Anonymous wrote:As an fyi, there is some decent medical evidence that very late fertility is associated with the genes for super longevity. So if you have women in your family that are living to their late 90s and 100+., be careful!
Looking back at my family history, I was really surprised how many women lived to late 80s or early 90s even with no medical care in the 19th century. And we have a strong history of unplanned pregnancy in our 40s.

This is my mom”/ side of the family and yep, I did have an accidental pregnancy at 44…
Also, we get our periods in our late teens, which my OB explained shifts the end of fertility to later ages than the typical 42-45.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? As long as they're happy, I'm happy for them. I don't care what story they want to put out there about conception. It's their business.

+1 Why would this drive you crazy, OP?

Because it gives young woman false hopes. And the wrong medical information.

+1. It’s literally disinformation, with truly devastating consequences.

As someone who got accidentally pregnant at 44 after just one careless night in my life, I can attest that the opposite misinformation - how women over 35/40 are more or less infertile - can be just as devastating. My OB shared with me that the largest amount of early-term medical abortions that her office performs is on women who are already moms and over the age of 35....

44 is not 48. I’ve yet to see a single person on here say they got naturally or accidentally pregnant at 48.

I haven't but I know people who had accidental pregnancies at 46 and 47 so 48 does not sound farfetched to me. Also, I know of women back a couple generations or more in my family who had many kids, the last of whom were conceived in their mid to late 40s. Those women didn't have access to IVF. Back then, people would talk about advanced maternal age but there was less judgment because generally it was women who were already mothers (so not becoming mothers for the first time at 45 or 46) and also with safe abortion so much less available to most women and women having far fewer choices when it came to life choices, people found it less objectionable than they do now.

The thing that makes people angry about older mothers now is their choice to wait to have children. It's viewed as unnatural not because conception at an older age is unheard of but because these are women who have chosen to delay motherhood for whatever reason. Many people are deeply uncomfortable with the idea of women having that kind of agency over motherhood.

Anonymous wrote:As an fyi, there is some decent medical evidence that very late fertility is associated with the genes for super longevity. So if you have women in your family that are living to their late 90s and 100+., be careful!
Looking back at my family history, I was really surprised how many women lived to late 80s or early 90s even with no medical care in the 19th century. And we have a strong history of unplanned pregnancy in our 40s.

Interesting. The women on both sides of my family live to over 100, generally. My maternal grandmother died "too young" at 89 (her mom made it to 107). She had her two kids in the 50s, my uncle when she was 44 and my mom at 46.

As an fyi, there is some decent medical evidence that very late fertility is associated with the genes for super longevity. So if you have women in your family that are living to their late 90s and 100+., be careful!
Looking back at my family history, I was really surprised how many women lived to late 80s or early 90s even with no medical care in the 19th century. And we have a strong history of unplanned pregnancy in our 40s.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? As long as they're happy, I'm happy for them. I don't care what story they want to put out there about conception. It's their business.

+1 Why would this drive you crazy, OP?

Because it gives young woman false hopes. And the wrong medical information.

+1. It’s literally disinformation, with truly devastating consequences.

As someone who got accidentally pregnant at 44 after just one careless night in my life, I can attest that the opposite misinformation - how women over 35/40 are more or less infertile - can be just as devastating. My OB shared with me that the largest amount of early-term medical abortions that her office performs is on women who are already moms and over the age of 35....

44 is not 48. I’ve yet to see a single person on here say they got naturally or accidentally pregnant at 48.

np My sister did and she has a healthy 11 year old today! She says her kid keeps her young.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? As long as they're happy, I'm happy for them. I don't care what story they want to put out there about conception. It's their business.

+1 Why would this drive you crazy, OP?

Because it gives young woman false hopes. And the wrong medical information.

+1. It’s literally disinformation, with truly devastating consequences.

As someone who got accidentally pregnant at 44 after just one careless night in my life, I can attest that the opposite misinformation - how women over 35/40 are more or less infertile - can be just as devastating. My OB shared with me that the largest amount of early-term medical abortions that her office performs is on women who are already moms and over the age of 35....

44 is not 48. I’ve yet to see a single person on here say they got naturally or accidentally pregnant at 48.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? As long as they're happy, I'm happy for them. I don't care what story they want to put out there about conception. It's their business.

+1 Why would this drive you crazy, OP?

Because it gives young woman false hopes. And the wrong medical information.

+1. It’s literally disinformation, with truly devastating consequences.

As someone who got accidentally pregnant at 44 after just one careless night in my life, I can attest that the opposite misinformation - how women over 35/40 are more or less infertile - can be just as devastating. My OB shared with me that the largest amount of early-term medical abortions that her office performs is on women who are already moms and over the age of 35....

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Imagine believing this. It's selfish, gross, and an extremely dangerous pregnancy. Why not fess up and admit you sacrificed your childbearing years for money and fame. Why not be transparent on how hard it's been to get pregnant naturally after you turn 30 let alone 35. Why not be open about anything past age 35 is a geriatric pregnancy. Playing pretend does nothing but promote a lie to harm other younger women who think they can wait.

Say what?

The vast majority of women under the age of 40 (yes, that is 4-0, forty, 40) who try to get pregnant will be pregnant within a year.

Of course, if you're one of the exceptions, it can be tremendously painful. I get that.

This. Doctors have scared the beejesus out of women about not having a baby by 35 while not talking enough about old men's sperm and the role it plays in neuro issues.

That we all know a lot of women who have had babies after 35 seems to suggest women aren't really scared. Many are even putting it off until their 40s because of stories like this. But there's a reason fertility clinics are so profitable and busy. Plenty of women aren't getting pregnant that easily at any age, but especially in their 40s.

Look, if there were fertility clinics 100 years ago they would have been busy even when everyone got married at 20. Look back at your family tree—everyone had childless aunts in every generation. Some adopted from orphanages, and others were just loving aunties. Look at king Henry viii — his wives were plenty young and all had fertility problems (maybe his). There is now just much more of an expectation that every woman is going to be able to bear her own babies—that really wasn’t true in the course of human history and it wasn’t because of delayed childbirth. I think a lot of women end up with unexpected pregnancies in their late 30s and 40s because they assume it would take a minor miracle for them to get pregnant so they figure they can roll the dice once or twice. The media has way overstated the effects of age.

This, 100%. And yes, I am one of these women with an unexpected pregnancy in my 40s because I rolled the dice. Once: that's all it took. So from my sample of one , the hysteria about the dramatic drop of fertility over the age of 35 or 40 is just that, hysteria.

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Imagine believing this. It's selfish, gross, and an extremely dangerous pregnancy. Why not fess up and admit you sacrificed your childbearing years for money and fame. Why not be transparent on how hard it's been to get pregnant naturally after you turn 30 let alone 35. Why not be open about anything past age 35 is a geriatric pregnancy. Playing pretend does nothing but promote a lie to harm other younger women who think they can wait.

Say what?

The vast majority of women under the age of 40 (yes, that is 4-0, forty, 40) who try to get pregnant will be pregnant within a year.

Of course, if you're one of the exceptions, it can be tremendously painful. I get that.

This. Doctors have scared the beejesus out of women about not having a baby by 35 while not talking enough about old men's sperm and the role it plays in neuro issues.

That we all know a lot of women who have had babies after 35 seems to suggest women aren't really scared. Many are even putting it off until their 40s because of stories like this. But there's a reason fertility clinics are so profitable and busy. Plenty of women aren't getting pregnant that easily at any age, but especially in their 40s.

Look, if there were fertility clinics 100 years ago they would have been busy even when everyone got married at 20. Look back at your family tree—everyone had childless aunts in every generation. Some adopted from orphanages, and others were just loving aunties. Look at king Henry viii — his wives were plenty young and all had fertility problems (maybe his). There is now just much more of an expectation that every woman is going to be able to bear her own babies—that really wasn’t true in the course of human history and it wasn’t because of delayed childbirth. I think a lot of women end up with unexpected pregnancies in their late 30s and 40s because they assume it would take a minor miracle for them to get pregnant so they figure they can roll the dice once or twice. The media has way overstated the effects of age.

Not sure I get your point. You said everyone is scared. Who is scared? What impact is that supposed fear having? The age of first birth is going up, not down. If people were scared they would be having kids younger and they aren't.

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Imagine believing this. It's selfish, gross, and an extremely dangerous pregnancy. Why not fess up and admit you sacrificed your childbearing years for money and fame. Why not be transparent on how hard it's been to get pregnant naturally after you turn 30 let alone 35. Why not be open about anything past age 35 is a geriatric pregnancy. Playing pretend does nothing but promote a lie to harm other younger women who think they can wait.

Say what?

The vast majority of women under the age of 40 (yes, that is 4-0, forty, 40) who try to get pregnant will be pregnant within a year.

Of course, if you're one of the exceptions, it can be tremendously painful. I get that.

This. Doctors have scared the beejesus out of women about not having a baby by 35 while not talking enough about old men's sperm and the role it plays in neuro issues.

That we all know a lot of women who have had babies after 35 seems to suggest women aren't really scared. Many are even putting it off until their 40s because of stories like this. But there's a reason fertility clinics are so profitable and busy. Plenty of women aren't getting pregnant that easily at any age, but especially in their 40s.

Look, if there were fertility clinics 100 years ago they would have been busy even when everyone got married at 20. Look back at your family tree—everyone had childless aunts in every generation. Some adopted from orphanages, and others were just loving aunties. Look at king Henry viii — his wives were plenty young and all had fertility problems (maybe his). There is now just much more of an expectation that every woman is going to be able to bear her own babies—that really wasn’t true in the course of human history and it wasn’t because of delayed childbirth. I think a lot of women end up with unexpected pregnancies in their late 30s and 40s because they assume it would take a minor miracle for them to get pregnant so they figure they can roll the dice once or twice. The media has way overstated the effects of age.

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Imagine believing this. It's selfish, gross, and an extremely dangerous pregnancy. Why not fess up and admit you sacrificed your childbearing years for money and fame. Why not be transparent on how hard it's been to get pregnant naturally after you turn 30 let alone 35. Why not be open about anything past age 35 is a geriatric pregnancy. Playing pretend does nothing but promote a lie to harm other younger women who think they can wait.

Say what?

The vast majority of women under the age of 40 (yes, that is 4-0, forty, 40) who try to get pregnant will be pregnant within a year.

Of course, if you're one of the exceptions, it can be tremendously painful. I get that.

This. Doctors have scared the beejesus out of women about not having a baby by 35 while not talking enough about old men's sperm and the role it plays in neuro issues.

That we all know a lot of women who have had babies after 35 seems to suggest women aren't really scared. Many are even putting it off until their 40s because of stories like this. But there's a reason fertility clinics are so profitable and busy. Plenty of women aren't getting pregnant that easily at any age, but especially in their 40s.

Meh. That's old. It's all fun and games when the kids are not in school yet and hey you're a vigorous 52-year-old, etc. I had rock-hard abs at 59 even 60. But 61 hits like a freight train for some reason.

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Imagine believing this. It's selfish, gross, and an extremely dangerous pregnancy. Why not fess up and admit you sacrificed your childbearing years for money and fame. Why not be transparent on how hard it's been to get pregnant naturally after you turn 30 let alone 35. Why not be open about anything past age 35 is a geriatric pregnancy. Playing pretend does nothing but promote a lie to harm other younger women who think they can wait.

Say what?

The vast majority of women under the age of 40 (yes, that is 4-0, forty, 40) who try to get pregnant will be pregnant within a year.

Of course, if you're one of the exceptions, it can be tremendously painful. I get that.

This. Doctors have scared the beejesus out of women about not having a baby by 35 while not talking enough about old men's sperm and the role it plays in neuro issues.

Anonymous wrote:I saw the Live with Kelly and Ryan clip. I didn’t get the sense she was ever claiming she got pregnant with twins because it runs in her family. I think she was merely making fun conversation about twins. Ryan had asked what twins meant and everyone laughed and she said “two.” Then she said she had some family members who were twins. She said her grandmother was a twin. I think you all are blowing it out of proportion. I think it’s still a miracle to get pregnant at 48 with twins even with IVF and that’s probably how she feels. She’s most likely been trying for years. Leave her alone!

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Anonymous wrote:She may have used her own frozen eggs but it’s almost 100% IVF. It’s a miracle indeed, of modern medicine.

It’s creepy and ungodly. And then we have sad stories shoved down our throat when it goes badly, eg Jimmy Kimmel, Markle, Christy Tiefan.

Do you even know if these people had ivf or are you assuming because they had miscarriages which can literally happen to anyone? Markle has never said she did ivf. And her and Chrissy Tiegan are not so old that it’s a foregone conclusion. I don’t know anything about Jimmy Krimmel.

Chrissy Teigen has been very open about using IVF.