Anonymous
11/13/2022 15:32
Subject: When you meet other moms and their kids, what signals upper class?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Full time nanny with a stay at home mom.
Yes, but this is the definition. Where I am if there are two kids and mom works then there are two Nannies. I’ve also seen variations of this- three kids, two Nannie’s, SAHM mom.
I’m a sahm and had a ft nanny with 3 kids. This was not a big deal.
Working mom with multiple nannies does not signal UC to me at all. This signals mom works a lot. I feel UC moms don’t work a lot.
We live in an affluent neighborhood. Most of the moms don’t work. The husbands all must earn seven or eight figures. In many homes, both the husband and wife don’t seem to have real jobs.
I don’t find SAHM mom as a definite indicator of UC. More and more I’m seeing women who have such big careers that it doesn’t make sense for them to stay home; is an entrepreneur, or has been able to secure a profitable WFH or PT arrangement. I think the new trophy wife has interesting work, control over their schedule and enough help to be able to still have hobbies/do fun activities with their kids while outsourcing housework. I encounter these women more and more now, and am impressed by how much they do and how well they do it!
In our circles, there are many highly competent well educated women who gave up their careers to stay home. Sometimes I think I prioritize my kids too much. I absolutely do. Dh and I both love our kids so much. I personally don’t like to outsource childcare.
I plan and want to continue to do great things when my kids are older. Right now I enjoy spending my time with them full time.
Yep, you definitely love them more than any other mother ever has loved her children. No doubt.
Anonymous
11/13/2022 14:58
Subject: When you meet other moms and their kids, what signals upper class?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Full time nanny with a stay at home mom.
Yes, but this is the definition. Where I am if there are two kids and mom works then there are two Nannies. I’ve also seen variations of this- three kids, two Nannie’s, SAHM mom.
I’m a sahm and had a ft nanny with 3 kids. This was not a big deal.
Working mom with multiple nannies does not signal UC to me at all. This signals mom works a lot. I feel UC moms don’t work a lot.
We live in an affluent neighborhood. Most of the moms don’t work. The husbands all must earn seven or eight figures. In many homes, both the husband and wife don’t seem to have real jobs.
I don’t find SAHM mom as a definite indicator of UC. More and more I’m seeing women who have such big careers that it doesn’t make sense for them to stay home; is an entrepreneur, or has been able to secure a profitable WFH or PT arrangement. I think the new trophy wife has interesting work, control over their schedule and enough help to be able to still have hobbies/do fun activities with their kids while outsourcing housework. I encounter these women more and more now, and am impressed by how much they do and how well they do it!
I don’t think men marry to have a trophy wife. They marry to start a family. I met DH when we were in grad school. We fell in love, got married and had a few kids. We decided together that it would be best for our family for me to stay home with the kids.
We know two big career couples. They usually have a nanny or two, some grandparents close by, an au pair or a live in nanny/housekeeper. We are older now and our friends are starting to retire or one half of the power couple usually steps down.
Anonymous
11/13/2022 07:38
Subject: When you meet other moms and their kids, what signals upper class?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Full time nanny with a stay at home mom.
Yes, but this is the definition. Where I am if there are two kids and mom works then there are two Nannies. I’ve also seen variations of this- three kids, two Nannie’s, SAHM mom.
I’m a sahm and had a ft nanny with 3 kids. This was not a big deal.
Working mom with multiple nannies does not signal UC to me at all. This signals mom works a lot. I feel UC moms don’t work a lot.
We live in an affluent neighborhood. Most of the moms don’t work. The husbands all must earn seven or eight figures. In many homes, both the husband and wife don’t seem to have real jobs.
I don’t find SAHM mom as a definite indicator of UC. More and more I’m seeing women who have such big careers that it doesn’t make sense for them to stay home; is an entrepreneur, or has been able to secure a profitable WFH or PT arrangement. I think the new trophy wife has interesting work, control over their schedule and enough help to be able to still have hobbies/do fun activities with their kids while outsourcing housework. I encounter these women more and more now, and am impressed by how much they do and how well they do it!
In our circles, there are many highly competent well educated women who gave up their careers to stay home. Sometimes I think I prioritize my kids too much. I absolutely do. Dh and I both love our kids so much. I personally don’t like to outsource childcare.
I plan and want to continue to do great things when my kids are older. Right now I enjoy spending my time with them full time.
Anonymous
11/12/2022 22:39
Subject: When you meet other moms and their kids, what signals upper class?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Full time nanny with a stay at home mom.
Yes, but this is the definition. Where I am if there are two kids and mom works then there are two Nannies. I’ve also seen variations of this- three kids, two Nannie’s, SAHM mom.
I’m a sahm and had a ft nanny with 3 kids. This was not a big deal.
Working mom with multiple nannies does not signal UC to me at all. This signals mom works a lot. I feel UC moms don’t work a lot.
We live in an affluent neighborhood. Most of the moms don’t work. The husbands all must earn seven or eight figures. In many homes, both the husband and wife don’t seem to have real jobs.
I don’t find SAHM mom as a definite indicator of UC. More and more I’m seeing women who have such big careers that it doesn’t make sense for them to stay home; is an entrepreneur, or has been able to secure a profitable WFH or PT arrangement. I think the new trophy wife has interesting work, control over their schedule and enough help to be able to still have hobbies/do fun activities with their kids while outsourcing housework. I encounter these women more and more now, and am impressed by how much they do and how well they do it!
Anonymous
11/12/2022 22:29
Subject: When you meet other moms and their kids, what signals upper class?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sometimes you root for the COVID and this thread is one of those times.
If some of y’all are not shitposting, you need to find Jesus, read a book, perform a mitzvah. You are insufferable and horrible.
Giant flaming meteor 2024.
I don’t even know what you are saying.
This person needs to go touch grass.
Anonymous
11/12/2022 21:18
Subject: When you meet other moms and their kids, what signals upper class?
Anonymous wrote:Sometimes you root for the COVID and this thread is one of those times.
If some of y’all are not shitposting, you need to find Jesus, read a book, perform a mitzvah. You are insufferable and horrible.
Giant flaming meteor 2024.
I don’t even know what you are saying.
Anonymous
11/12/2022 19:43
Subject: When you meet other moms and their kids, what signals upper class?
Sometimes you root for the COVID and this thread is one of those times.
If some of y’all are not shitposting, you need to find Jesus, read a book, perform a mitzvah. You are insufferable and horrible.
Giant flaming meteor 2024.
If some of y’all are not shitposting, you need to find Jesus, read a book, perform a mitzvah. You are insufferable and horrible.
Giant flaming meteor 2024.
Anonymous
11/12/2022 14:33
Subject: When you meet other moms and their kids, what signals upper class?
I don’t get the people who think that old money is better than new money. It’s better to get rich off the backs of your ancestors, rather than earning it yourself? Whatever.
Anonymous
11/12/2022 13:52
Subject: When you meet other moms and their kids, what signals upper class?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Class is something you're born with and no amount of money can buy.
That is the beauty of America. Even American old money was once an immigrant from another country.
All old money was new money once!
There are some pearl clenching old white ladies that want to believe they are upper class though. I wonder how their husbands and children feel about their upper class birthright.
Dh and I are self made. We were born in other countries, came to the US as young children and worked hard and achieved the American Dream. We are happy and our kids couldn’t be more amazing. We feel accomplished and satisfied.
You can consider us new money.
Anonymous
11/12/2022 12:04
Subject: When you meet other moms and their kids, what signals upper class?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Class is something you're born with and no amount of money can buy.
That is the beauty of America. Even American old money was once an immigrant from another country.
All old money was new money once!
Anonymous
11/12/2022 11:50
Subject: When you meet other moms and their kids, what signals upper class?
Anonymous wrote:Class is something you're born with and no amount of money can buy.
That is the beauty of America. Even American old money was once an immigrant from another country.
Anonymous
11/12/2022 11:16
Subject: When you meet other moms and their kids, what signals upper class?
Class is something you're born with and no amount of money can buy.
Anonymous
11/12/2022 10:49
Subject: When you meet other moms and their kids, what signals upper class?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:6000 sq foot tract house is gauche.
Calling people gauche makes you sound like a pretentious twat. Or a boomer. Six of one…
DP here. Our house is over 10,000sf. I love my home. We live in McLean and our neighborhood has lots of large houses. Lots of politicians, law firms partners, physicians, executives and professional athletes.
Yeah, so just your basic new money situation. Gauche.
We have lots of friends from all different backgrounds. We host great parties. You don’t have to come.
Anonymous
11/12/2022 10:32
Subject: When you meet other moms and their kids, what signals upper class?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:6000 sq foot tract house is gauche.
Calling people gauche makes you sound like a pretentious twat. Or a boomer. Six of one…
DP here. Our house is over 10,000sf. I love my home. We live in McLean and our neighborhood has lots of large houses. Lots of politicians, law firms partners, physicians, executives and professional athletes.
Yeah, so just your basic new money situation. Gauche.
Anonymous
11/12/2022 10:21
Subject: When you meet other moms and their kids, what signals upper class?
Anonymous wrote:I know many, many moms who come from UMC who aren't trim, put together, don't drive nice cars, etc. I find women who come from poorer backgrounds but have made it to the UMC are more apt to cling to outward virtue signaling.
As for kids, I have known some lower middle class kids who are well spoken, confident, insightful vs some UMC children who are bratty, entitled, etc.
I have noticed that it is new money or women from MC or LMC who marry money who love to maintain the UC stereotype and signaling.