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Anonymous wrote:NNAT 119 Cogat 132
Mclean pyramid / Center school / High SIS
GBRS unknown
In

So my child can be an example that the committe is not
focusing only on the nnat / cogat scores anymore?

It is actually an example of the NEW "fools in schools" program promoted by Fairfax county haycock level 4 aap is NOW gen-ed quality

My "fool's" scores were even lower and she is completely thriving in AAP and easily keeping up with all the "geniuses" in her class. If you don't like AAP and think it's like gen-ed there are plenty of private school stress factories that will take your money.

True,nNo wonder your kid is thriving, with the whole AAP program diluted with the admission of low scoring average kids. With a gen-ed level AAP class, the kid sure is a rock star. To prevent such nonsense, Mensa and Davidson's gifted programs don't even admit such low scoring kids to their gifted programs.

I'm not buying it. My kid's in AAP. Didn't score high at all for whatever reason. I know there are probably some kids in her class that did score very high on the tests - it's a large center. The class is super competitive with each other, and she is constantly coming home saying she had the best or second-best score on tests. They are all taking the same test - I asked. How does it work out that my stupid kid is beating out your genius? Sure, maybe the curriculum is watered down (whatever), but they are all taking the same test. Is your genius missing answers on purpose to make my child feel better about herself? I doubt it. Perhaps-ish those IQ tests don't mean much in the grand scheme of things.

Just curious how your DC knows she had the best or second-best scores on tests.

Kids talk and share scores. DS can tell us most of the scores in his class because his classmates are sharing their scores. we remind him that grades are not a competition and are private and he tells us that other kids compare how they are doing all the time. It drives me crazy.

And yes, he knows that his math score is normally one of the top scores in the class. He also knows that he finishes his work with enough time to do the extra activities and use the STEM stuff in the classroom for fun while he has friends who never get to do that because they are struggling to finish their work. Iknow this because his friends parents complain that their child is jealous of the kids who get to do the extra work when their kid is struggling to complete the required work.

Between parents and other kids it is not hard to know where my kid stands in the class.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT 119 Cogat 132
Mclean pyramid / Center school / High SIS
GBRS unknown
In

So my child can be an example that the committe is not
focusing only on the nnat / cogat scores anymore?

It is actually an example of the NEW "fools in schools" program promoted by Fairfax county haycock level 4 aap is NOW gen-ed quality

My "fool's" scores were even lower and she is completely thriving in AAP and easily keeping up with all the "geniuses" in her class. If you don't like AAP and think it's like gen-ed there are plenty of private school stress factories that will take your money.

True,nNo wonder your kid is thriving, with the whole AAP program diluted with the admission of low scoring average kids. With a gen-ed level AAP class, the kid sure is a rock star. To prevent such nonsense, Mensa and Davidson's gifted programs don't even admit such low scoring kids to their gifted programs.

I'm not buying it. My kid's in AAP. Didn't score high at all for whatever reason. I know there are probably some kids in her class that did score very high on the tests - it's a large center. The class is super competitive with each other, and she is constantly coming home saying she had the best or second-best score on tests. They are all taking the same test - I asked. How does it work out that my stupid kid is beating out your genius? Sure, maybe the curriculum is watered down (whatever), but they are all taking the same test. Is your genius missing answers on purpose to make my child feel better about herself? I doubt it. Perhaps-ish those IQ tests don't mean much in the grand scheme of things.

Just curious how your DC knows she had the best or second-best scores on tests.

I'm not entirely sure how she knows. When I ask her about a test she'll say "26 out of 26 and I was the only one" or "25 out of 26 and there were two others that got 25 out of 26." It's all computerized, so maybe the teacher shows a graph of the score distribution? It's also possible they share their scores - it's a competitive bunch of kids.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT 119 Cogat 132
Mclean pyramid / Center school / High SIS
GBRS unknown
In

So my child can be an example that the committe is not
focusing only on the nnat / cogat scores anymore?

It is actually an example of the NEW "fools in schools" program promoted by Fairfax county haycock level 4 aap is NOW gen-ed quality

My "fool's" scores were even lower and she is completely thriving in AAP and easily keeping up with all the "geniuses" in her class. If you don't like AAP and think it's like gen-ed there are plenty of private school stress factories that will take your money.

True,nNo wonder your kid is thriving, with the whole AAP program diluted with the admission of low scoring average kids. With a gen-ed level AAP class, the kid sure is a rock star. To prevent such nonsense, Mensa and Davidson's gifted programs don't even admit such low scoring kids to their gifted programs.

I'm not buying it. My kid's in AAP. Didn't score high at all for whatever reason. I know there are probably some kids in her class that did score very high on the tests - it's a large center. The class is super competitive with each other, and she is constantly coming home saying she had the best or second-best score on tests. They are all taking the same test - I asked. How does it work out that my stupid kid is beating out your genius? Sure, maybe the curriculum is watered down (whatever), but they are all taking the same test. Is your genius missing answers on purpose to make my child feel better about herself? I doubt it. Perhaps-ish those IQ tests don't mean much in the grand scheme of things.

Just curious how your DC knows she had the best or second-best scores on tests.

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Anonymous wrote:How do you know what the GBRS is? I saw people says 11. 13... etc but cannot find that number on my child's AAP package?

They are making up their own scores. You will see Consistently, frequently, occasionally, or rarely observed. It used to be that the GBRSs were scored as a 4,3,2,1. People are simply equating the CO with a 4, FO with a 3, OO as a 2, and RO as a 1.

The belief on this board seems to think that you need at least 1-2 COs and no OO or RO to have a real shot at AAP. 4 CO’s has lead to rejection while 3 COs and 1 FO or 2 COs and 2 FOs seem to be associated with acceptance.

Rarely/never observed is a relic from the past that they haven’t used in at least 3 years (likely more). It’s consistently, frequently, occasionally now. They also no longer assign points to the rating.

What an active thread who should be in, who should be out? feels like an episode from the survivor series
FWIW
NNAT 160
COGAT 154
GBRS 4 CO
McLean Pyramid
Result - IN

Anonymous wrote:How do you know what the GBRS is? I saw people says 11. 13... etc but cannot find that number on my child's AAP package?

They are making up their own scores. You will see Consistently, frequently, occasionally, or rarely observed. It used to be that the GBRSs were scored as a 4,3,2,1. People are simply equating the CO with a 4, FO with a 3, OO as a 2, and RO as a 1.

The belief on this board seems to think that you need at least 1-2 COs and no OO or RO to have a real shot at AAP. 4 CO’s has lead to rejection while 3 COs and 1 FO or 2 COs and 2 FOs seem to be associated with acceptance.

How do you know what the GBRS is? I saw people says 11. 13... etc but cannot find that number on my child's AAP package?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid scored a 112 on the WISC. Obviously we didn't submit it. He had done fine in AAP, in the lowest math group but the highest reading group. The curriculum just isn't that difficult.

Am I the only AAP parent who has no idea what “group” my kid is in within a classroom? Like how do you figure out this crap?

No, you’re not alone. Heck, I don’t even know if they’re grouped.

All of these AAP threads mostly leave me feeling like I must be a totally checked out parent.

Anonymous wrote:What is a good GBRS score? Below are my DC creds.

2nd grade
NNAT - 133 (98th percentile)
COGAT- Composit 132(98th percentile), Non verbal 123, Quant 138, Verbal 119
GBRS - 4 FO
For Areas of strength - Math AND Reading marked Y, currently level 2 AAP
The teacher left very positive comments throughout the GBRS, with no behavioral issues
Iready - 86+ percentile for reading and Math
School - Westgate
Results - Not in.

Any feedback is appreciated. Are these mediocre stats? not good enough for AAP level 4?

DC is bummed

The GBRSs are rarely written so that they are negative. DS had 3 CO and 1 FO. I could read the difference in the FO category from the CO but the comments were still mostly positive. The few negative comments in his FO section were balanced with a very positive statement. Like his writing was weak in a spcific area but he was advanced in his verbal explanation.

Your DC’s test scores point to a kid who will do well in Advanced Math but not necessarily ready for the LA component. The iReadys are very solid but not super strong. They are not used in determining who is in accepted into AAP so they would not have been seen by the committee but they point to a kid who is smart but more on the cusp then a shoo in.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid scored a 112 on the WISC. Obviously we didn't submit it. He had done fine in AAP, in the lowest math group but the highest reading group. The curriculum just isn't that difficult.

Am I the only AAP parent who has no idea what “group” my kid is in within a classroom? Like how do you figure out this crap?

Some teachers tell parents at conferences. Some kids spend a lot of time working with a group without a Teacher and tell parents. The implication is that those kids need less help then other kids.

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Anonymous wrote:What is a good GBRS score? Below are my DC creds.

2nd grade
NNAT - 133 (98th percentile)
COGAT- Composit 132(98th percentile), Non verbal 123, Quant 138, Verbal 119
GBRS - 4 FO
For Areas of strength - Math AND Reading marked Y, currently level 2 AAP
The teacher left very positive comments throughout the GBRS, with no behavioral issues
Iready - 86+ percentile for reading and Math
School - Westgate
Results - Not in.

Any feedback is appreciated. Are these mediocre stats? not good enough for AAP level 4?

DC is bummed

The best GBRS is 4 Consistent Observed. I think you need at least 2 COs to really be considered for AAP. 4 Frequently Observed is not really what they would consider.

That’s not a hard rule — for example, my kid got in w 3F 1C. GBRS is such absolute bs. I can’t believe FCPS weighs it so heavily in the criteria for admittance.

Same here. 1C, 3F. 136 COGAT and NNAT, strong emphasis on the quantitative section.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid scored a 112 on the WISC. Obviously we didn't submit it. He had done fine in AAP, in the lowest math group but the highest reading group. The curriculum just isn't that difficult.

Am I the only AAP parent who has no idea what “group” my kid is in within a classroom? Like how do you figure out this crap?

Our center school doesn't have groups in AAP. Such a relief.

Ours doesn't either.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid scored a 112 on the WISC. Obviously we didn't submit it. He had done fine in AAP, in the lowest math group but the highest reading group. The curriculum just isn't that difficult.

Am I the only AAP parent who has no idea what “group” my kid is in within a classroom? Like how do you figure out this crap?

Our center school doesn't have groups in AAP. Such a relief.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT 119 Cogat 132
Mclean pyramid / Center school / High SIS
GBRS unknown
In

So my child can be an example that the committe is not
focusing only on the nnat / cogat scores anymore?

It is actually an example of the NEW "fools in schools" program promoted by Fairfax county haycock level 4 aap is NOW gen-ed quality

My "fool's" scores were even lower and she is completely thriving in AAP and easily keeping up with all the "geniuses" in her class. If you don't like AAP and think it's like gen-ed there are plenty of private school stress factories that will take your money.

Same here. People are just bitter.

Anonymous wrote:My kid scored a 112 on the WISC. Obviously we didn't submit it. He had done fine in AAP, in the lowest math group but the highest reading group. The curriculum just isn't that difficult.

Am I the only AAP parent who has no idea what “group” my kid is in within a classroom? Like how do you figure out this crap?