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Anonymous wrote:There is no scenario where it was ok for the grandparents to yell at an 8yo who was trying to help.

Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “

Yup, and you took the one line that used the word “yelled” without the context of the rest of the novel
OP (or you) wrote. You still haven’t addressed the point made several times that the kid never talked to grandpa, so how could he have “yelled” at the kid? And knowing that grandpa never spoke to the kid, it makes the throwaway line that “my parents yelled at him” worthless because we know that can’t be true since the kid never talked to grandpa. See how that works?

Quoting the OP - in her own words - is not misrepresenting anything. It’s not my fault that you didn’t read the whole post.

They were all talking to each other over text and FaceTime. OP said they yelled. If you don’t believe her then why engage on this thread.

OP never said that her call with her dad where he asked that the 8 year old just stop occurred over FaceTime, in fact she made a point to say that he called from her mom’s phone. The only reference to FaceTime was the 8 year old FaceTiming grandma.

OP, I have empathy for your situation. It’s disappointing when holiday plans don’t work out, especially as the last three holiday seasons have been very difficult for travel and gatherings for various reasons. It’s ok to be in your feelings that your parents don’t want to accept the travel solutions that you feel are reasonable.

However, it’s also ok for your parents to be stressed about traveling and busy at work. I’ve definitely turned down “good” opportunities for things like travel or concerts because making the logistics work for me at that particular time was just too challenging. It’s a value judgement that’s personal. No one can convince anyone else to prioritize things in the same way they do. When someone gives you a boundary, don’t hound them for reasons and provide item-by-item refutation (airport, costs, etc.). Just let people tell you “no” and respect their decision. You don’t have to like it, but the best way of showing love and trust is to let other adults make the decisions that work for them.

Regarding your son, address his concerns: “I’m sorry you’re disappointed that your grandparents aren’t coming; I understand that it felt crummy to be scolded by your grandmother, and she could have been gentler in her approach; though you were trying to be helpful, and your motivations came from a good place, sometimes it’s confusing and stressful when too many people are trying to contact each other by text and call at the same time. Let the adults manage things, and we will let you know if we want your help.”

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Anonymous wrote:There is no scenario where it was ok for the grandparents to yell at an 8yo who was trying to help.

Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “

Yup, and you took the one line that used the word “yelled” without the context of the rest of the novel
OP (or you) wrote. You still haven’t addressed the point made several times that the kid never talked to grandpa, so how could he have “yelled” at the kid? And knowing that grandpa never spoke to the kid, it makes the throwaway line that “my parents yelled at him” worthless because we know that can’t be true since the kid never talked to grandpa. See how that works?

Quoting the OP - in her own words - is not misrepresenting anything. It’s not my fault that you didn’t read the whole post.

They were all talking to each other over text and FaceTime. OP said they yelled. If you don’t believe her then why engage on this thread.

Nope, even taking the OPs words in that one line verbatim it wasn’t that they yelled generally, it was that they “yelled at him” meaning the kid. The kid never talked to grandpa, so grandpa couldn’t have yelled at him.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no scenario where it was ok for the grandparents to yell at an 8yo who was trying to help.

Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “

Yup, and you took the one line that used the word “yelled” without the context of the rest of the novel
OP (or you) wrote. You still haven’t addressed the point made several times that the kid never talked to grandpa, so how could he have “yelled” at the kid? And knowing that grandpa never spoke to the kid, it makes the throwaway line that “my parents yelled at him” worthless because we know that can’t be true since the kid never talked to grandpa. See how that works?

Quoting the OP - in her own words - is not misrepresenting anything. It’s not my fault that you didn’t read the whole post.

They were all talking to each other over text and FaceTime. OP said they yelled. If you don’t believe her then why engage on this thread.

OP was also quoted as saying her dad never talked to the kid. So which is it? You're basing your entire defense of OP on something she provided no details on only to say that the DS is upset about yelling that was never described? You're really desperate to believe a narrative that isn't there.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you’ve manufactured all this drama, and I, not supervised your parents called you out. It’s unfortunate you put your kid in the middle with your attempt at manipulating the situation, now you’re trying to manipulate this thread to validate yourself.

Your dad had a trial, so your parents weren’t falling all over themselves to come visit you, like they probably usually do. YOU did decide to go on vacation instead, and now want them to endure any convenience to come see you,maven though your father is just off trial.

Playing your kid by giving him point info, etc. is really controlling. Talk to your parents directly. They don’t want to have to endure layovers, etc., which is understandable. So yes, “stop”. There was no yelling, you’re just letting people extrapolate the story to fit your needs.

Interesting narrative you’ve created. Perhaps drawing upon elements in your own life?

Nope, but your snarky attempt to turn the tables says a lot!

Why are you fabricating this narrative? Just to tear down OP? Gross.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no scenario where it was ok for the grandparents to yell at an 8yo who was trying to help.

Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “

Yup, and you took the one line that used the word “yelled” without the context of the rest of the novel
OP (or you) wrote. You still haven’t addressed the point made several times that the kid never talked to grandpa, so how could he have “yelled” at the kid? And knowing that grandpa never spoke to the kid, it makes the throwaway line that “my parents yelled at him” worthless because we know that can’t be true since the kid never talked to grandpa. See how that works?

Quoting the OP - in her own words - is not misrepresenting anything. It’s not my fault that you didn’t read the whole post.

They were all talking to each other over text and FaceTime. OP said they yelled. If you don’t believe her then why engage on this thread.

I didn’t read any of the replies but the original post was 9.5/10, possibly the best one of the DCUM holiday season. Just believable enough, just long and complicated enough. I loled, I eyerolled, it’s a winner.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you’ve manufactured all this drama, and I, not supervised your parents called you out. It’s unfortunate you put your kid in the middle with your attempt at manipulating the situation, now you’re trying to manipulate this thread to validate yourself.

Your dad had a trial, so your parents weren’t falling all over themselves to come visit you, like they probably usually do. YOU did decide to go on vacation instead, and now want them to endure any convenience to come see you,maven though your father is just off trial.

Playing your kid by giving him point info, etc. is really controlling. Talk to your parents directly. They don’t want to have to endure layovers, etc., which is understandable. So yes, “stop”. There was no yelling, you’re just letting people extrapolate the story to fit your needs.

Interesting narrative you’ve created. Perhaps drawing upon elements in your own life?

Nope, but your snarky attempt to turn the tables says a lot!

I don’t understand why the child, who can not actually help with anything, was put in the middle of all of this. Tell the kid the adults are busy working out travel plans and leave it at that.

It sounds like your parents were stressed out about the flight cancelation and didn’t want to figure out an alternative plan. Constant calls from the whole family, including children, sounds like a nightmare to deal with

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Anonymous wrote:There is no scenario where it was ok for the grandparents to yell at an 8yo who was trying to help.

Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “

Yup, and you took the one line that used the word “yelled” without the context of the rest of the novel
OP (or you) wrote. You still haven’t addressed the point made several times that the kid never talked to grandpa, so how could he have “yelled” at the kid? And knowing that grandpa never spoke to the kid, it makes the throwaway line that “my parents yelled at him” worthless because we know that can’t be true since the kid never talked to grandpa. See how that works?

Feels very inappropriate to involve your 8 year old. That’s a very manipulative thing to do and not good for the child.

Anonymous wrote:OP, you’ve manufactured all this drama, and I, not supervised your parents called you out. It’s unfortunate you put your kid in the middle with your attempt at manipulating the situation, now you’re trying to manipulate this thread to validate yourself.

Your dad had a trial, so your parents weren’t falling all over themselves to come visit you, like they probably usually do. YOU did decide to go on vacation instead, and now want them to endure any convenience to come see you,maven though your father is just off trial.

Playing your kid by giving him point info, etc. is really controlling. Talk to your parents directly. They don’t want to have to endure layovers, etc., which is understandable. So yes, “stop”. There was no yelling, you’re just letting people extrapolate the story to fit your needs.

Interesting narrative you’ve created. Perhaps drawing upon elements in your own life?

OP was sitting in the family bed and heard the entire conversation between son and grandma. Why else would she have direct quotes? None of the excruciating details unnecessarily described included any yelling, nor was raised voices even mentioned. Not only that, grandpa never spoke to son directly. Nobody yelled, the kid is just disappointed his grandparents can't come no matter how much "help" he tried to provide or how much his parents pushing him to get involved. He took the bad news and lecture and heard "yelling" as 8 year olds often do.

OP, you’ve manufactured all this drama, and I, not supervised your parents called you out. It’s unfortunate you put your kid in the middle with your attempt at manipulating the situation, now you’re trying to manipulate this thread to validate yourself.

Your dad had a trial, so your parents weren’t falling all over themselves to come visit you, like they probably usually do. YOU did decide to go on vacation instead, and now want them to endure any convenience to come see you,maven though your father is just off trial.

Playing your kid by giving him point info, etc. is really controlling. Talk to your parents directly. They don’t want to have to endure layovers, etc., which is understandable. So yes, “stop”. There was no yelling, you’re just letting people extrapolate the story to fit your needs.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no scenario where it was ok for the grandparents to yell at an 8yo who was trying to help.

Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “