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Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

You think they should just leave young kids home alone?

You don't go, you have someone else watch the child, you go in for only needed items like medication or have it delivered. Or, have someone else get it for you.

A lot of people don't have a support network of people waiting to watch their sick kids or do their shopping for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

You think they should just leave young kids home alone?

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

NP. Pandemics, by their nature, are not "fair". They suck and they are tough to live through. There is a lot of collateral damage going on right now between sicker than normal school children, people in their 20s-40s having higher rates of cardiac arrest, and a high mortality rate for seniors. As someone who doesn't post about it but does still think it's a threat to the general population, it appears that you are annoyed by being reminded of that. I haven't eaten inside in three years, nor have my kids, but I'm not pointing fingers at my friends who have. But I do think that now during this triple-demic winter is a good time for many people to take measures to decrease viral spread - RSV, flu, and Covid are all surging. There is a lot of suffering going on, and it's obvious from just reading this topic daily. We all live in a society. I'm not here to demonize anyone, but at the same time you have to appreciate the burden on healthcare workers and do what you can from time to time to help them out. As viruses ebb and flow, we have to pivot. There is no steady state that "covid is over".

NP. Your kids don’t go to school?

Yes, they go in person. They eat outside.

What kind of school do they attend? I haven’t heard of any schools continuing with outdoor lunch, especially in mid-December.

Public school. Middle school has outdoor balcony off lunch room and elementary kid gets pulled out every day. I don't love having to do it, but I feel strongly about avoiding infection.

PP here. Thanks for responding, I didn’t realize that was still an option.

No problem - thanks for not attacking me. I guess other's feel the need to do so, but I'm used to it.

More martyr nonsense. Yawn.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC. Masks don’t do squat. There wasn’t some major breakthrough in 2020 that proved they worked. If they did, why haven’t we been wearing them for centuries???

We are human. We need to see each other’s faces. If you look at your fellow people as disease vectors, you are a sad, sad, person.

But fine. Keep playing pandemic and living in your dystopian fantasy. Don’t force this crap on others.

Clearly you take it personally.

Yeah. I do. I don’t want to live in a faceless society. But I guess you do. I’m not interested in playing out your Handmaids Tale fantasy. Unlike you, I like seeing others faces and smiles.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many are hypochondriacs who don’t understand basic math or statistics or what actually supports good health (such as exercising, diet, being outside, social connections, etc)

Many are fat and out of shape. They might drink alcohol regularly or be on prescription medication. This is all much more dangerous to the health of a non-elderly person than Covid. I find it strange.

Actually a lot of previously healthy people now have long Covid, and many people are also disabled from it. I'm not on social media posting about precautions, but it's frustrating when people act like Covid is nothing.

It's interesting- I personally know dozens of people who have had Covid, but I don't know a single person who has long Covid. When I hear people say that long Covid is common, I just don't see it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm at the live and let live phase of this. I don't understand people playing with their long term health, but I also realize people draw different conclusions and public health messaging has not exactly been stellar. I'm not posting any warnings to people, and only ever discuss it on this health board from time to time. I know people judge my family for masking, but oh well, it's not like I'm going to change because of them.

I do hope we get 2nd gen vaccines that are more sterilizing or that this liver drug touted by Univ of Cambridge and used off brand actually can help prevent the disease. I'd love to get back to some old ways of life, but fully acknowledge it's not all going to be like it was. Climate change means more dramatic life changes and sadly, pandemics, so I'm trying to teach my kids resiliency, kindness, and most of all to love life and being a kid as much as possible.

What does it mean to you for a person to be "playing with their long-term health"?

One could argue anyone who gets into a car is "playing with death". It's all a risk-benefit calculation. If it's masks you're concerned with, wearing a mask is a different experience for different people. I buy that some people truly aren't bothered by them. They are really uncomfortable for me, and I know for many people. I'm willing to and do wear one in limited situations, but not for a full day of work.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC. Masks don’t do squat. There wasn’t some major breakthrough in 2020 that proved they worked. If they did, why haven’t we been wearing them for centuries???

We are human. We need to see each other’s faces. If you look at your fellow people as disease vectors, you are a sad, sad, person.

But fine. Keep playing pandemic and living in your dystopian fantasy. Don’t force this crap on others.

Clearly you take it personally.

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Anonymous wrote:What do expect people to do?
- Is it just about getting people to get a booster?
- wear a mask indefinitely (in which settings? A full day at school/work? Just the grocery store?)
- avoid any "optional" indoor social activities?
- Pull children out from in-person school/daycare?

It's virtue signaling. They've made their personality about COVID and can't let it go. They just love to prove to everyone that they're such a great person by wearing a mask and avoiding crowds!

Thankfully, I don't see anyone on my FB feed going on and on about COVID. I haven't seen anything from my friends on COVID in months. It's just here on DCUM where I see the hand wringing. IRL, I don't know anyone who cares about this anymore.

At this point it seems to be mostly this. And the specific ppl I know who do this had some anxiety and attention-seekimg tendencies pre-Covid.

I am actually pretty cautious myself but I don't post about it on FB etc. Mostly bc I know nobody cares about my opinion of how they should conduct their lives, ha.

I see there is a PP who is a HCW and I did have one HCW friend who feels similarly that ppl take these gratuitous risks and then HCWs bear the burden of overcrowded hospitals, extra shifts etc and it's exhausting and unfair and sucks. Which totally makes sense. But I haven't seen any HCWs I personally know posting about it on FB etc anymore. Seems more like ppl without much else going on.

OP here. Yes, this is the thing. Why do people feel they need to make pronouncements about what public health measures everyone else should be taking? That is what public health officials are for, and if you don't like what they are saying, take it up with them. Everyone knows about COVID. We've all made our choices, whether you like them or not. We have our reasons, some good, some bad. Random posts on social media are not going to change anyone's behavior.

Why don’t you consider why this actually bothers you? If you’re secure in your behavior, you shouldn’t care what someone else posts on SM about COVID precautions.

Hit the unfollow button and keep it moving.

Sorry you don't think I should have posted about it. Why did you click on the thread if you think this topic is so silly? Stop posting here and keep it moving.

Nope. See I’m commenting on an actual post. Which is what you should be doing to the ones that bother you. Instead you run to another site and start a complaint thread.

Looks like I hit the nail on the head though that people are commenting on things you’re actually not secure about.

Sounds to me like you are pushing made up rules about who can post what on DCUM because you are bothered by what I posted. Where do your insecurities come from?

This is rich. You made a post complaining about what someone else posts on SM. Then proceed to complain when others comment on your post here. This isn’t an echo chamber so you’re going to have to deal with other people posting here.

You can post all you want but making up rules to suggest I should not have posted in the first place is a dumb non-argument. Sorry you don't like getting called out.

I love your double standards. You’ve been trying to push others of the thread because you don’t like their feedback. It’s ok for you, right?

What is your specific feedback? So far all I can gather is that you don't think I'm allowed to comment on a trend I've seen on numerous social media sites, on this particular site.

You should discuss your COVID issues with the person that you have the issue with.

So you don't have any actual feedback apart from that you don't like that I posted about this issue here. Thanks.

LOL. Your feedback is to discuss the issue with the person you are mad at. Why are you so scared to do that?

Do you tell everyone in your life exactly what you think? WTF is the point of an anonymous forum if not to vent about things we can't speak publicly about? Especially about COVID precautions in the DMV, the place where anyone who doesn't want to mask their 2 yo is a "Trumper".

Why are you so against covid precautions? Why does it matter to you if someone masks? Why do you need to bully others into not masking? Trump is long gone. Biden is to blame now.

I'm not bullying anyone into not masking lol. That's the tell you are a troll byeeee. Better luck next time.

What's the point of this thread?

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Anonymous wrote:What do expect people to do?
- Is it just about getting people to get a booster?
- wear a mask indefinitely (in which settings? A full day at school/work? Just the grocery store?)
- avoid any "optional" indoor social activities?
- Pull children out from in-person school/daycare?

It's virtue signaling. They've made their personality about COVID and can't let it go. They just love to prove to everyone that they're such a great person by wearing a mask and avoiding crowds!

Thankfully, I don't see anyone on my FB feed going on and on about COVID. I haven't seen anything from my friends on COVID in months. It's just here on DCUM where I see the hand wringing. IRL, I don't know anyone who cares about this anymore.

At this point it seems to be mostly this. And the specific ppl I know who do this had some anxiety and attention-seekimg tendencies pre-Covid.

I am actually pretty cautious myself but I don't post about it on FB etc. Mostly bc I know nobody cares about my opinion of how they should conduct their lives, ha.

I see there is a PP who is a HCW and I did have one HCW friend who feels similarly that ppl take these gratuitous risks and then HCWs bear the burden of overcrowded hospitals, extra shifts etc and it's exhausting and unfair and sucks. Which totally makes sense. But I haven't seen any HCWs I personally know posting about it on FB etc anymore. Seems more like ppl without much else going on.

OP here. Yes, this is the thing. Why do people feel they need to make pronouncements about what public health measures everyone else should be taking? That is what public health officials are for, and if you don't like what they are saying, take it up with them. Everyone knows about COVID. We've all made our choices, whether you like them or not. We have our reasons, some good, some bad. Random posts on social media are not going to change anyone's behavior.

Why don’t you consider why this actually bothers you? If you’re secure in your behavior, you shouldn’t care what someone else posts on SM about COVID precautions.

Hit the unfollow button and keep it moving.

Sorry you don't think I should have posted about it. Why did you click on the thread if you think this topic is so silly? Stop posting here and keep it moving.

Nope. See I’m commenting on an actual post. Which is what you should be doing to the ones that bother you. Instead you run to another site and start a complaint thread.

Looks like I hit the nail on the head though that people are commenting on things you’re actually not secure about.

Sounds to me like you are pushing made up rules about who can post what on DCUM because you are bothered by what I posted. Where do your insecurities come from?

This is rich. You made a post complaining about what someone else posts on SM. Then proceed to complain when others comment on your post here. This isn’t an echo chamber so you’re going to have to deal with other people posting here.

You can post all you want but making up rules to suggest I should not have posted in the first place is a dumb non-argument. Sorry you don't like getting called out.

I love your double standards. You’ve been trying to push others of the thread because you don’t like their feedback. It’s ok for you, right?

What is your specific feedback? So far all I can gather is that you don't think I'm allowed to comment on a trend I've seen on numerous social media sites, on this particular site.

You should discuss your COVID issues with the person that you have the issue with.

So you don't have any actual feedback apart from that you don't like that I posted about this issue here. Thanks.

Anonymous wrote:JFC. Masks don’t do squat. There wasn’t some major breakthrough in 2020 that proved they worked. If they did, why haven’t we been wearing them for centuries???

We are human. We need to see each other’s faces. If you look at your fellow people as disease vectors, you are a sad, sad, person.

But fine. Keep playing pandemic and living in your dystopian fantasy. Don’t force this crap on others.

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Anonymous wrote:also, yes kids can eat outside. I know our school has outdoor seating still open. Kids are just grabbing coats. My kid eats outside because it's quieter! But it's nice that a kid can eat outside for any reason they want without having to explain to people.

Exactly. How low have we sunk when we politicize humans eating outside? It's bonkers. The same people calling the Covid cautious fat, unhealthy, pill addled, and lacking outdoor time are triggered by....kids eating outside. Great logic model.

Anyone who is judging kids for eating outside is dumb. But you don't actually know these are the "same people". Lumping everyone you disagree with into one person is not a great way to achieve civil discourse.

They need to bully others into thinking and behaving like them to justify their lack of concern.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

We've made it so much worse for kids. It is now acceptable for very sick kids to stay at school, ensuring healthy kids get it too. It's madness. Schools are having to call some parents multiple times to take their kids home. The lack of sick leave is a massive issue, but this is not okay either.

You're misremembering the past. It's always been common for kids to go to school with colds. That didn't change with the pandemic. If anything, the change is that some people are much more sensitive to seeing kids with cold-like symptoms than they were before the pandemic. Things are starting to go more back to normal.

No, I am not misremembering. I'm not talking colds - these are serious respiratory viruses with painful coughs. This theory that we are all more sensitive is bogus - I worked in a school for years pre-Covid.

Coughs can sound nasty even when the individual isn’t particularly ill. That that is your go-to example tells me you don’t remember the days before the pandemic. I know a school nurse that is regularly sending kids back to class when their hysterical teachers are trying to get them sent home over nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

NP. Pandemics, by their nature, are not "fair". They suck and they are tough to live through. There is a lot of collateral damage going on right now between sicker than normal school children, people in their 20s-40s having higher rates of cardiac arrest, and a high mortality rate for seniors. As someone who doesn't post about it but does still think it's a threat to the general population, it appears that you are annoyed by being reminded of that. I haven't eaten inside in three years, nor have my kids, but I'm not pointing fingers at my friends who have. But I do think that now during this triple-demic winter is a good time for many people to take measures to decrease viral spread - RSV, flu, and Covid are all surging. There is a lot of suffering going on, and it's obvious from just reading this topic daily. We all live in a society. I'm not here to demonize anyone, but at the same time you have to appreciate the burden on healthcare workers and do what you can from time to time to help them out. As viruses ebb and flow, we have to pivot. There is no steady state that "covid is over".

NP. Your kids don’t go to school?

Yes, they go in person. They eat outside.

What kind of school do they attend? I haven’t heard of any schools continuing with outdoor lunch, especially in mid-December.

Public school. Middle school has outdoor balcony off lunch room and elementary kid gets pulled out every day. I don't love having to do it, but I feel strongly about avoiding infection.

PP here. Thanks for responding, I didn’t realize that was still an option.

No problem - thanks for not attacking me. I guess other's feel the need to do so, but I'm used to it.

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- Is it just about getting people to get a booster?
- wear a mask indefinitely (in which settings? A full day at school/work? Just the grocery store?)
- avoid any "optional" indoor social activities?
- Pull children out from in-person school/daycare?

It's virtue signaling. They've made their personality about COVID and can't let it go. They just love to prove to everyone that they're such a great person by wearing a mask and avoiding crowds!

Thankfully, I don't see anyone on my FB feed going on and on about COVID. I haven't seen anything from my friends on COVID in months. It's just here on DCUM where I see the hand wringing. IRL, I don't know anyone who cares about this anymore.

At this point it seems to be mostly this. And the specific ppl I know who do this had some anxiety and attention-seekimg tendencies pre-Covid.

I am actually pretty cautious myself but I don't post about it on FB etc. Mostly bc I know nobody cares about my opinion of how they should conduct their lives, ha.

I see there is a PP who is a HCW and I did have one HCW friend who feels similarly that ppl take these gratuitous risks and then HCWs bear the burden of overcrowded hospitals, extra shifts etc and it's exhausting and unfair and sucks. Which totally makes sense. But I haven't seen any HCWs I personally know posting about it on FB etc anymore. Seems more like ppl without much else going on.

OP here. Yes, this is the thing. Why do people feel they need to make pronouncements about what public health measures everyone else should be taking? That is what public health officials are for, and if you don't like what they are saying, take it up with them. Everyone knows about COVID. We've all made our choices, whether you like them or not. We have our reasons, some good, some bad. Random posts on social media are not going to change anyone's behavior.

Why don’t you consider why this actually bothers you? If you’re secure in your behavior, you shouldn’t care what someone else posts on SM about COVID precautions.

Hit the unfollow button and keep it moving.

Sorry you don't think I should have posted about it. Why did you click on the thread if you think this topic is so silly? Stop posting here and keep it moving.

Why ar you posting this? Why do you care if others are cautious? It does not impact you in any way. B

Why are you posting here? This thread does not impact you in any way.