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Anonymous wrote:ENM/poly people are into the whole thing to cover up insecurities, low self-esteem, trauma, etc

Nope. It takes a lot of maturity and self understanding to navigate non-monogamy responsibly.

Give me a break. Some are just doing it for college admissions and job preferences.

I think you don’t know anyone in the poly/ ECM community.

My life and relationships are already complicated enough.

That’s fine, but then don’t opine.

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Anonymous wrote:ENM/poly people are into the whole thing to cover up insecurities, low self-esteem, trauma, etc

Nope. It takes a lot of maturity and self understanding to navigate non-monogamy responsibly.

Give me a break. Some are just doing it for college admissions and job preferences.

I think you don’t know anyone in the poly/ ECM community.

My life and relationships are already complicated enough.

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Anonymous wrote:ENM/poly people are into the whole thing to cover up insecurities, low self-esteem, trauma, etc

Nope. It takes a lot of maturity and self understanding to navigate non-monogamy responsibly.

Give me a break. Some are just doing it for college admissions and job preferences.

I think you don’t know anyone in the poly/ ECM community.

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Anonymous wrote:Too many men and women make too many excuses for being overweight, obese, and out of shape. Fat acceptance is a bizarre Orwellian concept that characterizes the dystopian nature of many womens attitudes towards their obligation to remain fit sexy and attractive for their partners.

Being fat lazy and out of shape makes you a terrible marital partner.

That society thinks 50 year old woman need to look like they did in their 20s. Women used to be able to age and grandmothers weren’t sexy. Now women are made to feel like failures if they don’t weigh the same at 50 as they did at 25. Life was so much better when it was socially acceptable to age and be matronly.

+1 We were watching The Godfather recently and it was striking how all of the older mothers were portly, enjoying pasta, and wearing dresses with graying hair. It is so sad that we now require women look hot (!) and sexually available into their 60s and beyond. Americans are oversexed.

Totally. Also, who is horny when they have grown kids and are menopausal? Having sex all the time is for young and fertile woman. I enjoy it still in my mid 40s, but I don't care about it like I did from about age 16-30. That is just biology... So tired of hearing about how we need to look hot and feel aroused all the time. Um--my body cannot make a baby so it doesn't tell me to have sex a lot. (I actually am pretty hot but these societal pressures are ridiculous and watching women get all these procedures that make them look like old women trying to look young is just plain sad).

Lady I’m 52 and still fertile (or at least still menstruating) and think about sex constantly.

Okay, so you’re not menopausal? Doesn’t apply to you. Don’t take everything as a personal threat.

Not every menopausal woman hates sex.

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Anonymous wrote:ENM/poly people are into the whole thing to cover up insecurities, low self-esteem, trauma, etc

Nope. It takes a lot of maturity and self understanding to navigate non-monogamy responsibly.

Give me a break. Some are just doing it for college admissions and job preferences.

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Anonymous wrote:Too many men and women make too many excuses for being overweight, obese, and out of shape. Fat acceptance is a bizarre Orwellian concept that characterizes the dystopian nature of many womens attitudes towards their obligation to remain fit sexy and attractive for their partners.

Being fat lazy and out of shape makes you a terrible marital partner.

That society thinks 50 year old woman need to look like they did in their 20s. Women used to be able to age and grandmothers weren’t sexy. Now women are made to feel like failures if they don’t weigh the same at 50 as they did at 25. Life was so much better when it was socially acceptable to age and be matronly.

+1 We were watching The Godfather recently and it was striking how all of the older mothers were portly, enjoying pasta, and wearing dresses with graying hair. It is so sad that we now require women look hot (!) and sexually available into their 60s and beyond. Americans are oversexed.

Totally. Also, who is horny when they have grown kids and are menopausal? Having sex all the time is for young and fertile woman. I enjoy it still in my mid 40s, but I don't care about it like I did from about age 16-30. That is just biology... So tired of hearing about how we need to look hot and feel aroused all the time. Um--my body cannot make a baby so it doesn't tell me to have sex a lot. (I actually am pretty hot but these societal pressures are ridiculous and watching women get all these procedures that make them look like old women trying to look young is just plain sad).

Lady I’m 52 and still fertile (or at least still menstruating) and think about sex constantly.

Okay, so you’re not menopausal? Doesn’t apply to you. Don’t take everything as a personal threat.

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Anonymous wrote:Too many men and women make too many excuses for being overweight, obese, and out of shape. Fat acceptance is a bizarre Orwellian concept that characterizes the dystopian nature of many womens attitudes towards their obligation to remain fit sexy and attractive for their partners.

Being fat lazy and out of shape makes you a terrible marital partner.

That society thinks 50 year old woman need to look like they did in their 20s. Women used to be able to age and grandmothers weren’t sexy. Now women are made to feel like failures if they don’t weigh the same at 50 as they did at 25. Life was so much better when it was socially acceptable to age and be matronly.

+1 We were watching The Godfather recently and it was striking how all of the older mothers were portly, enjoying pasta, and wearing dresses with graying hair. It is so sad that we now require women look hot (!) and sexually available into their 60s and beyond. Americans are oversexed.

Totally. Also, who is horny when they have grown kids and are menopausal? Having sex all the time is for young and fertile woman. I enjoy it still in my mid 40s, but I don't care about it like I did from about age 16-30. That is just biology... So tired of hearing about how we need to look hot and feel aroused all the time. Um--my body cannot make a baby so it doesn't tell me to have sex a lot. (I actually am pretty hot but these societal pressures are ridiculous and watching women get all these procedures that make them look like old women trying to look young is just plain sad).

You stopped caring about sex at age 30? Anyway, from the sound of it, you were probably one of those people who was never very into sex and viewed it as a procreation tool. Others see it differently and want to feel sexy and enjoy sex into older adulthood. That sounds way more fun than closing up shop, but you do you.

Anonymous wrote:ENM/poly people are into the whole thing to cover up insecurities, low self-esteem, trauma, etc

Nope. It takes a lot of maturity and self understanding to navigate non-monogamy responsibly.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too many men and women make too many excuses for being overweight, obese, and out of shape. Fat acceptance is a bizarre Orwellian concept that characterizes the dystopian nature of many womens attitudes towards their obligation to remain fit sexy and attractive for their partners.

Being fat lazy and out of shape makes you a terrible marital partner.

That society thinks 50 year old woman need to look like they did in their 20s. Women used to be able to age and grandmothers weren’t sexy. Now women are made to feel like failures if they don’t weigh the same at 50 as they did at 25. Life was so much better when it was socially acceptable to age and be matronly.

+1 We were watching The Godfather recently and it was striking how all of the older mothers were portly, enjoying pasta, and wearing dresses with graying hair. It is so sad that we now require women look hot (!) and sexually available into their 60s and beyond. Americans are oversexed.

Totally. Also, who is horny when they have grown kids and are menopausal? Having sex all the time is for young and fertile woman. I enjoy it still in my mid 40s, but I don't care about it like I did from about age 16-30. That is just biology... So tired of hearing about how we need to look hot and feel aroused all the time. Um--my body cannot make a baby so it doesn't tell me to have sex a lot. (I actually am pretty hot but these societal pressures are ridiculous and watching women get all these procedures that make them look like old women trying to look young is just plain sad).

Lady I’m 52 and still fertile (or at least still menstruating) and think about sex constantly.

+ 1. 50 and I have a higher sex drive than I have ever had in my life. It is not all about “making babies.” PP can enjoy sitting in her rocking chair.

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Anonymous wrote:Women should be able to enjoy sex and (safely) sleep with as many men as they want.

Women sleep with whomever they want. Men sleep with whomever they can. You go girl!

I did this decades ago and was harshly judged. Always thought this was some BS and I ignored all of the conventions anyway. Women are sexual beings too and they deserve fulfillment. They should not be expected to be pure virginal maidens locked in a tower eschewing all desire and pleasure while waiting for marriage and for some man to control them. I’m glad that times have changed even a little.

I’ve seen the husbands women like this end up with. Not a pretty sight.

Ha! Sure, honey. Smart men who want to have great sex for the duration of their marriages choose an experienced high drive women. Those who choose the inexperienced prudish types out of some moral guilt have only themselves to blame.

Married 29 years and we still hug, kiss, and cuddle daily. We are lovers and best friends however we don't have too much sex anymore, we desire each other but we are aging and have physical limitations now. We had enough sex in our hay day to last us. We are both fulfilled and happy.

My guess is there are very few, if anymore couples who have been together that long on this message board but I can tell you love and commitment change over the years, love and commitment gets deeper.

So when you hear people are still having sex 7 days a week don't judge anyone unless you have been married 29 years and are really learning what "growing old together" means.

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Anonymous wrote:Too many men and women make too many excuses for being overweight, obese, and out of shape. Fat acceptance is a bizarre Orwellian concept that characterizes the dystopian nature of many womens attitudes towards their obligation to remain fit sexy and attractive for their partners.

Being fat lazy and out of shape makes you a terrible marital partner.

That society thinks 50 year old woman need to look like they did in their 20s. Women used to be able to age and grandmothers weren’t sexy. Now women are made to feel like failures if they don’t weigh the same at 50 as they did at 25. Life was so much better when it was socially acceptable to age and be matronly.

+1 We were watching The Godfather recently and it was striking how all of the older mothers were portly, enjoying pasta, and wearing dresses with graying hair. It is so sad that we now require women look hot (!) and sexually available into their 60s and beyond. Americans are oversexed.

Totally. Also, who is horny when they have grown kids and are menopausal? Having sex all the time is for young and fertile woman. I enjoy it still in my mid 40s, but I don't care about it like I did from about age 16-30. That is just biology... So tired of hearing about how we need to look hot and feel aroused all the time. Um--my body cannot make a baby so it doesn't tell me to have sex a lot. (I actually am pretty hot but these societal pressures are ridiculous and watching women get all these procedures that make them look like old women trying to look young is just plain sad).

Lady I’m 52 and still fertile (or at least still menstruating) and think about sex constantly.

Anonymous wrote:Not talking 75% of the time, pretending everything is fine no matter what the other 25% of the time…seems like a recipe for success!

If you ask my husband it is.

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Anonymous wrote:Women should be able to enjoy sex and (safely) sleep with as many men as they want.

Women sleep with whomever they want. Men sleep with whomever they can. You go girl!

I did this decades ago and was harshly judged. Always thought this was some BS and I ignored all of the conventions anyway. Women are sexual beings too and they deserve fulfillment. They should not be expected to be pure virginal maidens locked in a tower eschewing all desire and pleasure while waiting for marriage and for some man to control them. I’m glad that times have changed even a little.

I’ve seen the husbands women like this end up with. Not a pretty sight.

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Anonymous wrote:Women should contribute 50% to the relationship, including financially.

I agree

Men earn more than women. Shouldn’t contributions be proportional to income?

Sure just like who has the most power and authority should be who makes the most money.

Only if they share the money.