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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury is a funny one because I'd say it is underrated now at 11 but was overrated by USNWR for so long in the 4-6 range.

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+3? Middlebury was way over ranked for a while.

-4 Only in the eyes of Bucknell fans

+5 or more people who aren’t Middlebury boosters. It’s not that great of a school.

Students do learn to write there, however.

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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury is a funny one because I'd say it is underrated now at 11 but was overrated by USNWR for so long in the 4-6 range.

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Posts like this make me laugh. Like there's a *massive* gap between 4 and 11.

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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury is a funny one because I'd say it is underrated now at 11 but was overrated by USNWR for so long in the 4-6 range.

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+3? Middlebury was way over ranked for a while.

-4 Only in the eyes of Bucknell fans

+5 or more people who aren’t Middlebury boosters. It’s not that great of a school.

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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury is a funny one because I'd say it is underrated now at 11 but was overrated by USNWR for so long in the 4-6 range.

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-4 Only in the eyes of Bucknell fans

holy cross is underrated imo, haven’t heard heard a bad word about it

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Anonymous wrote:Higher education should allow freedom of speech, respect differing opinions, and encourage intellectual discourse presented from a variety of perspectives. Ultra-liberal, leftist schools are intolerant of opposing thought.

And schools that fail to promote this type of environment will suffer in the marketplace. How many non-LGBTQ males who get 1500 on their SATs would choose Vassar over all their other options? Oberlin is way off the charts now, and Wesleyan has plunged as well. Haverford has declined, now tied with Richmond (which has a conservative reputation). Reed is nowhere to be found. W&L is thriving. Southern schools in general are thriving. Who wants to go to school with a bunch of angry single minded activists who can't even have a conversation but can only call you names?

Whoah you are so clearly in a suburban bubble. Vassar and oberlin are very popular with the boys in our Brooklyn crowd

That is exactly my point. They are ONLY popular with the Brooklyn crowd.

A quarter of Vassar comes from NY - so it's even a larger percentage of the domestic student population. It basically just draws from 5 states where wokeness prevails.
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/vassar-college/student-life/diversity/chart-geographic-diversity.html

Oberlin is very popular in the DMV, NYC metro, Boston and CA, among other places. Tons of kids from the more liberal UMC suburbs in places like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury is a funny one because I'd say it is underrated now at 11 but was overrated by USNWR for so long in the 4-6 range.

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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury is a funny one because I'd say it is underrated now at 11 but was overrated by USNWR for so long in the 4-6 range.

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Anonymous wrote:Always funny to see conservatives freak out about Oberlin, Wesleyan, Vassar, and Brown because of reputations forged from the 60s to 80s when the reality is that today they are very middle of the road institutions

LOL if you think that Oberlin is a "very middle of the road institution". More like a narrow-minded nuthouse, than a middle of the road institution.

Haverford is over-rated as is Colorado College, but for different reasons.

The problem that many see with schools like Oberlin, Wesleyan, Vassar, & Haverford is that they are all too narrow-minded and shut-down opposing or different opinions. Too focused on political correctness.

Anytime anyone claims Oberlin is middle of the road, the bakery lawsuit needs to be brought up

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/08/us/oberlin-bakery-lawsuit.html

I know someone on here brings this case up up every time Oberlin is mentioned. As in, they seem to have a keyword search set and immediately jumps in with “bakery case!” Within 15 minutes of the school name being posted. But 2015 called. They want their “scandal” back. Especially since none of the faculty, Admin or students involved are still with the school. Are you still going to be trotting this out in 2034 PP?

This was primarily a contract dispute from almost a decade ago. Pull 5 random colleges out of a hat and at least 3 will have had a much worse “scandal” this decade. I hope you also stalk and constantly mention all the schools like Michigan State and Ohio State that have faculty and staff sexually assaulting students? Or UCs with paid out an incredible amount of money for SA by a member of the medical faculty in 2022? Or Brown, Dartmouth, Wesleyan, UVA and UConn, which are the colleges with the highest number of sexual assaults reported in the last few years?

https://www.koffellaw.com/blog/list-of-colleges-with-the-most-rape-incident-rep/

Do you immediately jump in when the many colleges with violent protests this year are mentioned? Heck, my in state VA college kid had a much nastier time on campus both post-Dobbs and with the Isreal-Palestine protests than my Oberlin kid did. Protests at Oberlin were peaceful, careful to not target Jewish students, stayed within the first Amendment zone, and were coordinated with the administration. And Graduation went off without a hitch. Not so much a Columbia— do you jump on with that every time Columbia is mentioned?

Or, we could talk about UNC giving African American studies degrees to illiterate athletes? Or WFU student harassment of their Muslim Chaplin (Klassy). Or the Varsity Blues colleges. You immediately jump in when these colleges are mentioned, right? Because, unlike a contract dispute for the dining hall, those lawsuits/issues(and in some cases DOJ involvement) touch on student safety and the quality of the education.

So do you bring up every lawsuit against every college in the last decade? Do you really believe a dining hall contact dispute harms the students more than SA (by students and faculty) fraud in admissions, fraud in issuing degrees, serious harassment of minority religious groups, etc? Or do you just Tucker Carlson Oberlin only and ignore the much worse things happening at other colleges? Because I’d rather send my kid to a college that has a decade old contract dispute about what pastries to serve in the dining hall that they settled (and have gotten rid of all the adults involved, and the students involved have long graduated) than send them to a college that currently ranks at the top 1% for sexual assault, or was involved in Varsity Blues, or has a Larry Nasser or Jim Jordan or pedo gynecologist on staff and ignores their victims, or gives worthless degrees, or has violent protests targeting ethnic/ religious minorities, or…

You’ve been doing this for 9 years. Oberlin is mentioned. You race to post. Time to let it go. Or acknowledge it’s pretty small stuff compared to what has happened in the last few years (and in some cases is still happening) on other college campuses. Otherwise, you’re a hypocrite. (Which is what one expects of MAGA).

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Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth College is the most under-ranked LAC. This is due to playing in the Big league among National Universities.

Dartmouth is probably on the US News National Universities list because its Carnegie Classification is R1. But you are right that it is more like a LAC than most of the other US News National Universities.

In what ways? It’s very much a university.

Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth College is the most under-ranked LAC. This is due to playing in the Big league among National Universities.

Dartmouth is probably on the US News National Universities list because its Carnegie Classification is R1. But you are right that it is more like a LAC than most of the other US News National Universities.

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Anonymous wrote:Only on USNews is Princeton the number 1 university. It’s all BS factors created to surprise people. Williams isn’t even the most sought after lac, but we’re expected to just agree that it’s #1 and has been for decades?

Which is the most sought after LAC if not Williams?

Pomona by yield and acceptance rate for a while. It’s not even the most applied to LAC.

Ranking the LACs in order doesn't make sense because people value different things.

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Anonymous wrote:underrated: Carleton, Macalester, Reed

I have a 3 word response to your list of 3 schools: Location, location, location.

Yes, unfortunately. I kept two of these on the list in case DC wasn't admitted ED to first choice, but location significantly affected their ranking. In terms of great school in a great location, I think Haverford still tends to be under the radar.

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Anonymous wrote:overrated - Colby and Richmond; to a lesser extent, Bowdoin

underrated - Haverford, Macalester and Wesleyan

Totally disagree, Bowdoin is underrated. It is such a great college environment.

Overrated. It’s campus is unremarkable and the academic offerings are subpar. It should be ranked lower than the top 10

Based on what, exactly?