Anonymous
02/13/2023 12:09
Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)
Anonymous wrote:Was talking to friends about this show last night. They had all watched a couple episodes before determining it was too sad and/or scary to keep watching. I'm fairly sensitive so I'm actually surprised I'm the only one still watching. And it really is horribly sad. Episodes 3 and 4 were not very scary but the latest episode was extremely stressful and of course very tragic.
I think what is maintaining my interest is Pedro Pascal. It's really exciting to see him get this chance to play such a complex central character. I have been a fan of his for a while but I feel like before The Last of Us and Mandalorian, the biggest showcase he had was that short stint on Game of Thrones. Which was great, but only a handful of episodes. And while his character was really fun, he was written in such a shallow way, so there was less for him to do. And of course on the Mandalorian, he's in a helmet the entire time.
He's just crazy talented and it's actually bizarre to me that after working for decades and having bit parts in a bunch of TV shows and movies, he's only now getting something this meaty. But he's really good in it and I feel like he's getting a chance to really unfold this character over time, too. Bella Ramsey (who I also loved in GoT, again in a small but extremely memorable role) I was unsure about at first because of some of the choices she was making, but I've come around and like her portrayal as well -- I think it's more that it's unclear if I like Ellie or not, but I have come to believe that's the point.
But Pedro Pascal is really the selling point for me. He's just so good. I have to see it through to the end for that alone. Even though it's kind of hard to watch at times.
ITA that Pascal should be a much bigger star than he is. I think the cast thus far has been uniformly good. I am coming around to the idea that this isn't really a zombie show. It's more a show about the interpersonal journeys of the characters and the world that now exists around them.
It reminds me a lot of both The Road and Children of Men in that respect.
Anonymous
02/13/2023 10:36
Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)
Was talking to friends about this show last night. They had all watched a couple episodes before determining it was too sad and/or scary to keep watching. I'm fairly sensitive so I'm actually surprised I'm the only one still watching. And it really is horribly sad. Episodes 3 and 4 were not very scary but the latest episode was extremely stressful and of course very tragic.
I think what is maintaining my interest is Pedro Pascal. It's really exciting to see him get this chance to play such a complex central character. I have been a fan of his for a while but I feel like before The Last of Us and Mandalorian, the biggest showcase he had was that short stint on Game of Thrones. Which was great, but only a handful of episodes. And while his character was really fun, he was written in such a shallow way, so there was less for him to do. And of course on the Mandalorian, he's in a helmet the entire time.
He's just crazy talented and it's actually bizarre to me that after working for decades and having bit parts in a bunch of TV shows and movies, he's only now getting something this meaty. But he's really good in it and I feel like he's getting a chance to really unfold this character over time, too. Bella Ramsey (who I also loved in GoT, again in a small but extremely memorable role) I was unsure about at first because of some of the choices she was making, but I've come around and like her portrayal as well -- I think it's more that it's unclear if I like Ellie or not, but I have come to believe that's the point.
But Pedro Pascal is really the selling point for me. He's just so good. I have to see it through to the end for that alone. Even though it's kind of hard to watch at times.
I think what is maintaining my interest is Pedro Pascal. It's really exciting to see him get this chance to play such a complex central character. I have been a fan of his for a while but I feel like before The Last of Us and Mandalorian, the biggest showcase he had was that short stint on Game of Thrones. Which was great, but only a handful of episodes. And while his character was really fun, he was written in such a shallow way, so there was less for him to do. And of course on the Mandalorian, he's in a helmet the entire time.
He's just crazy talented and it's actually bizarre to me that after working for decades and having bit parts in a bunch of TV shows and movies, he's only now getting something this meaty. But he's really good in it and I feel like he's getting a chance to really unfold this character over time, too. Bella Ramsey (who I also loved in GoT, again in a small but extremely memorable role) I was unsure about at first because of some of the choices she was making, but I've come around and like her portrayal as well -- I think it's more that it's unclear if I like Ellie or not, but I have come to believe that's the point.
But Pedro Pascal is really the selling point for me. He's just so good. I have to see it through to the end for that alone. Even though it's kind of hard to watch at times.
Anonymous
02/13/2023 10:29
Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would Sam, as an infected, not attack those in the room immediately? Was he still in there, like he asked about? Or was it solely for dramatic effect that the director waits until Ellie is going up to him and is surprised?
Agree this made zero sense. She should have awakened to his attacking her.
The infected have some erratic behavior though and we still don't know exactly the nature of the infected. Like are the human bodies actually alive, or are they just a corpse hosting the cordycep parasite? Maybe they start out alive and then die as the cordyceps take over? They also definitely have periods of dormancy, as with all the infected underground in St. Louis who were dormant for what appears to be years? What causes dormancy? How long does it take an infected to begin attacking people? Recall the elderly neighbor back in Texas who must have gotten infected during her hospital visit, and then appeared to die (?) in her chair in the living room, before "waking up" and attacking/infecting the other neighbors? It's not like she got infected and immediately started attacking people. There was a period of time, maybe even a day, where she was just sitting there.
I do think it was done for dramatic effect, because at that point you know he's infected and it seems very unlikely Ellie's blood magic trick worked, but also you are holding out some hope. However, I also think based on what we have seen of the infected's behavior thus far, there is enough variation in how infection works that I don't think we can say the choice was inconsistent.
I have only watched the show, though, never played the game, so only know what I've been told in these five episodes.
Anonymous
02/13/2023 10:19
Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would Sam, as an infected, not attack those in the room immediately? Was he still in there, like he asked about? Or was it solely for dramatic effect that the director waits until Ellie is going up to him and is surprised?
Agree this made zero sense. She should have awakened to his attacking her.
Sam is still deaf so while he was facing the window he was unaware she was in the room until she came in his line of sight.
Anonymous
02/13/2023 09:36
Subject: The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)
Henry was not Sam's dad but his brother.
Anonymous
02/13/2023 09:14
Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)
Anonymous wrote:Why would Sam, as an infected, not attack those in the room immediately? Was he still in there, like he asked about? Or was it solely for dramatic effect that the director waits until Ellie is going up to him and is surprised?
Agree this made zero sense. She should have awakened to his attacking her.
Anonymous
02/12/2023 20:11
Subject: The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agree, I can’t stop thinking about it. Also KC is so screwed now too ugh. Feels like it was all for nothing.
That's what I said at the end - way to go - you just helped destroy Kansas City and everyone in it.
I was more or less expecting what happened. If you didn't watch the little episode discussion at the end I highly recommend it. The kid that played Sam is deaf and they had some really nice moments with him and the cast and crew.
What do you mean by "way to go" though? It felt like one of those very moral gray area situations. Like you understand why Melanie Lynskie is pursuing the men who, in turn, got her brother killed and then killed her son. But you also understand why Henry did what he did to save his son, and why Joel did what he did to protect himself and Ellie. Plus the infected were already waking up even aside from all of this happening -- remember when they show Melanie Lynsky how the ground is moving with waking infected underground, and she's like "ok I can't deal with that right now we need to find Henry."
Everyone makes some bad choices and also you can understand why they made those choices in the moment, and also some of those were impossible choices either way. Was Henry supposed to just let his son die? Was Joel supposed to let Ellie die or let himself be shot?
The episode just really highlighted how screwed everyone is. It's a hard watch.
Kind of gallows humor, I guess. I agree with everything you said. It was all just a waste in the end.
Anonymous
02/12/2023 19:36
Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Uuuuuuuuuugh, tonight’s episode was STRESSFUL.
)don’t forget they released it early)
Stressful and sad
may be a hot take, but that was one of the saddest scenes of television i have ever seen.
+1
+2 when someone is deeply traumatized and lost their primary mission in life.
I knew something had to happen to them, but…ugh. That was brutal.
Anonymous
02/12/2023 19:25
Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)
Why would Sam, as an infected, not attack those in the room immediately? Was he still in there, like he asked about? Or was it solely for dramatic effect that the director waits until Ellie is going up to him and is surprised?
Anonymous
02/12/2023 11:27
Subject: The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agree, I can’t stop thinking about it. Also KC is so screwed now too ugh. Feels like it was all for nothing.
That's what I said at the end - way to go - you just helped destroy Kansas City and everyone in it.
I was more or less expecting what happened. If you didn't watch the little episode discussion at the end I highly recommend it. The kid that played Sam is deaf and they had some really nice moments with him and the cast and crew.
What do you mean by "way to go" though? It felt like one of those very moral gray area situations. Like you understand why Melanie Lynskie is pursuing the men who, in turn, got her brother killed and then killed her son. But you also understand why Henry did what he did to save his son, and why Joel did what he did to protect himself and Ellie. Plus the infected were already waking up even aside from all of this happening -- remember when they show Melanie Lynsky how the ground is moving with waking infected underground, and she's like "ok I can't deal with that right now we need to find Henry."
Everyone makes some bad choices and also you can understand why they made those choices in the moment, and also some of those were impossible choices either way. Was Henry supposed to just let his son die? Was Joel supposed to let Ellie die or let himself be shot?
The episode just really highlighted how screwed everyone is. It's a hard watch.
Anonymous
02/12/2023 11:17
Subject: The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)
Anonymous wrote:Agree, I can’t stop thinking about it. Also KC is so screwed now too ugh. Feels like it was all for nothing.
That's what I said at the end - way to go - you just helped destroy Kansas City and everyone in it.
I was more or less expecting what happened. If you didn't watch the little episode discussion at the end I highly recommend it. The kid that played Sam is deaf and they had some really nice moments with him and the cast and crew.
Anonymous
02/11/2023 19:43
Subject: The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)
Agree, I can’t stop thinking about it. Also KC is so screwed now too ugh. Feels like it was all for nothing.
Anonymous
02/11/2023 18:55
Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Uuuuuuuuuugh, tonight’s episode was STRESSFUL.
)don’t forget they released it early)
It was brutal, feeling traumatized!
So well done, even though I knew what would happen due to the game.
Anonymous
02/11/2023 08:47
Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Uuuuuuuuuugh, tonight’s episode was STRESSFUL.
)don’t forget they released it early)
Stressful and sad
may be a hot take, but that was one of the saddest scenes of television i have ever seen.
+1
+2 when someone is deeply traumatized and lost their primary mission in life.
Anonymous
02/11/2023 08:27
Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Uuuuuuuuuugh, tonight’s episode was STRESSFUL.
)don’t forget they released it early)
Stressful and sad
may be a hot take, but that was one of the saddest scenes of television i have ever seen.
+1