Anonymous wrote:There was a thread just recently complaining how that area is going downhill..

Thank Metro for that.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

Because they're afraid?

Or because they had just tried to rob a store at Tysons in the middle of operating hours with plenty of patrons and witnesses present and he knew it was a dangerous, violent crime for which eh would get jail time?
This guy was no saint, and his presence in society will not be missed. I dare say that we are safer for it.

He wasn't "trying to rob a store". He shoplifted sunglasses. Shoplifting is not a dangerous violent crime.

It is when it is aggravated. he could've purchased the item. Or not stolen it. Or gotten a job? Jesus, there are 100000 other options he could've tried. But he didn't because he opted for the criminal route.
Sorry, I cannot feel sorry for criminals. There are so many more decent humans worthy of sympathy. This guy was not one of them.

So you are in favor of anyone who shoplift being immediately killed by police right?

You guys make weird jumps. This guy is a known criminal. He tried to evade arrest and escape police. He was shot in the process. If he had cooperated, he would not be dead. He should've done that. But, he made his choices so I cannot feel sorry for him.

You PPs need to learn the concept of consequences for one's actions. Things didn't happen to him, he made his choices. And he paid for it. Oh, well.

For the 100th time, the consequences for shoplifting and running away from cops should not be death.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

Because they're afraid?

Or because they had just tried to rob a store at Tysons in the middle of operating hours with plenty of patrons and witnesses present and he knew it was a dangerous, violent crime for which eh would get jail time?
This guy was no saint, and his presence in society will not be missed. I dare say that we are safer for it.

He wasn't "trying to rob a store". He shoplifted sunglasses. Shoplifting is not a dangerous violent crime.

It is when it is aggravated. he could've purchased the item. Or not stolen it. Or gotten a job? Jesus, there are 100000 other options he could've tried. But he didn't because he opted for the criminal route.
Sorry, I cannot feel sorry for criminals. There are so many more decent humans worthy of sympathy. This guy was not one of them.

So you are in favor of anyone who shoplift being immediately killed by police right?

You guys make weird jumps. This guy is a known criminal. He tried to evade arrest and escape police. He was shot in the process. If he had cooperated, he would not be dead. He should've done that. But, he made his choices so I cannot feel sorry for him.

You PPs need to learn the concept of consequences for one's actions. Things didn't happen to him, he made his choices. And he paid for it. Oh, well.

Not true at this point. Cops didn't know who he was or his past when they killed him. We still don't know what is criminal history is at this point. Police is just trying to bet on the probability that he has a criminal past. But nothing has been released. The second bolded part is not true for black men.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

Because they're afraid?

Or because they had just tried to rob a store at Tysons in the middle of operating hours with plenty of patrons and witnesses present and he knew it was a dangerous, violent crime for which eh would get jail time?
This guy was no saint, and his presence in society will not be missed. I dare say that we are safer for it.

He wasn't "trying to rob a store". He shoplifted sunglasses. Shoplifting is not a dangerous violent crime.

It is when it is aggravated. he could've purchased the item. Or not stolen it. Or gotten a job? Jesus, there are 100000 other options he could've tried. But he didn't because he opted for the criminal route.
Sorry, I cannot feel sorry for criminals. There are so many more decent humans worthy of sympathy. This guy was not one of them.

So you are in favor of anyone who shoplift being immediately killed by police right?

You guys make weird jumps. This guy is a known criminal. He tried to evade arrest and escape police. He was shot in the process. If he had cooperated, he would not be dead. He should've done that. But, he made his choices so I cannot feel sorry for him.

You PPs need to learn the concept of consequences for one's actions. Things didn't happen to him, he made his choices. And he paid for it. Oh, well.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

Because they're afraid?

Or because they had just tried to rob a store at Tysons in the middle of operating hours with plenty of patrons and witnesses present and he knew it was a dangerous, violent crime for which eh would get jail time?
This guy was no saint, and his presence in society will not be missed. I dare say that we are safer for it.

He wasn't "trying to rob a store". He shoplifted sunglasses. Shoplifting is not a dangerous violent crime.

It is when it is aggravated. he could've purchased the item. Or not stolen it. Or gotten a job? Jesus, there are 100000 other options he could've tried. But he didn't because he opted for the criminal route.
Sorry, I cannot feel sorry for criminals. There are so many more decent humans worthy of sympathy. This guy was not one of them.

Nobody think stealing is okay. And nobody said you have to feel sorry for a criminal. We are just saying that stealing from a store/shoplifting is not a crime punishable by death. Where's your outrage over white collar criminals like Bernie Madoff. He was estimated to have stolen $65 billion dollars. But somehow that doesn't whip up your law-and-order outrage as much as a sunglass thief. Ask yourself why.

Sorry, how do you know that I am not outraged over Madoff? or Epstein? I did not mourn their passing. We are better off without them and society significantly safer without the likes of Epstein, who should've gotten the death penalty (but that was taken care of). That was not the topic of this thread, though, so why would it have come up?
that's an incredibly strange leap, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

Because they're afraid?

Or because they had just tried to rob a store at Tysons in the middle of operating hours with plenty of patrons and witnesses present and he knew it was a dangerous, violent crime for which eh would get jail time?
This guy was no saint, and his presence in society will not be missed. I dare say that we are safer for it.

He wasn't "trying to rob a store". He shoplifted sunglasses. Shoplifting is not a dangerous violent crime.

It is when it is aggravated. he could've purchased the item. Or not stolen it. Or gotten a job? Jesus, there are 100000 other options he could've tried. But he didn't because he opted for the criminal route.
Sorry, I cannot feel sorry for criminals. There are so many more decent humans worthy of sympathy. This guy was not one of them.

Aggravated shoplifting? Really? Come on. I am not saying you need empathy, but damn, try some common sense and logic. Shoplifiting is not violent and it is not punishable by death. Hell, most of the time, you don't even go to jail.

Of course there are a billion options, but kids stealing gum from stores, adults stealing sunglasses, and people lifting beer from liquor stores in their coats are not violent.

This dude RAN. He was not assaulting the police or anyone else.

Can you argue in the world we actually live in, not in your dream world of ZERO TOLERANCE ALL CRIMES PUNISHABLE BY DEATH fantasyland?

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Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

Because they're afraid?

Or because they had just tried to rob a store at Tysons in the middle of operating hours with plenty of patrons and witnesses present and he knew it was a dangerous, violent crime for which eh would get jail time?
This guy was no saint, and his presence in society will not be missed. I dare say that we are safer for it.

He wasn't "trying to rob a store". He shoplifted sunglasses. Shoplifting is not a dangerous violent crime.

It is when it is aggravated. he could've purchased the item. Or not stolen it. Or gotten a job? Jesus, there are 100000 other options he could've tried. But he didn't because he opted for the criminal route.
Sorry, I cannot feel sorry for criminals. There are so many more decent humans worthy of sympathy. This guy was not one of them.

So you are in favor of anyone who shoplift being immediately killed by police right?

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Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

Because they're afraid?

Or because they had just tried to rob a store at Tysons in the middle of operating hours with plenty of patrons and witnesses present and he knew it was a dangerous, violent crime for which eh would get jail time?
This guy was no saint, and his presence in society will not be missed. I dare say that we are safer for it.

He wasn't "trying to rob a store". He shoplifted sunglasses. Shoplifting is not a dangerous violent crime.

It is when it is aggravated. he could've purchased the item. Or not stolen it. Or gotten a job? Jesus, there are 100000 other options he could've tried. But he didn't because he opted for the criminal route.
Sorry, I cannot feel sorry for criminals. There are so many more decent humans worthy of sympathy. This guy was not one of them.

You're not one of them.

I've never robbed anyone. Nor have I committed a crime. I actually work in asylum, so I cannot feel sorry for this guy. There are thousands of deserving humans who have gone through crap, and don't harm others. So I don't have enough space to care about people like this guy

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Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

Because they're afraid?

Or because they had just tried to rob a store at Tysons in the middle of operating hours with plenty of patrons and witnesses present and he knew it was a dangerous, violent crime for which eh would get jail time?
This guy was no saint, and his presence in society will not be missed. I dare say that we are safer for it.

He wasn't "trying to rob a store". He shoplifted sunglasses. Shoplifting is not a dangerous violent crime.

It is when it is aggravated. he could've purchased the item. Or not stolen it. Or gotten a job? Jesus, there are 100000 other options he could've tried. But he didn't because he opted for the criminal route.
Sorry, I cannot feel sorry for criminals. There are so many more decent humans worthy of sympathy. This guy was not one of them.

There are still jobs available everywhere. There are some jobs that give same day pay.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

Because they're afraid?

Or because they had just tried to rob a store at Tysons in the middle of operating hours with plenty of patrons and witnesses present and he knew it was a dangerous, violent crime for which eh would get jail time?
This guy was no saint, and his presence in society will not be missed. I dare say that we are safer for it.

He wasn't "trying to rob a store". He shoplifted sunglasses. Shoplifting is not a dangerous violent crime.

It is when it is aggravated. he could've purchased the item. Or not stolen it. Or gotten a job? Jesus, there are 100000 other options he could've tried. But he didn't because he opted for the criminal route.
Sorry, I cannot feel sorry for criminals. There are so many more decent humans worthy of sympathy. This guy was not one of them.

You're not one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

Because they're afraid?

Or because they had just tried to rob a store at Tysons in the middle of operating hours with plenty of patrons and witnesses present and he knew it was a dangerous, violent crime for which eh would get jail time?
This guy was no saint, and his presence in society will not be missed. I dare say that we are safer for it.

He wasn't "trying to rob a store". He shoplifted sunglasses. Shoplifting is not a dangerous violent crime.

It is when it is aggravated. he could've purchased the item. Or not stolen it. Or gotten a job? Jesus, there are 100000 other options he could've tried. But he didn't because he opted for the criminal route.
Sorry, I cannot feel sorry for criminals. There are so many more decent humans worthy of sympathy. This guy was not one of them.

Nobody think stealing is okay. And nobody said you have to feel sorry for a criminal. We are just saying that stealing from a store/shoplifting is not a crime punishable by death. Where's your outrage over white collar criminals like Bernie Madoff. He was estimated to have stolen $65 billion dollars. But somehow that doesn't whip up your law-and-order outrage as much as a sunglass thief. Ask yourself why.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

Because they're afraid?

Or because they had just tried to rob a store at Tysons in the middle of operating hours with plenty of patrons and witnesses present and he knew it was a dangerous, violent crime for which eh would get jail time?
This guy was no saint, and his presence in society will not be missed. I dare say that we are safer for it.

He wasn't "trying to rob a store". He shoplifted sunglasses. Shoplifting is not a dangerous violent crime.

It is when it is aggravated. he could've purchased the item. Or not stolen it. Or gotten a job? Jesus, there are 100000 other options he could've tried. But he didn't because he opted for the criminal route.
Sorry, I cannot feel sorry for criminals. There are so many more decent humans worthy of sympathy. This guy was not one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

Because they're afraid?

Or because they had just tried to rob a store at Tysons in the middle of operating hours with plenty of patrons and witnesses present and he knew it was a dangerous, violent crime for which eh would get jail time?
This guy was no saint, and his presence in society will not be missed. I dare say that we are safer for it.

He wasn't "trying to rob a store". He shoplifted sunglasses. Shoplifting is not a dangerous violent crime.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

Because they're afraid?

Or because they had just tried to rob a store at Tysons in the middle of operating hours with plenty of patrons and witnesses present and he knew it was a dangerous, violent crime for which eh would get jail time?
This guy was no saint, and his presence in society will not be missed. I dare say that we are safer for it.

Maybe the police thought he pointed or shot a gun at them. Body cam should be released soon, maybe in a week. Hopefully it's not poor quality due to the dark in the wooded area.