Anonymous
03/09/2023 16:36
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Bad statement, that is true.
But lets not forget Biden's atrocious statements, "An incursion is not an invasion," and his offer to "give President Zelenskyy a ride" out of Ukraine / encouraging him to cowardly flee and abandon Ukraine.
NATO / the EU has fortunately made him heel to their plan, and begrudgingly comply with what needs to be done: the defeat of Russia (and hopefully its collapse).
That Biden phrasing was because Russia already incursing due to Crimea and Donetsk.
Nobody brought Zelensky to heel. It's more the other way round. By staying and by Ukraine fighting back they proved their willingness and capacity to fight for their own country. If they hadn't done that then they wouldn't have gotten support.
Sorry; poor phrasing: it was Biden who was brought to heel, and made to understand the Russian threat to all of Europe.
Russia has repeatedly said they will take back all of Ukraine, and they have no intention of stopping there. Russia’s main threats involve re-invading the Baltics and Poland.
Logic fail.
Russia will fail.
Anonymous
03/09/2023 14:16
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Bad statement, that is true.
But lets not forget Biden's atrocious statements, "An incursion is not an invasion," and his offer to "give President Zelenskyy a ride" out of Ukraine / encouraging him to cowardly flee and abandon Ukraine.
NATO / the EU has fortunately made him heel to their plan, and begrudgingly comply with what needs to be done: the defeat of Russia (and hopefully its collapse).
That Biden phrasing was because Russia already incursing due to Crimea and Donetsk.
Nobody brought Zelensky to heel. It's more the other way round. By staying and by Ukraine fighting back they proved their willingness and capacity to fight for their own country. If they hadn't done that then they wouldn't have gotten support.
Sorry; poor phrasing: it was Biden who was brought to heel, and made to understand the Russian threat to all of Europe.
Russia has repeatedly said they will take back all of Ukraine, and they have no intention of stopping there. Russia’s main threats involve re-invading the Baltics and Poland.
Logic fail.
Anonymous
03/09/2023 11:31
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Bad statement, that is true.
But lets not forget Biden's atrocious statements, "An incursion is not an invasion," and his offer to "give President Zelenskyy a ride" out of Ukraine / encouraging him to cowardly flee and abandon Ukraine.
NATO / the EU has fortunately made him heel to their plan, and begrudgingly comply with what needs to be done: the defeat of Russia (and hopefully its collapse).
That Biden phrasing was because Russia already incursing due to Crimea and Donetsk.
Nobody brought Zelensky to heel. It's more the other way round. By staying and by Ukraine fighting back they proved their willingness and capacity to fight for their own country. If they hadn't done that then they wouldn't have gotten support.
Sorry; poor phrasing: it was Biden who was brought to heel, and made to understand the Russian threat to all of Europe.
Russia has repeatedly said they will take back all of Ukraine, and they have no intention of stopping there. Russia’s main threats involve re-invading the Baltics and Poland.
Anonymous
03/09/2023 10:51
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:
Bad statement, that is true.
But lets not forget Biden's atrocious statements, "An incursion is not an invasion," and his offer to "give President Zelenskyy a ride" out of Ukraine / encouraging him to cowardly flee and abandon Ukraine.
NATO / the EU has fortunately made him heel to their plan, and begrudgingly comply with what needs to be done: the defeat of Russia (and hopefully its collapse).
That Biden phrasing was because Russia already incursing due to Crimea and Donetsk.
Nobody brought Zelensky to heel. It's more the other way round. By staying and by Ukraine fighting back they proved their willingness and capacity to fight for their own country. If they hadn't done that then they wouldn't have gotten support.
Anonymous
03/09/2023 08:42
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Bad statement, that is true.
But lets not forget Biden's atrocious statements, "An incursion is not an invasion," and his offer to "give President Zelenskyy a ride" out of Ukraine / encouraging him to cowardly flee and abandon Ukraine.
NATO / the EU has fortunately made him heel to their plan, and begrudgingly comply with what needs to be done: the defeat of Russia (and hopefully its collapse).
Anonymous
Anonymous
03/08/2023 12:35
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our little Russian troll buddy (apparently a really OLD troll) is so amusing! He even trotted out the old “mouse in your pocket” quip. So funny! (not)
But it doesn’t matter. The War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague still awaits Vlad and all his vile henchmen. Everyone k owe this. It is obvious to the whole world.
I can't help it if you make me giggle with your royal "we", attaching yourself to things and processes that had nothing to do with you.
Weak insult. "We" expect better. Try harder.
Why would I? You're giving me enough material as DCUM's resident megalomaniac as it is.
Better but still weak.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 11:58
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our little Russian troll buddy (apparently a really OLD troll) is so amusing! He even trotted out the old “mouse in your pocket” quip. So funny! (not)
But it doesn’t matter. The War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague still awaits Vlad and all his vile henchmen. Everyone k owe this. It is obvious to the whole world.
I can't help it if you make me giggle with your royal "we", attaching yourself to things and processes that had nothing to do with you.
Weak insult. "We" expect better. Try harder.
Why would I? You're giving me enough material as DCUM's resident megalomaniac as it is.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 09:27
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our little Russian troll buddy (apparently a really OLD troll) is so amusing! He even trotted out the old “mouse in your pocket” quip. So funny! (not)
But it doesn’t matter. The War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague still awaits Vlad and all his vile henchmen. Everyone k owe this. It is obvious to the whole world.
I can't help it if you make me giggle with your royal "we", attaching yourself to things and processes that had nothing to do with you.
Weak insult. "We" expect better. Try harder.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 08:45
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Our little Russian troll buddy (apparently a really OLD troll) is so amusing! He even trotted out the old “mouse in your pocket” quip. So funny! (not)
But it doesn’t matter. The War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague still awaits Vlad and all his vile henchmen. Everyone k owe this. It is obvious to the whole world.
I can't help it if you make me giggle with your royal "we", attaching yourself to things and processes that had nothing to do with you.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 08:30
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Our little Russian troll buddy (apparently a really OLD troll) is so amusing! He even trotted out the old “mouse in your pocket” quip. So funny! (not)
But it doesn’t matter. The War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague still awaits Vlad and all his vile henchmen. Everyone k owe this. It is obvious to the whole world.
LOL after your best friends Bibi and George W.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 08:29
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Germany is wanting this war to end…..
European support is waning, so is US popular support.
Time to end this miserable war.
Look, you are just some Russian troll, or possibly brainwashed by that compromised idiot Tucker Carlson.
Either way, your point is simply wrong.
The “industry” of fighting aggression, war crimes, genocide is actually that. It’s an industry. It is built into the educational DNA of any serious history, foreign relations, law, or philosophy graduate from a US or European school since 1980.
These people rule the EU and to a (sadly) smaller extent some of our foreign policy establishment here in the US. Beyond that, the EU has built into its governmental structure the requirement to pursue war crimes - and it’s now engaged in exactly that. The EU can simply NOT step away from pursuing war crimes and the overall aggression in Ukraine, without violating fundamental laws, or losing all moral credibility. Won’t happen.
Whether he knew it or not, Putin did “burn his ships,” just like Cortez. There is no going back to the status quo ante bellum.
Everything Russia has done since 2/22 is a massive “trigger” to almost the entire western establishment. Every moral, historical, trip-wire and code-word of “never again” has been triggered. The west is “all-in” in the war to defeat Russia, and there is no going back, abandoning Ukraine, letting war crimes slide or cutting a high-level deal to let crimes go unpunished, in exchange for any degree of peace.
This all may sound a bit “pie in the sky” dreaming, but it’s not. It is the current reality. Look at European polls. Look at the rhetoric of European leaders and foreign ministers. A lot of these nuances never get through our watered-down media , especially if you do not go out and actively look for it, but it’s there. I know the research of legitimate news sources will back me up on this. There is not as much political “wiggle room” to end this war as people want to believe, or that Trump foolishly thinks.
There are things that are politically possible, and things that are not. Going backward to the world of 1/22 is not possible. That bridge was burned, irrevocably.
As to the situation on the ground:
- we have now disclosed we have already trained Ukrainian pilots on our old (really old) F-16 fighter jets. We own tens of thousands of these. And plenty of extra munitions to arm them for decades.
Biden stated he is NOT giving F16s to Ukraine.
Not yet, anyway.
Your move, Vlad. But never forget: The Hague awaits you.
You say this but post Hitler, the EU or the “west” has never prosecuted crimes against humanity committed by “the west”. Iraq? Libya? Yemen? Afghanistan? LatAm? The West has been massively hypocritical in calling out crimes committed by some people but never by others. So let’s not talk nonsense about the systemic impulse to prosecute crimes against humanity because it does not exist, never did.
You say that as if your line-up of "victims" weren't absolutely brutal terror regimes and dictatorships responsible for killing far more of their own people than the US ever did.
Go away with your half-baked whataboutism. You are seriously missing the mark.
Right….because life for Iraqis, afghans and Libyans are SOOO much better post American invasion. Really what you’re saying is don’t count brown Muslim victims, they are ok to kill.
Those "brown victims" died at the hands of their fellow countrymen. Iraqis, Libyans, Afghans - they were handed an opportunity to choose a new future and a new path forward for themselves. They instead chose violence and killing each other. 🤷♂️
Did they ask for an opportunity to choose a new future? Did they ask for a new path?
I mean, I can come and blow up your flawed but perfectly stable house and then blame you for not cleaning up the wreckage to my satisfaction.
You are a hypocrite and a bigot.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 07:09
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:While I understand Ukraine’s wishful thinking, we should all remember that nothing is a given just ye except the fact that the Russian economy will be extremely weakened in the next 1-2 years, maybe more if they persist on carrying on this pointless escapade.
A range of outcomes is possible from a universally recognized defeat for Russia to freezing the status quo indefinitely. Any sensible person understands that
“Recent data has demonstrated that the impact of international sanctions on Russia was not nearly as dramatic as the 10% contraction that many economists were foreseeing in 2022. The Russian economy contracted by a relatively mild 2.1% in 2022, and the International Monetary Fund has predicted that it will post small, but positive growth of 0.3% in 2023.
Russia began the war with a financial system braced for sanctions. The Russian central bank used currency controls and sharp interest rate hikes to stabilize the ruble early in the first year of the war. At the same time, Russian businesses began exploring deeper ties with countries such as China, India and Turkey, which allowed trade in goods and commodities to largely recover from initial dips at the outset of the conflict.
The biggest reason for Russia's surprising resilience, however, was that it was allowed to continue selling petroleum products, far and away its largest source of pre-war revenue, on global markets. Prices were elevated at the outset of the fighting, and a slow move by many Western nations away from Russian oil and gas gave Russian firms time to broaden their sales to countries such as India and China.“ —VOA
Anonymous
03/08/2023 01:53
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
A Ukrainian victory is a victory for the west. Russian aggression against Ukraine is aggression against the West and we should all desire its defeat.
How much $ do we dump into the middle east - Israel, KSA, etc - countries that only care about us insofar as we support them - but are otherwise on the spectrum of hostile to indifferent to our main issues. Iran is a regional issue that our middle east 'friends' are well equipped to defend on their own.
Let's focus our energies on protecting the west and the countries that prioritize the issues most essential to our western allies.
How much $ do we dump into the middle east - Israel, KSA, etc - countries that only care about us insofar as we support them - but are otherwise on the spectrum of hostile to indifferent to our main issues. Iran is a regional issue that our middle east 'friends' are well equipped to defend on their own.
Let's focus our energies on protecting the west and the countries that prioritize the issues most essential to our western allies.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 01:42
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
While I understand Ukraine’s wishful thinking, we should all remember that nothing is a given just ye except the fact that the Russian economy will be extremely weakened in the next 1-2 years, maybe more if they persist on carrying on this pointless escapade.
A range of outcomes is possible from a universally recognized defeat for Russia to freezing the status quo indefinitely. Any sensible person understands that
A range of outcomes is possible from a universally recognized defeat for Russia to freezing the status quo indefinitely. Any sensible person understands that