Anonymous
04/19/2023 19:38
Subject: Re:South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
But Republicans want them to be able to get married, have babies and work in meat packing plants but draw the line at their identity???
Anonymous
04/19/2023 19:16
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:
Genital surgery is very vague. It could be any number of things that are not related to gender reassignment.
+1
And 56 whole cases across 40,000+ trans kids? How many of those “trans” kids are intersex? Is it alright with you transphobes if kids born with some combination of both sets of genitals get one set removed as they’ve completed their screening? Is that okay or do they need to keep both in order to satisfy you, even if they’re waiting to start dating?
Anonymous
04/19/2023 19:15
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Wait, I thought this was about insurance companies, not taxpayer funding?
Anonymous
04/19/2023 19:07
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And few of us are even talking about surgery. Most of us are advocating for blockers and hormones. But if we were talking about surgery...
"there is an extremely low prevalence of regret in transgender patients after GAS"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/
Most of the people here posting that they don't want children to transition would still disagree with their adult children transitioning.
There are other ways we should be helping people with gender dysphoria besides making them lifelong medical patients.
I sympathize with those who are not at peace in their bodies. But sympathy and wanting the best for someone does not mean I have to jump into that hole with them.
So you're confirming you don't want adults to transition either.
Why do you think that your opinion on this is more important than the people themselves? Adults have bodily autonomy and should be given free reign to do what they want with their own bodies. You're basically a third party observer that doesn't have a say nor should you on what others do with their bodies.
You want body autonomy, do it with your own money, not the tax payers.
I have financial autonomy.
Anonymous
04/19/2023 19:02
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Genital surgery is very vague. It could be any number of things that are not related to gender reassignment.
Anonymous
Anonymous
02/16/2023 12:12
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:If the voters want to restrict gender care in publicly funded settings, ok. I don’t like it but I can accept it. But that has to be going forward, not retroactive. And no medical records should be shared.
The government regulates private health care, not just "publicly funded settings".
Anonymous
02/16/2023 12:11
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
If the voters want to restrict gender care in publicly funded settings, ok. I don’t like it but I can accept it. But that has to be going forward, not retroactive. And no medical records should be shared.
Anonymous
02/16/2023 12:05
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And few of us are even talking about surgery. Most of us are advocating for blockers and hormones. But if we were talking about surgery...
"there is an extremely low prevalence of regret in transgender patients after GAS"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/
Most of the people here posting that they don't want children to transition would still disagree with their adult children transitioning.
There are other ways we should be helping people with gender dysphoria besides making them lifelong medical patients.
I sympathize with those who are not at peace in their bodies. But sympathy and wanting the best for someone does not mean I have to jump into that hole with them.
So you're confirming you don't want adults to transition either.
Why do you think that your opinion on this is more important than the people themselves? Adults have bodily autonomy and should be given free reign to do what they want with their own bodies. You're basically a third party observer that doesn't have a say nor should you on what others do with their bodies.
Adults with body dysphoria don't always have an easy time finding a doctor willing to remove healthy body parts - transition surgery is somewhat different in this respect but I think that's pretty new.
That's a separate discussion than this one.
It really isn't a different issue. You want to ban surgery for children as a creeping ban on everyone. I'm fine with banning them under 18. Once you're 18, you're an adult.
This doesn't make sense. Did you mistype?
Anonymous
02/16/2023 12:02
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And few of us are even talking about surgery. Most of us are advocating for blockers and hormones. But if we were talking about surgery...
"there is an extremely low prevalence of regret in transgender patients after GAS"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/
Most of the people here posting that they don't want children to transition would still disagree with their adult children transitioning.
There are other ways we should be helping people with gender dysphoria besides making them lifelong medical patients.
I sympathize with those who are not at peace in their bodies. But sympathy and wanting the best for someone does not mean I have to jump into that hole with them.
So you're confirming you don't want adults to transition either.
Why do you think that your opinion on this is more important than the people themselves? Adults have bodily autonomy and should be given free reign to do what they want with their own bodies. You're basically a third party observer that doesn't have a say nor should you on what others do with their bodies.
Adults with body dysphoria don't always have an easy time finding a doctor willing to remove healthy body parts - transition surgery is somewhat different in this respect but I think that's pretty new.
That's a separate discussion than this one.
It really isn't a different issue. You want to ban surgery for children as a creeping ban on everyone. I'm fine with banning them under 18. Once you're 18, you're an adult.
Anonymous
02/16/2023 11:59
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And few of us are even talking about surgery. Most of us are advocating for blockers and hormones. But if we were talking about surgery...
"there is an extremely low prevalence of regret in transgender patients after GAS"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/
Most of the people here posting that they don't want children to transition would still disagree with their adult children transitioning.
There are other ways we should be helping people with gender dysphoria besides making them lifelong medical patients.
I sympathize with those who are not at peace in their bodies. But sympathy and wanting the best for someone does not mean I have to jump into that hole with them.
So you're confirming you don't want adults to transition either.
Why do you think that your opinion on this is more important than the people themselves? Adults have bodily autonomy and should be given free reign to do what they want with their own bodies. You're basically a third party observer that doesn't have a say nor should you on what others do with their bodies.
Adults with body dysphoria don't always have an easy time finding a doctor willing to remove healthy body parts - transition surgery is somewhat different in this respect but I think that's pretty new.
That's a separate discussion than this one.
Anonymous
02/16/2023 11:55
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And few of us are even talking about surgery. Most of us are advocating for blockers and hormones. But if we were talking about surgery...
"there is an extremely low prevalence of regret in transgender patients after GAS"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/
Most of the people here posting that they don't want children to transition would still disagree with their adult children transitioning.
There are other ways we should be helping people with gender dysphoria besides making them lifelong medical patients.
I sympathize with those who are not at peace in their bodies. But sympathy and wanting the best for someone does not mean I have to jump into that hole with them.
So you're confirming you don't want adults to transition either.
Why do you think that your opinion on this is more important than the people themselves? Adults have bodily autonomy and should be given free reign to do what they want with their own bodies. You're basically a third party observer that doesn't have a say nor should you on what others do with their bodies.
You know full well there are limits on bodily autonomy. There wouldn't be suicide wards if there weren't.
Anonymous
02/16/2023 11:42
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And few of us are even talking about surgery. Most of us are advocating for blockers and hormones. But if we were talking about surgery...
"there is an extremely low prevalence of regret in transgender patients after GAS"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/
Most of the people here posting that they don't want children to transition would still disagree with their adult children transitioning.
There are other ways we should be helping people with gender dysphoria besides making them lifelong medical patients.
I sympathize with those who are not at peace in their bodies. But sympathy and wanting the best for someone does not mean I have to jump into that hole with them.
So you're confirming you don't want adults to transition either.
Why do you think that your opinion on this is more important than the people themselves? Adults have bodily autonomy and should be given free reign to do what they want with their own bodies. You're basically a third party observer that doesn't have a say nor should you on what others do with their bodies.
Dp. This discussion is about minors transitioning. Conversations about adults should be a separate thread.
When your argument against people transitioning is that they'll be "medical patients for life", you've expanded the scope of the discussion far past childhood.
Anonymous
02/16/2023 11:39
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And few of us are even talking about surgery. Most of us are advocating for blockers and hormones. But if we were talking about surgery...
"there is an extremely low prevalence of regret in transgender patients after GAS"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/
Most of the people here posting that they don't want children to transition would still disagree with their adult children transitioning.
There are other ways we should be helping people with gender dysphoria besides making them lifelong medical patients.
I sympathize with those who are not at peace in their bodies. But sympathy and wanting the best for someone does not mean I have to jump into that hole with them.
So you're confirming you don't want adults to transition either.
Why do you think that your opinion on this is more important than the people themselves? Adults have bodily autonomy and should be given free reign to do what they want with their own bodies. You're basically a third party observer that doesn't have a say nor should you on what others do with their bodies.
Dp. This discussion is about minors transitioning. Conversations about adults should be a separate thread.
Anonymous
02/16/2023 10:58
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And few of us are even talking about surgery. Most of us are advocating for blockers and hormones. But if we were talking about surgery...
"there is an extremely low prevalence of regret in transgender patients after GAS"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/
Most of the people here posting that they don't want children to transition would still disagree with their adult children transitioning.
There are other ways we should be helping people with gender dysphoria besides making them lifelong medical patients.
I sympathize with those who are not at peace in their bodies. But sympathy and wanting the best for someone does not mean I have to jump into that hole with them.
So you're confirming you don't want adults to transition either.
Why do you think that your opinion on this is more important than the people themselves? Adults have bodily autonomy and should be given free reign to do what they want with their own bodies. You're basically a third party observer that doesn't have a say nor should you on what others do with their bodies.