Also add, the Harvard student's speech was so much better as a speech, not even addressing the plagiarism.

Duke looks pretty bad.

Has anyone else gone down the rabbit hole of her linked in? The line in her speech about feeling pressured to over achieve (yet still go out 3 days a week), felt strange.

There is so much on her linked in, one wonders how she finds the time. I can't draw final judgment but it makes me question what these colleges are looking for in kids. It feels like kids need so much to get into top schools, but this lapse in judgment on the speech, makes me wonder what is all there?

Anonymous wrote:Be human. Have some sympathy. What she did was wrong— no doubt about it- but she is a young adult. She is mortified and humiliated. Show compassion.

She is an adult who stole a prestigious position of honor from someone else who did the actual work of writing a speech.

She is also an adult who stole the work of another writer.

She is also an adult who LIED again in her statement about the speech, claiming she was “asked” to give the speech.

She is an adult who is a liar and a cheat. No way this isn’t a pattern. No sympathy.

Relax everyone, I am sure it was the very first time in her adault life she has ever tried to steal or con anyone.

Anonymous wrote:Duke seniors who entered a contest to be the commencement speaker should definitely write their own speeches!
The entire speech was plagiarized from main ideas, to the structure of the speech and it was glaringly evident when you saw them side by side.
Duke snd/or the PR firm have scrubbed the video and transcript of the speech already…

this is idiotic! Is this just arrogance?

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Anonymous wrote:Any new tidbits on how she got found out?

I guarantee you one of her classmates always knew/suspected her of cheating/plagiarism in the past, and ran her speech through some type of search.

Or one of the students whose speech was not selected? I guarantee you anyone writing a speech will google other commencement speeches not necessarily to cheat but to see how they are presented.

+1 and particularly read a few from Harvard!!

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Anonymous wrote:Question is whether Credit Suisse will revoke her offer for full time employment?

Her moral flexibility will fit in well there.

Lol
Deutsche Bank will make a better offer and give her a corner office.

Duke seniors who entered a contest to be the commencement speaker should definitely write their own speeches!
The entire speech was plagiarized from main ideas, to the structure of the speech and it was glaringly evident when you saw them side by side.
Duke snd/or the PR firm have scrubbed the video and transcript of the speech already…

Politicians don't write their own speeches. Sometimes their political party won't even allow them to.
Duke seniors should write their own speeches. They should also know that the plagiarism detection programs that professors use to detect cheaters will find them out.

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Anonymous wrote:Any new tidbits on how she got found out?

I guarantee you one of her classmates always knew/suspected her of cheating/plagiarism in the past, and ran her speech through some type of search.

Or one of the students whose speech was not selected? I guarantee you anyone writing a speech will google other commencement speeches not necessarily to cheat but to see how they are presented.

Anonymous wrote:Any new tidbits on how she got found out?

I guarantee you one of her classmates always knew/suspected her of cheating/plagiarism in the past, and ran her speech through some type of search.

Any new tidbits on how she got found out?

So at age 22 with an elite private prep school education and four years of elite private college, she didn't know you're not supposed to steal a commencement speech from someone else and pass it off as your own? Begs the questions: Did she [also] not know you're not supposed to steal classwork or passages during her four years of undergrad studies? You're not supposed to steal prose as a journalist at the student newspaper? You're not supposed to commit fraud or any misrepresentations on an undergraduate application? You're not supposed to conceal assets to steal financial aid? You're not supposed to lie and cheat to get an investment banking offer? Now it is possible she did none of those other things but you never know what sort of blindspots she may had have if she thought it was okay to steal a commencement speech.

Cheats never fess up, they double down on their lies. No bottom caste woman has perfect English, perfect teeth, and a perfectly curated investment banking CV. A shameless schemer.

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Anonymous wrote:PP who is obsessed with defending the Duke commencement speaker - despite your certainty about her upbringing based on her name alone, there's zero way this woman was raised in extreme poverty. Just look at her LinkedIn - the private school she attended in Pakistan has educated multiple prime ministers and presidents of the country; she then went to several post-HS private schools, including a $65k boarding school in the US. As an academic who's worked with a lot of international students, I guarantee you that she comes from a very privileged background.

Lol. You are an uninformed fool. You think a highly privileged international student will be given a $70+k a year scholarship to attend Duke? Grow up. And I am not defending what she did. I have no dog in that fight. I'm only saying that there is a very very very high probability that she is not even in the vicinity of being privileged

Who cares? None of this gives her a pass on plagiarism. She cheated. She got caught. She had a fancy PR firm try to defend her and she should be ashamed.

+1

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I don't care if she came from the slums or a castle. SHE CHEATED.

Her background is 1000% irrelevant.

+1.