Anonymous
Post 06/29/2022 23:43     Subject: Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

When the denizens of UT and CBR were hatching their secret plan to induce - however they induce - Mary Cheh's office and DDOT to hand them their own private street, I very doubt that they expected that their efforts would bring them none other than . . .

BARBARA STREISAND!!!

Performing all day, every day, up and down their silly little streets!

If only our local ATV-riding brethren could be given to holding siren battles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siren_kings) featuring Streisand's greatest hits along these two fine streets. Maybe then, the point would be served?
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2022 21:55     Subject: Re:Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr



This is what Chain Bridge Road needs on every curve.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2022 18:26     Subject: Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arizona is never quicker. But folks didn’t know about the UT shortcut to get to the CBR and then MA or just to get to Garfield/Eskridge to AZ/MA. Now they do and love it, plus get to have fun

Also? The list serve had a raging debate which went silent when dcum picked this up. Ditto the phone noise. That tells me // and I know too // this hit the nerve!

Drive folks drive CBR/UT all the way


Disagree. Google Maps knows. I live nearby and Google Maps will always send me down CBR to get home. But not if I'm going to VA or MD.

UT is only for going to Key school, I can't imagine anyone taking that through as a short cut. The intersection at Dana is no picnic.


Also for parking when going to restaurants on MacArthur.


Good to know
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2022 17:34     Subject: Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arizona is never quicker. But folks didn’t know about the UT shortcut to get to the CBR and then MA or just to get to Garfield/Eskridge to AZ/MA. Now they do and love it, plus get to have fun

Also? The list serve had a raging debate which went silent when dcum picked this up. Ditto the phone noise. That tells me // and I know too // this hit the nerve!

Drive folks drive CBR/UT all the way


Disagree. Google Maps knows. I live nearby and Google Maps will always send me down CBR to get home. But not if I'm going to VA or MD.

UT is only for going to Key school, I can't imagine anyone taking that through as a short cut. The intersection at Dana is no picnic.


Also for parking when going to restaurants on MacArthur.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2022 16:24     Subject: Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

Dana x is a total picnic compared to just about any other in 20016. Come on!
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2022 16:23     Subject: Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

Not true. I live there. But dislike the yucky old head contingent w a passion ($ does not equal being a d$ck)

Drive UT/CBR folks. Time yourselves. It’s faster and even if the same, more pleasant. Plus civil disobedience

What’s not to like?!
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2022 16:14     Subject: Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

Anonymous wrote:Arizona is never quicker. But folks didn’t know about the UT shortcut to get to the CBR and then MA or just to get to Garfield/Eskridge to AZ/MA. Now they do and love it, plus get to have fun

Also? The list serve had a raging debate which went silent when dcum picked this up. Ditto the phone noise. That tells me // and I know too // this hit the nerve!

Drive folks drive CBR/UT all the way


Disagree. Google Maps knows. I live nearby and Google Maps will always send me down CBR to get home. But not if I'm going to VA or MD.

UT is only for going to Key school, I can't imagine anyone taking that through as a short cut. The intersection at Dana is no picnic.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2022 16:11     Subject: Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

“Plane” not phone
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2022 16:10     Subject: Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

Arizona is never quicker. But folks didn’t know about the UT shortcut to get to the CBR and then MA or just to get to Garfield/Eskridge to AZ/MA. Now they do and love it, plus get to have fun

Also? The list serve had a raging debate which went silent when dcum picked this up. Ditto the phone noise. That tells me // and I know too // this hit the nerve!

Drive folks drive CBR/UT all the way
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2022 16:02     Subject: Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It also avoids AZ etc if you want to take the CBP


Uh, no. CBR just dumps you two blocks from AZ on MacArthur. You still have to get through the MacArthur-Arizona intersection. The intersection so bad that if you want to get to Chain Bridge, Google Maps tells you the best way is to go back the other way, cross Key Bridge, take the GW Parkway to Chain Bridge Road (VA) and take Chain Bridge Road back to the Chain Bridge. Because that way you don't have to go through that intersection.

The point is, the road isn't a cut-through. It doesn't take you anywhere useful outside of the neighborhood.


I disagree. These save me a ton of time in avoiding AZ.


Yep? That left from MacArthur to Arizona is often much faster than waiting on the back up on Arizona. Also, if you want to go into the Starbucks or the Wells Fargo for school bus pick up, it's easier to come from MacArthur. Chain Bridge was my cut through for years. Now that teen is driving themself to McLean, I may tell him to cut though on Chain Bridge from time to time, just for fun.


There's about a five block stretch of MacArthur that is quicker to reach from CBR than Arizona. But if you're going out Chain Bridge or Clara Barton Arizona is quicker. It's clear from people's observed preference -- they wait on Arizona rather than go down CBR or University.

The point is, those five blocks of MacArthur aren't in Virginia and they aren't in Maryland. Blaming the CBR traffic on "commuters from Virginia and Maryland" is a misdirection. If people are racing down CBR, most likely they're neighbors. Probably people who live on the street.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2022 15:59     Subject: Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And same thing with the airplane noise. If you don't like it, DON'T BUY A HOUSE IN PALISADES WHERE THERE ARE DCA APPROACHES.


Until they get it changed to fly-over a less affluent neighborhood...


Will never happen. Just don’t

Anonymous
Post 06/28/2022 15:53     Subject: Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gross. Matt Frumin, if you let this happen, you are out, guaranteed

“I live on University and walk dogs routinely. Cars with Virginia and Md plates routinely speed in the street, ignoring parked on both sides, pedestrians and the blind curve. They race through attempting to avoid the stop sign and are often on their phones, not looking who is in front of them. Speed cameras haven’t stopped them. We all complain and whenever a solution is proposed, people fight it. Nothing ever changes. Rain water continues to rush down the street and erode the concrete. I had to install a speed bump at my drive to direct chain bridge runoff from flooding my neighbor. Try going over a big bump every time you come into or leave your house. If you don’t live on the street and see the impact daily, not sure you can comment about your inconvenience. This is about safety. Speeding cars, no sidewalks, no action,


It’s like a big tobacco lobbyist strategy.. just keep the stays quo so no one does anything.”


He's mad about water? Does he think the runoff will obey the local traffic only signs?


The answer to this complaint is traffic calming and sidewalks, not stopping people from going through. I live near a street that has a sign that prohibits traffic in one direction during rush hour in order to try to make it less of a cut through and the cars that I observe ignoring the sign are always the worst offenders when it comes to speeding and blowing stop signs. If you put a sign saying people can't drive through the people who ignore it are not going to stop speeding unless they physically can't


There's not actually a speeding problem. The best solution is to install sidewalks and tell them to eff off with their bullcrap.


+1
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2022 15:52     Subject: Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And same thing with the airplane noise. If you don't like it, DON'T BUY A HOUSE IN PALISADES WHERE THERE ARE DCA APPROACHES.


Until they get it changed to fly-over a less affluent neighborhood...


They’re up against equally rich people in N Arlington and McLean who also have functional local governments on their side. Good luck moving the path, Palisades!


Oh yes.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2022 15:50     Subject: Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gross. Matt Frumin, if you let this happen, you are out, guaranteed

“I live on University and walk dogs routinely. Cars with Virginia and Md plates routinely speed in the street, ignoring parked on both sides, pedestrians and the blind curve. They race through attempting to avoid the stop sign and are often on their phones, not looking who is in front of them. Speed cameras haven’t stopped them. We all complain and whenever a solution is proposed, people fight it. Nothing ever changes. Rain water continues to rush down the street and erode the concrete. I had to install a speed bump at my drive to direct chain bridge runoff from flooding my neighbor. Try going over a big bump every time you come into or leave your house. If you don’t live on the street and see the impact daily, not sure you can comment about your inconvenience. This is about safety. Speeding cars, no sidewalks, no action,


It’s like a big tobacco lobbyist strategy.. just keep the stays quo so no one does anything.”


He's mad about water? Does he think the runoff will obey the local traffic only signs?


Hehehe. That stuff never happened. The water run off and moldy houses did but that’s because they built on DC land so the city can’t do any remedial works
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2022 15:48     Subject: Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

It’s unbecoming of senior citizens