Anonymous
11/21/2022 07:56
Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
If you want to be a good player, there is no doubt you have to be on one of the better programs. This gives the player the opportunity to play with and compete against other good players/teams.
However, travel lacrosse is just one piece of the puzzle. What I learned with my second daughter (more motivated than first), you really need to do way more outside of the club if the girl wants to be really good - Division I good. If that's not the girls goal, totally fine, playing only with her travel team will set her up to be a good high school player. However, if the girl has higher aspirations, you do need to consider strength training, agility training, extra lacrosse sessions with someone that knows what they're talking about, etc. Most travel teams practice once in the fall, maybe twice a week in the Spring then have lulls with no training.
I say this because many think once they are on a "travel" team (many of which are called travel but marginally better than rec. teams - sorry) they think they are on the road to college glory. If your daughter doesn't have a stick in her hand most days of the week, it's hard to compete against the "Blue Bloods" in Maryland and LI that see lacrosse as a way of life. Not trying to sound condescending, just based on daughters experiences and my own observations.
However, travel lacrosse is just one piece of the puzzle. What I learned with my second daughter (more motivated than first), you really need to do way more outside of the club if the girl wants to be really good - Division I good. If that's not the girls goal, totally fine, playing only with her travel team will set her up to be a good high school player. However, if the girl has higher aspirations, you do need to consider strength training, agility training, extra lacrosse sessions with someone that knows what they're talking about, etc. Most travel teams practice once in the fall, maybe twice a week in the Spring then have lulls with no training.
I say this because many think once they are on a "travel" team (many of which are called travel but marginally better than rec. teams - sorry) they think they are on the road to college glory. If your daughter doesn't have a stick in her hand most days of the week, it's hard to compete against the "Blue Bloods" in Maryland and LI that see lacrosse as a way of life. Not trying to sound condescending, just based on daughters experiences and my own observations.
Anonymous
11/21/2022 07:06
Subject: Re:2027 Girls Lacrosse
If the lacrosse pundits on this board are correct their feedback should be alarming to all lax club owners. The belief seems to be clubs have little to no impact on developing players and the strength of teams is simply luck of draw by year and location. This is not a ringing endorsement for parents to spend what amounts to $30-40K+ in lax club plus travel fees over many years of club lacrosse. And this doesn’t even take into consideration the time invested to get to practices and tournaments.
Anonymous
11/21/2022 00:44
Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Pride doesn’t do any more to “develop” players than Stars does. And BLC sure as hell doesn’t. It’s compleyely geographical at younger ages and then a team gels or it doesn’t and kids stick around if it does, so you get a great team. A good coach who truly committs and shows up 100% helps but ultimately it’s luck of the draw as to what local youth teams are the best each year. Pure Luck.
Anonymous
11/20/2022 21:12
Subject: Re:2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fair points made in these comments. Historically Pride has been a primary feeder into Capital. Capital has relied heavily on the talent Pride develops through MS to quickly field competitive HS teams. This has been going on for years, but it seems more recently Pride players are making up a bigger percentage of Capital teams. Pride is clearly developing the talent, Capital is doing a great job of taking this talent and positioning it for college recruiting. Capital has the history, college coach connections, former college players to leverage, and importantly a well-thought out process to get the talent Pride is developing recruited. Both clubs are really helping each other by playing needed roles. What is funny is the Capital parents who come on this board to bash Pride are really biting the hand that feeds Capital. Capital is not developing the talent overnight, this talent is developed over years. Capital is playing the last mile of a long race and does a great job at it. Both clubs need each other, but if Pride ever makes recruiting a priority things may get interesting. Seems like both clubs are happy with the roles they play though.
I don’t think it has anything to do with Pride or Stars or BLC. Maybe it just has something to do with the players and not what club team they join.
Yes. Capital does not recruit teams. They recruit individuals. Just like colleges. It doesn't matter what team you are on. It matters how good YOU are....
Charlotte North was a standout on an average club team from Dallas....DALLAS!
Anonymous
11/20/2022 19:37
Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not surprising you didn’t understand.
The kid matters, not the parent for getting better. A lot of people think their kid is good because they live in the right area and in 3rd grade got put on a team with the best kid in the area. Your kid either has the DNA, work ethic, toughness and resiliency or they do not. Living in the DMV probably means they need to live through something tragic to get the last two.
Mannnnnnn….. Shut Da FUQ Up
Read this back out loud to hear how dumb you sound.
College rosters all over the country filled with girls from the DMV
This is about lacrosse not battling the Nazis in World War 2.
“Living in the DMV probably means they need to live through something tragic to get the last two” Damn kids in the DMV not playing on fields litter with land mines laid down by the third reich - sofffftttttt….
I repeat SHUT DA FUQ UP!!!!
You should read your own post out loud. Honestly you sound un-hinged.
Anonymous
11/20/2022 18:55
Subject: Re:2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I don’t think it has anything to do with Pride or Stars or BLC. Maybe it just has something to do with the players and not what club team they join.
Are you saying the feeder clubs have nothing to do with developing player talent?
Other than goalie coaching (which varies drastically and is easily accessed outside of the clubs), I don't think that the clubs are really doing that much to develop talent.
Anonymous
11/20/2022 16:05
Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Not surprising you didn’t understand.
The kid matters, not the parent for getting better. A lot of people think their kid is good because they live in the right area and in 3rd grade got put on a team with the best kid in the area. Your kid either has the DNA, work ethic, toughness and resiliency or they do not. Living in the DMV probably means they need to live through something tragic to get the last two.
Mannnnnnn….. Shut Da FUQ Up
Read this back out loud to hear how dumb you sound.
College rosters all over the country filled with girls from the DMV
This is about lacrosse not battling the Nazis in World War 2.
“Living in the DMV probably means they need to live through something tragic to get the last two” Damn kids in the DMV not playing on fields litter with land mines laid down by the third reich - sofffftttttt….
I repeat SHUT DA FUQ UP!!!!
Anonymous
11/20/2022 14:03
Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Not surprising you didn’t understand.
The kid matters, not the parent for getting better. A lot of people think their kid is good because they live in the right area and in 3rd grade got put on a team with the best kid in the area. Your kid either has the DNA, work ethic, toughness and resiliency or they do not. Living in the DMV probably means they need to live through something tragic to get the last two.
The kid matters, not the parent for getting better. A lot of people think their kid is good because they live in the right area and in 3rd grade got put on a team with the best kid in the area. Your kid either has the DNA, work ethic, toughness and resiliency or they do not. Living in the DMV probably means they need to live through something tragic to get the last two.
Anonymous
11/20/2022 12:13
Subject: Re:2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I don’t think it has anything to do with Pride or Stars or BLC. Maybe it just has something to do with the players and not what club team they join.
Are you saying the feeder clubs have nothing to do with developing player talent?
The players just develop themselves, didn't you know club makes no difference?
The 27 BLC and Pride teams will have the most representation on 27 Capital blue. Stars will have the lowest number of players of the 3 clubs. It's no coincidence why. The player development isn't there. It does look like Stars has thrown resources at the 27 team but we shall see how that takes shape this spring.
I agree with you that the kids are the kids and they are what they are.
But what are these resources you mention? Bring in a nutritionist or strength coach? I disagree with that. You either have better kids because your geographic area provides that for you (with an exception or two) or your area does not. Pride doesn’t do better than Stars because of Pride, it does so because McLean, Great Falls, Arlington has more, better girls than the Alexandria, Springfield area. BLC is good this year because they kept most of that grades Bethesda’s kids who happen to be good.
Disclaimer- Unlike the BLC parents on this thread who study teenage girls, I don’t know who any of the girls are or where they come from - I’m just assuming and not claiming that I’m an authority on 13 year old girls.
If you have the best kids, your team should win. Coaches might be good for a goal or two in a game but not much more. And I’ll up my hot take, if BLC 2027 is the best of the three it’s probably because they have the best girl of the three on their team. If Pride is better than Stars it’s because Pride’s best player is better than Stars best player. Having better players is what it’s all about. 90 minutes or 180 minutes of practice isn’t turning these girls into UNC light. Only everyday practice, daily film and lifting and someone watching your every move does that. And no, a session a week at Healthy Baller doesn’t do it either.
That’s not really earth shattering. You’re saying the team with the best players should win? Insightful. The better question is how do the better players get good. The previous post explaining their perspective I thought was a good one.
Anonymous
11/20/2022 09:06
Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Agree that the DMV clubs don't so as much as you would think to develop the girls. Endless drills, clinics and scrimmages are better than nothing, but very little is actually taught.
The better girls on every club are the ones that usually have an older sibling that played or a parent that played and really knows the game. They can point out the small things that are never conveyed when playing for their clubs. This is why the Maryland clubs are so good, everyone in Maryland plays or has played previously. It's almost a lifestyle. Throw in that better girls pick up a stick more than others - 4-5X a week and are usually good athletes (big, strong, fast - usually from playing other sports - basketball, soccer). These kids would be good on any club, even the good Maryland ones. Practicing only when your club practices is what most do, but it's not nearly enough.
As for BLC, they are good because they've been together since they were small and had strong female coaches (that played and coach high school) from the start. No Dad that played football growing up trying to figure it out on the fly.
The better girls on every club are the ones that usually have an older sibling that played or a parent that played and really knows the game. They can point out the small things that are never conveyed when playing for their clubs. This is why the Maryland clubs are so good, everyone in Maryland plays or has played previously. It's almost a lifestyle. Throw in that better girls pick up a stick more than others - 4-5X a week and are usually good athletes (big, strong, fast - usually from playing other sports - basketball, soccer). These kids would be good on any club, even the good Maryland ones. Practicing only when your club practices is what most do, but it's not nearly enough.
As for BLC, they are good because they've been together since they were small and had strong female coaches (that played and coach high school) from the start. No Dad that played football growing up trying to figure it out on the fly.
Anonymous
11/20/2022 08:38
Subject: Re:2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I don’t think it has anything to do with Pride or Stars or BLC. Maybe it just has something to do with the players and not what club team they join.
Are you saying the feeder clubs have nothing to do with developing player talent?
The players just develop themselves, didn't you know club makes no difference?
The 27 BLC and Pride teams will have the most representation on 27 Capital blue. Stars will have the lowest number of players of the 3 clubs. It's no coincidence why. The player development isn't there. It does look like Stars has thrown resources at the 27 team but we shall see how that takes shape this spring.
I agree with you that the kids are the kids and they are what they are.
But what are these resources you mention? Bring in a nutritionist or strength coach? I disagree with that. You either have better kids because your geographic area provides that for you (with an exception or two) or your area does not. Pride doesn’t do better than Stars because of Pride, it does so because McLean, Great Falls, Arlington has more, better girls than the Alexandria, Springfield area. BLC is good this year because they kept most of that grades Bethesda’s kids who happen to be good.
Disclaimer- Unlike the BLC parents on this thread who study teenage girls, I don’t know who any of the girls are or where they come from - I’m just assuming and not claiming that I’m an authority on 13 year old girls.
If you have the best kids, your team should win. Coaches might be good for a goal or two in a game but not much more. And I’ll up my hot take, if BLC 2027 is the best of the three it’s probably because they have the best girl of the three on their team. If Pride is better than Stars it’s because Pride’s best player is better than Stars best player. Having better players is what it’s all about. 90 minutes or 180 minutes of practice isn’t turning these girls into UNC light. Only everyday practice, daily film and lifting and someone watching your every move does that. And no, a session a week at Healthy Baller doesn’t do it either.
Anonymous
11/20/2022 07:03
Subject: Re:2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I don’t think it has anything to do with Pride or Stars or BLC. Maybe it just has something to do with the players and not what club team they join.
Are you saying the feeder clubs have nothing to do with developing player talent?
The players just develop themselves, didn't you know club makes no difference?
The 27 BLC and Pride teams will have the most representation on 27 Capital blue. Stars will have the lowest number of players of the 3 clubs. It's no coincidence why. The player development isn't there. It does look like Stars has thrown resources at the 27 team but we shall see how that takes shape this spring.
Anonymous
11/20/2022 01:46
Subject: Re:2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:
I don’t think it has anything to do with Pride or Stars or BLC. Maybe it just has something to do with the players and not what club team they join.
Are you saying the feeder clubs have nothing to do with developing player talent?
Anonymous
11/20/2022 00:05
Subject: Re:2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Fair points made in these comments. Historically Pride has been a primary feeder into Capital. Capital has relied heavily on the talent Pride develops through MS to quickly field competitive HS teams. This has been going on for years, but it seems more recently Pride players are making up a bigger percentage of Capital teams. Pride is clearly developing the talent, Capital is doing a great job of taking this talent and positioning it for college recruiting. Capital has the history, college coach connections, former college players to leverage, and importantly a well-thought out process to get the talent Pride is developing recruited. Both clubs are really helping each other by playing needed roles. What is funny is the Capital parents who come on this board to bash Pride are really biting the hand that feeds Capital. Capital is not developing the talent overnight, this talent is developed over years. Capital is playing the last mile of a long race and does a great job at it. Both clubs need each other, but if Pride ever makes recruiting a priority things may get interesting. Seems like both clubs are happy with the roles they play though.
I don’t think it has anything to do with Pride or Stars or BLC. Maybe it just has something to do with the players and not what club team they join.
Anonymous
11/19/2022 23:44
Subject: Re:2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Bill is not a great coach, he always inherits players so it looks like he is great, but he is not. He just hams it up with the parents and players and pretends to be everyone’s friend.
Mannnnnn……. Shut da FUQ up
Who da FUQ is you?!?!!
Posting real tough in “DC Urban Mom” - would never have the cojones to say something like that to his face.
I’m sure you consistently perform your job year in and year out at the level nationally Bill and Capital do Mr/Ms Anonymous?
Put your name on your comment so folks can judge your ability to coach and get kids recruited - WTF is wrong with you…