Anonymous
03/14/2023 07:51
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:To the angry FCPS employee about compensatory services- were you ever angry when FCPS refused to do testing on kids? Were you angry when kids couldn't read? Did you tell a parent you had never heard of dyslexia and didn't get why a child needed services?
I hope you were angry about that too.
Parents in FCPS have been treated horribly by FCPS for years. In 2020, a local advocate reached out to me about our IEP process and I gladly turned over my IEP, emails and documents. I helped the OCR investigation. I don't regret it at all because for years my child got no help and I was ignored. My child doesn't get those years back and I did it to help other families. FCPS needs to change their ways and I am glad they are being held accountable.
Parents and staff have been treated horribly by FCPS leadership for years.
Anonymous
03/14/2023 07:47
Subject: Compensatory Services
To the angry FCPS employee about compensatory services- were you ever angry when FCPS refused to do testing on kids? Were you angry when kids couldn't read? Did you tell a parent you had never heard of dyslexia and didn't get why a child needed services?
I hope you were angry about that too.
Parents in FCPS have been treated horribly by FCPS for years. In 2020, a local advocate reached out to me about our IEP process and I gladly turned over my IEP, emails and documents. I helped the OCR investigation. I don't regret it at all because for years my child got no help and I was ignored. My child doesn't get those years back and I did it to help other families. FCPS needs to change their ways and I am glad they are being held accountable.
I hope you were angry about that too.
Parents in FCPS have been treated horribly by FCPS for years. In 2020, a local advocate reached out to me about our IEP process and I gladly turned over my IEP, emails and documents. I helped the OCR investigation. I don't regret it at all because for years my child got no help and I was ignored. My child doesn't get those years back and I did it to help other families. FCPS needs to change their ways and I am glad they are being held accountable.
Anonymous
03/14/2023 01:11
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe teachers should direct their irritation about compensatory services toward their leadership? Parents didn’t make the directive that they didn’t have to teach special kids.
I taught special ed kids. Every day during the virtual learning year. This lawsuit even covers the year we were fully back in person. And requires us to spend hours combing through old data and hold second iep meetings for literally every special education student in our building before June. It's almost impossible to get through all the meetings in a regular year but now we have to do it twice. OCR has lost there ever loving minds.
That is nice that you taught special kids when it was your job but many schools took away services. It happened to us. We were fortunate to be able to go to a private tutor- it was expensive but the teacher was fantastic and our child made massive improvements. It was worth it but it was expensive.
I have no expectations that the FCPS compensatory services will be good so we are not doing them but we are submitting our expenses for the time we paid for the private tutor. We probably won’t get paid back but I want someone to see the cost.
Ok: wow- that was really expensive. You really helped your kid by paying all that money. You really love him! A+ for parenting. Bad school. Bad teacher. Bad emergency response. Bad bad scared teachers.
Does that help? What you are saying is you are angry and want acknowledgement because you can’t handle it. You want the teaching profession to pay. We got it. At this point it is like give us the paddling you think all those horrible lazy women teachers deserve and move on with picking up the pieces. The misogyny that is inherent in the lack of respect teachers and nurses are feeling right now is incredible. So abisive. You need to be heard so make women do more work- got it.
Stop. First of all, yes it IS A+ parenting and one that schools and everyone in it should be thankful.
This poster said nothing about "bad teachers" or paddling. But the fact is, lots of parents DID have to PAY to fill that gap. We were happy do so, as well. But don't you dare complain about those parents who did so and picked up where the schools left off. And your screed only gives teachers a bad name.
The “schools should be thankful?” Please. It’s YOUR KID.
Major problem in this county....entitlement of you owe me and my kid.
Try to find a new word. You can do better.
They don’t need to find a new one. They’re using the correct one.
Anonymous
03/14/2023 01:09
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe teachers should direct their irritation about compensatory services toward their leadership? Parents didn’t make the directive that they didn’t have to teach special kids.
I taught special ed kids. Every day during the virtual learning year. This lawsuit even covers the year we were fully back in person. And requires us to spend hours combing through old data and hold second iep meetings for literally every special education student in our building before June. It's almost impossible to get through all the meetings in a regular year but now we have to do it twice. OCR has lost there ever loving minds.
That is nice that you taught special kids when it was your job but many schools took away services. It happened to us. We were fortunate to be able to go to a private tutor- it was expensive but the teacher was fantastic and our child made massive improvements. It was worth it but it was expensive.
I have no expectations that the FCPS compensatory services will be good so we are not doing them but we are submitting our expenses for the time we paid for the private tutor. We probably won’t get paid back but I want someone to see the cost.
Ok: wow- that was really expensive. You really helped your kid by paying all that money. You really love him! A+ for parenting. Bad school. Bad teacher. Bad emergency response. Bad bad scared teachers.
Does that help? What you are saying is you are angry and want acknowledgement because you can’t handle it. You want the teaching profession to pay. We got it. At this point it is like give us the paddling you think all those horrible lazy women teachers deserve and move on with picking up the pieces. The misogyny that is inherent in the lack of respect teachers and nurses are feeling right now is incredible. So abisive. You need to be heard so make women do more work- got it.
Stop. First of all, yes it IS A+ parenting and one that schools and everyone in it should be thankful.
This poster said nothing about "bad teachers" or paddling. But the fact is, lots of parents DID have to PAY to fill that gap. We were happy do so, as well. But don't you dare complain about those parents who did so and picked up where the schools left off. And your screed only gives teachers a bad name.
The “schools should be thankful?” Please. It’s YOUR KID.
My kid that is propping up YOUR numbers for high performing students. It isn't the education being received but the extra work we and others do to fill those gaps. And you know it.
I’m neither a teacher nor an administrator. You fail.
And the only thing I “know” is that everything you just wrote is self-important BS.
Anonymous
03/14/2023 00:23
Subject: Re:Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote: To the parents requesting reimbursement for your tutoring or therapy- you are taking money from the school system that needs to go to the STUDENTS and to the STAFF. Now schools will be hurting even more.
To the SPED employee: FCPS has proven time and time again that they are not good fiscal stewards of our county taxpayer dollars. Any reimbursement I receive will go back into increasing tutoring sessions for my kid in order to try to lessen the learning loss gap. FCPS SB members’ decision to allow SACC to operate in schools and to ignore (all kids, but particularly) SPED kids sitting at home losing skills due to their inability to engage in virtual “learning” was ludicrous.
Don’t be mad at parents—be mad at your employer.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 22:36
Subject: Re:Compensatory Services
Over the years, I’ve worked with some amazing SPED families; but every year, there is one that sucks up all your time.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 22:15
Subject: Re:Compensatory Services
Just want to jump in as a SPED employee and FCPS parent how disappointing this process has been. I am so disappointed at many of the parents I work with.
First, tons of FCPS parents lobbied for virtual school and threatened that their rights would be violated and their student would be unsafe if they weren't virtual for extended amount of time. Then parents complained about virtual and say FCPS didn't meet students needs and FCPS should be held responsible and held accountable for that. FCPS can't win.
To the parents who are entitled and wealthy or freeloaders and think that SPED services are simply free tutoring or free speech/OT/PT- you are wrong. SPED services and school therapy services are to ensure students can access the curriculum and receive FAPE- it is not free speech/OT/PT so you don't have to pay or drive to therapy. SPED is not free private tutor to maximize potential for a child who doesn't actually have an educational disability.
To the parents who constantly complain that FCPS doesn't meet their needs or honor "their rights"- thanks so much. FCPS leaders and SPED staff are focused more on fear of litigation and kissing parents butts instead of meeting students ACTUAL needs. No matter what they do, FCPS cannot please parents. And staff sure knows that all the parents will bash them, often by name and with false truths, on their neighborhood facebook groups.
What do you expect school staff to do with the lack of money and staff resources available, and increasing demands placed on them by the county (which is driven by parent complaint! and fear of law suit!!!). Oh great- now staff will have even less time and less money because of parents legal threats and OCR. What a win for the students.
To the parents requesting reimbursement for your tutoring or therapy- you are taking money from the school system that needs to go to the STUDENTS and to the STAFF. Now schools will be hurting even more.
FCPS is one of FOUR school systems in the country who was audited. All the other counties who did the same (or worse) as FCPS are not having to do this. Thank you FCPS parents for making it harder on staff. I blame you.
OCR is at the expense of STAFF- though hours of data digs, hours of extra meetings, hours of extra paperwork, and unbelievable amount of stress (all for no appropriate extra compensation). OCR is at the expense of the STUDENTS. All the students are now stuck with IAs for teachers while the GEN ED AND SPED TEACHERS and related service providers are in extra meetings, or taking "sub days' to do required paperwork or training.
SOME STUDENTS REALLY DID REQUIRE COMPENSATORY SERVICES- SPED CASE MANAGERS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER THOSE STUDENTS RECOVERY SERVICES.
MANY PARENTS WHO ARE NOW DEMANDING MORE ARE BEING GREEDY AND ENTITLED AND HAVE NO CLUE WHAT IT COSTS, OR WHAT SPED SERVICES ACTUALLY ARE.
First, tons of FCPS parents lobbied for virtual school and threatened that their rights would be violated and their student would be unsafe if they weren't virtual for extended amount of time. Then parents complained about virtual and say FCPS didn't meet students needs and FCPS should be held responsible and held accountable for that. FCPS can't win.
To the parents who are entitled and wealthy or freeloaders and think that SPED services are simply free tutoring or free speech/OT/PT- you are wrong. SPED services and school therapy services are to ensure students can access the curriculum and receive FAPE- it is not free speech/OT/PT so you don't have to pay or drive to therapy. SPED is not free private tutor to maximize potential for a child who doesn't actually have an educational disability.
To the parents who constantly complain that FCPS doesn't meet their needs or honor "their rights"- thanks so much. FCPS leaders and SPED staff are focused more on fear of litigation and kissing parents butts instead of meeting students ACTUAL needs. No matter what they do, FCPS cannot please parents. And staff sure knows that all the parents will bash them, often by name and with false truths, on their neighborhood facebook groups.
What do you expect school staff to do with the lack of money and staff resources available, and increasing demands placed on them by the county (which is driven by parent complaint! and fear of law suit!!!). Oh great- now staff will have even less time and less money because of parents legal threats and OCR. What a win for the students.
To the parents requesting reimbursement for your tutoring or therapy- you are taking money from the school system that needs to go to the STUDENTS and to the STAFF. Now schools will be hurting even more.
FCPS is one of FOUR school systems in the country who was audited. All the other counties who did the same (or worse) as FCPS are not having to do this. Thank you FCPS parents for making it harder on staff. I blame you.
OCR is at the expense of STAFF- though hours of data digs, hours of extra meetings, hours of extra paperwork, and unbelievable amount of stress (all for no appropriate extra compensation). OCR is at the expense of the STUDENTS. All the students are now stuck with IAs for teachers while the GEN ED AND SPED TEACHERS and related service providers are in extra meetings, or taking "sub days' to do required paperwork or training.
SOME STUDENTS REALLY DID REQUIRE COMPENSATORY SERVICES- SPED CASE MANAGERS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER THOSE STUDENTS RECOVERY SERVICES.
MANY PARENTS WHO ARE NOW DEMANDING MORE ARE BEING GREEDY AND ENTITLED AND HAVE NO CLUE WHAT IT COSTS, OR WHAT SPED SERVICES ACTUALLY ARE.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 21:55
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe teachers should direct their irritation about compensatory services toward their leadership? Parents didn’t make the directive that they didn’t have to teach special kids.
I taught special ed kids. Every day during the virtual learning year. This lawsuit even covers the year we were fully back in person. And requires us to spend hours combing through old data and hold second iep meetings for literally every special education student in our building before June. It's almost impossible to get through all the meetings in a regular year but now we have to do it twice. OCR has lost there ever loving minds.
That is nice that you taught special kids when it was your job but many schools took away services. It happened to us. We were fortunate to be able to go to a private tutor- it was expensive but the teacher was fantastic and our child made massive improvements. It was worth it but it was expensive.
I have no expectations that the FCPS compensatory services will be good so we are not doing them but we are submitting our expenses for the time we paid for the private tutor. We probably won’t get paid back but I want someone to see the cost.
Ok: wow- that was really expensive. You really helped your kid by paying all that money. You really love him! A+ for parenting. Bad school. Bad teacher. Bad emergency response. Bad bad scared teachers.
Does that help? What you are saying is you are angry and want acknowledgement because you can’t handle it. You want the teaching profession to pay. We got it. At this point it is like give us the paddling you think all those horrible lazy women teachers deserve and move on with picking up the pieces. The misogyny that is inherent in the lack of respect teachers and nurses are feeling right now is incredible. So abisive. You need to be heard so make women do more work- got it.
Stop. First of all, yes it IS A+ parenting and one that schools and everyone in it should be thankful.
This poster said nothing about "bad teachers" or paddling. But the fact is, lots of parents DID have to PAY to fill that gap. We were happy do so, as well. But don't you dare complain about those parents who did so and picked up where the schools left off. And your screed only gives teachers a bad name.
The “schools should be thankful?” Please. It’s YOUR KID.
Major problem in this county....entitlement of you owe me and my kid.
Try to find a new word. You can do better.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 21:53
Subject: Re:Compensatory Services
testing
Anonymous
02/26/2023 13:06
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agree that gatehouse staff should be doing the paperwork and meetings. This was a systemic failure and should be handled out of gatehouse not indovodual teachers.
+ a million-teachers are DONE. this has finished a lot of SPED teachers. Good luck next year with your resident teachers.
Okay. I’m still waiting for the resignations that we’ve been hearing about since 2020 to actually occur.
After a while this kind of shrill argument loses its effectiveness. Lol.
Teachers have been complaining for 40 years. We get it- we hear you- you have the hardest job in the world. So please go get another one and see how the rest of us live. It is hard to have a job.
lol, I did. There's a reason I didn't go back to teaching. I'm paid double to do half the work in my corporate position. I actually get weekends with my family now.
THIS!
Anonymous
02/26/2023 13:05
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe teachers should direct their irritation about compensatory services toward their leadership? Parents didn’t make the directive that they didn’t have to teach special kids.
I taught special ed kids. Every day during the virtual learning year. This lawsuit even covers the year we were fully back in person. And requires us to spend hours combing through old data and hold second iep meetings for literally every special education student in our building before June. It's almost impossible to get through all the meetings in a regular year but now we have to do it twice. OCR has lost there ever loving minds.
That is nice that you taught special kids when it was your job but many schools took away services. It happened to us. We were fortunate to be able to go to a private tutor- it was expensive but the teacher was fantastic and our child made massive improvements. It was worth it but it was expensive.
I have no expectations that the FCPS compensatory services will be good so we are not doing them but we are submitting our expenses for the time we paid for the private tutor. We probably won’t get paid back but I want someone to see the cost.
Ok: wow- that was really expensive. You really helped your kid by paying all that money. You really love him! A+ for parenting. Bad school. Bad teacher. Bad emergency response. Bad bad scared teachers.
Does that help? What you are saying is you are angry and want acknowledgement because you can’t handle it. You want the teaching profession to pay. We got it. At this point it is like give us the paddling you think all those horrible lazy women teachers deserve and move on with picking up the pieces. The misogyny that is inherent in the lack of respect teachers and nurses are feeling right now is incredible. So abisive. You need to be heard so make women do more work- got it.
Stop. First of all, yes it IS A+ parenting and one that schools and everyone in it should be thankful.
This poster said nothing about "bad teachers" or paddling. But the fact is, lots of parents DID have to PAY to fill that gap. We were happy do so, as well. But don't you dare complain about those parents who did so and picked up where the schools left off. And your screed only gives teachers a bad name.
The “schools should be thankful?” Please. It’s YOUR KID.
My kid that is propping up YOUR numbers for high performing students. It isn't the education being received but the extra work we and others do to fill those gaps. And you know it.
Do you really think teachers care about NUMBERS. This is part of the problem. We are not allowed to worry about kids or teach them. That is what we should worry about. I could give a sh+@ about the NUMBERS! And I certainly am not giving you credit for being a parent. I'm a parent too and I take care of my kids and yes that means getting my kids help that they might need. I'm blessed and so are you that you can help your kids outside of the school day....some parents can't afford that. Go private.
Anonymous
02/24/2023 03:02
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe teachers should direct their irritation about compensatory services toward their leadership? Parents didn’t make the directive that they didn’t have to teach special kids.
I taught special ed kids. Every day during the virtual learning year. This lawsuit even covers the year we were fully back in person. And requires us to spend hours combing through old data and hold second iep meetings for literally every special education student in our building before June. It's almost impossible to get through all the meetings in a regular year but now we have to do it twice. OCR has lost there ever loving minds.
That is nice that you taught special kids when it was your job but many schools took away services. It happened to us. We were fortunate to be able to go to a private tutor- it was expensive but the teacher was fantastic and our child made massive improvements. It was worth it but it was expensive.
I have no expectations that the FCPS compensatory services will be good so we are not doing them but we are submitting our expenses for the time we paid for the private tutor. We probably won’t get paid back but I want someone to see the cost.
Ok: wow- that was really expensive. You really helped your kid by paying all that money. You really love him! A+ for parenting. Bad school. Bad teacher. Bad emergency response. Bad bad scared teachers.
Does that help? What you are saying is you are angry and want acknowledgement because you can’t handle it. You want the teaching profession to pay. We got it. At this point it is like give us the paddling you think all those horrible lazy women teachers deserve and move on with picking up the pieces. The misogyny that is inherent in the lack of respect teachers and nurses are feeling right now is incredible. So abisive. You need to be heard so make women do more work- got it.
Stop. First of all, yes it IS A+ parenting and one that schools and everyone in it should be thankful.
This poster said nothing about "bad teachers" or paddling. But the fact is, lots of parents DID have to PAY to fill that gap. We were happy do so, as well. But don't you dare complain about those parents who did so and picked up where the schools left off. And your screed only gives teachers a bad name.
The “schools should be thankful?” Please. It’s YOUR KID.
My kid that is propping up YOUR numbers for high performing students. It isn't the education being received but the extra work we and others do to fill those gaps. And you know it.
This is such a wild stance to have. IT IS YOUR KID. Yeah, you’re doing way more work than the school for them- as you should. That’s called parenting. This has always been the case. You have a child, you raise the child, you support the child. You fill in the gaps in every aspect their whole life. You are not specifically owed compensation for this, it’s called parenting.
Anonymous
02/23/2023 18:41
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agree that gatehouse staff should be doing the paperwork and meetings. This was a systemic failure and should be handled out of gatehouse not indovodual teachers.
+ a million-teachers are DONE. this has finished a lot of SPED teachers. Good luck next year with your resident teachers.
Okay. I’m still waiting for the resignations that we’ve been hearing about since 2020 to actually occur.
After a while this kind of shrill argument loses its effectiveness. Lol.
Oh, honey. You won’t be “LOL”-ing next year.
Yawn.
This is what was said in 2020, 2021 and 2022.
Teachers need new talking points. The old “WE’RE ALL LEAVING” can only be shouted so many times before parents and community members start rolling their eyes.
So tired of people who can’t find even a single newsmax article to back up their CAPS shouting.
Anonymous
02/23/2023 17:35
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe teachers should direct their irritation about compensatory services toward their leadership? Parents didn’t make the directive that they didn’t have to teach special kids.
I taught special ed kids. Every day during the virtual learning year. This lawsuit even covers the year we were fully back in person. And requires us to spend hours combing through old data and hold second iep meetings for literally every special education student in our building before June. It's almost impossible to get through all the meetings in a regular year but now we have to do it twice. OCR has lost there ever loving minds.
That is nice that you taught special kids when it was your job but many schools took away services. It happened to us. We were fortunate to be able to go to a private tutor- it was expensive but the teacher was fantastic and our child made massive improvements. It was worth it but it was expensive.
I have no expectations that the FCPS compensatory services will be good so we are not doing them but we are submitting our expenses for the time we paid for the private tutor. We probably won’t get paid back but I want someone to see the cost.
Ooh you are so scary
Ok: wow- that was really expensive. You really helped your kid by paying all that money. You really love him! A+ for parenting. Bad school. Bad teacher. Bad emergency response. Bad bad scared teachers.
Does that help? What you are saying is you are angry and want acknowledgement because you can’t handle it. You want the teaching profession to pay. We got it. At this point it is like give us the paddling you think all those horrible lazy women teachers deserve and move on with picking up the pieces. The misogyny that is inherent in the lack of respect teachers and nurses are feeling right now is incredible. So abisive. You need to be heard so make women do more work- got it.
Stop. First of all, yes it IS A+ parenting and one that schools and everyone in it should be thankful.
This poster said nothing about "bad teachers" or paddling. But the fact is, lots of parents DID have to PAY to fill that gap. We were happy do so, as well. But don't you dare complain about those parents who did so and picked up where the schools left off. And your screed only gives teachers a bad name.
Not the PP but they can complain about whatever they want....SIT DOWN!
“SIT DOWN?” Who the hell do you think you are? Is your name Jeff?
So tough.....
Anonymous
02/23/2023 17:35
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe teachers should direct their irritation about compensatory services toward their leadership? Parents didn’t make the directive that they didn’t have to teach special kids.
I taught special ed kids. Every day during the virtual learning year. This lawsuit even covers the year we were fully back in person. And requires us to spend hours combing through old data and hold second iep meetings for literally every special education student in our building before June. It's almost impossible to get through all the meetings in a regular year but now we have to do it twice. OCR has lost there ever loving minds.
That is nice that you taught special kids when it was your job but many schools took away services. It happened to us. We were fortunate to be able to go to a private tutor- it was expensive but the teacher was fantastic and our child made massive improvements. It was worth it but it was expensive.
I have no expectations that the FCPS compensatory services will be good so we are not doing them but we are submitting our expenses for the time we paid for the private tutor. We probably won’t get paid back but I want someone to see the cost.
Ooh you are so scary
Ok: wow- that was really expensive. You really helped your kid by paying all that money. You really love him! A+ for parenting. Bad school. Bad teacher. Bad emergency response. Bad bad scared teachers.
Does that help? What you are saying is you are angry and want acknowledgement because you can’t handle it. You want the teaching profession to pay. We got it. At this point it is like give us the paddling you think all those horrible lazy women teachers deserve and move on with picking up the pieces. The misogyny that is inherent in the lack of respect teachers and nurses are feeling right now is incredible. So abisive. You need to be heard so make women do more work- got it.
Stop. First of all, yes it IS A+ parenting and one that schools and everyone in it should be thankful.
This poster said nothing about "bad teachers" or paddling. But the fact is, lots of parents DID have to PAY to fill that gap. We were happy do so, as well. But don't you dare complain about those parents who did so and picked up where the schools left off. And your screed only gives teachers a bad name.
Not the PP but they can complain about whatever they want....SIT DOWN!
“SIT DOWN?” Who the hell do you think you are? Is your name Jeff?