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Anonymous wrote:DS’s 3rd grade teacher did this. Her husband was being transferred (grown kids) and she decided to quit the year a month early. This was after being out off and on a ton for stuff that year. DS loved her but I was glad she left the school so he would not have her again. Very unprofessional how much she was out and then to just leave early on top of it.

Her husband was being transferred and you are update she didn’t stay behind to teach the last month of school? What did you want her to do, stay in an extended stay hotel or delay selling their house for you? Unbelievable.

Actually, I know a lot of military families where the wives (many of whom worked in the school system) have done exactly this - stayed behind with the kids and left at the end of the school year.

So everyone should do it?

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Anonymous wrote:DS’s 3rd grade teacher did this. Her husband was being transferred (grown kids) and she decided to quit the year a month early. This was after being out off and on a ton for stuff that year. DS loved her but I was glad she left the school so he would not have her again. Very unprofessional how much she was out and then to just leave early on top of it.

Her husband was being transferred and you are update she didn’t stay behind to teach the last month of school? What did you want her to do, stay in an extended stay hotel or delay selling their house for you? Unbelievable.

Actually, I know a lot of military families where the wives (many of whom worked in the school system) have done exactly this - stayed behind with the kids and left at the end of the school year.

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Anonymous wrote:Really? 34 days left and she quits.

The email says they are looking for a permanent sub but they have been difficult to find.

So basically for the next month+ he'll just have a revolving door of subs it sounds like.

My favorite part of the email was actually for us to prepare the kids that their classroom will look different on Monday morning. I'm assuming because she took a bunch of decorations and furniture with her that she'd purchased.

He's so bummed and I'm bummed for him.

Yes, really. I’m a teacher with a decade of experience and would like to quit as well. This year has been awful.

Yeah, me too.

I am a consultant. I work for one company but the work I do benefits my clients. I am getting ready to quit my job, but I am giving my employer two weeks notice and my clients the courtesy of finishing out the projects I am currently working on (or in one case, transitioning it to another consultant) before I leave. I don't blame teachers for quitting, it's been a really awful two years, but it would be nice if the ones quitting a month before school ends could give their employer/clients the same courtesy.

There are so many assumptions in this post it’s crazy. Maybe they were fired, maybe there are gravely ill…no one on here knows!

Exactly. Maybe the teacher did give notice to the school and it didn’t make it to the parents.

It doesn’t even matter. Teachers are allowed to quit. They don’t have to martyr themselves for other people’s children. They have their own needs and it’s 100% acceptable for teachers to focus on those first. It’s time to start respecting teachers and the choices they have to make.

If you want to be treated like a professional and be respected like a professional, then act like one. Your little rant up here is NOT professional. I have needs too, but I'm not quitting on the spot.

Professionalism is not defined by how long to stay at a job that you need to (or want to) leave.

"Although a two weeks’ notice is the accepted standard when leaving a job, be sensitive about the timing of your transition. Could you stay longer to assist in training your replacement? Will you leave the company in a bind? You can also help your employer with the transition in such ways as creating a folder with your most up to date documents and a list of upcoming deadlines and projects."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-etiquette-jobleaving/modern-etiquette-proper-protocol-when-leaving-a-job-idUSKBN0LR1NH20150223
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“Although it’s not always practical, try to give two weeks’ notice for a professional job and one month for a leadership role,” says Michele Gorman, managing director of Leveraged Potential Consulting. This allows the organization time to plan for your departure and avoids any negative feelings of abandonment or animosity towards you upon your exit.

If you’re in the middle of a major project, consider staying until its completion to avoid a disruption. Also consider whether you could stay a little longer to assist in training your replacement, or if you can’t, think about what you could do to help your employer with the transition, such as creating a folder containing current projects, a list of upcoming deadlines, key contacts, and materials to get your replacement up to speed faster.
https://www.fastcompany.com/3044693/the-new-etiquette-rules-for-quitting-your-job
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"McCaskill recommends giving notice at least two weeks’ notice before your departure. “It not only helps your current employer make plans to fill the role, but it also gives you and your team some runway to really transition and offload your work,” he explains."
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/22/this-is-the-best-way-to-quit-your-job-career-experts-say.html
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And then teaching specific links (both of these also say at least two weeks, so it's not like it's a "everyone except teachers" thing):
https://resumes-for-teachers.com/blog/teaching-job-search-tips/writing-a-teacher-resignation-letter/
https://woman.thenest.com/quit-teaching-job-3334.html

Anonymous wrote:DS’s 3rd grade teacher did this. Her husband was being transferred (grown kids) and she decided to quit the year a month early. This was after being out off and on a ton for stuff that year. DS loved her but I was glad she left the school so he would not have her again. Very unprofessional how much she was out and then to just leave early on top of it.

Her husband was being transferred and you are update she didn’t stay behind to teach the last month of school? What did you want her to do, stay in an extended stay hotel or delay selling their house for you? Unbelievable.

Anonymous wrote:DS’s 3rd grade teacher did this. Her husband was being transferred (grown kids) and she decided to quit the year a month early. This was after being out off and on a ton for stuff that year. DS loved her but I was glad she left the school so he would not have her again. Very unprofessional how much she was out and then to just leave early on top of it.

What? She used PTO that she earned. What a b***ch!
I’m sure she didn’t miss your family a bit.

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Anonymous wrote:Look-teaching is hard and there are good teachers and bad teachers, professional and skilled and unprofessional and unskilled. Like any profession! There’s a weird dynamic reminiscent of the gross police unions where any criticism of any teacher is taken as a shocking moral outrage. Suck it up buttercups-if you’re not a bad teacher no one’s talking abt you.

I'm not a teacher, but know the data-- there are an estimated currently .59 possible teachers (not just licensed, this includes provisional and alternately licensed etc.) available for every position (private, public, charter) in the US and the numbers are going down fast. This is SO much lower than it's ever been. As existing teachers have to cover 1.5x as much it's only going to accelerate. Add in the heightened vitriol. So I'm pretty sure it's going to be us parents who are going to have to "suck it up buttercup" as these teachers realize they don't have to put up with unreasonable job conditions. Excellent, highly experienced teachers are quitting ALL OVER and nobody wants to step in.

I don’t think anyone should stay year after year in a miserable job nor do I think parents need to act like each and every teacher is a hard-working, highly skilled saint.

No one has to act like every teacher is a hard-working, highly skilled saint. (That's part of the problem actually---teachers are put on a pedestal while often being denied basic professional treatment--and then the accountability that comes with that). We're just saying she can quit like anyone else can. She doesn't have to be professional in the ways you think she should if she doesn't want to be. You're free to criticize that, but saying that she's free to quit doesn't mean you're disrespecting teachers, just acknowledging they have the same agency as everyone else even though your kids are depending on them and it's really disappointing. And pointing out that she's in the power position here--there is a nationwide shortage that is a huge crisis. You don't actually employ her. People can elect a different school board, whine about taxes, complain about unions or the lack of unions, but the reality is that many skilled and unskilled, professional and unprofessional teachers are walking out across the whole country--whether schools stayed open or closed during the pandemic, whether they are in red or blue counties and states, rich and poor districts-- and we're all going to have to face this and figure out what to do.

You think you're right. And I think you're wrong. Some professions are different, including teaching. That's known by both teachers and non-teachers. The expectation of a teacher staying on until the end of the year is understood by all parties.

Maybe the pandemic has changed that. But I don't think that change will benefit teachers or anyone else.

Maybe the requirement to stay until the end of the year should not just be understood. Maybe it needs to be explicitly stated in their contracts. And while you’re at it, institute a claw back clause.

Dates are in there - and POSSIBLE consequences to leaving early - but it’s still a right to work state.

DS’s 3rd grade teacher did this. Her husband was being transferred (grown kids) and she decided to quit the year a month early. This was after being out off and on a ton for stuff that year. DS loved her but I was glad she left the school so he would not have her again. Very unprofessional how much she was out and then to just leave early on top of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Look-teaching is hard and there are good teachers and bad teachers, professional and skilled and unprofessional and unskilled. Like any profession! There’s a weird dynamic reminiscent of the gross police unions where any criticism of any teacher is taken as a shocking moral outrage. Suck it up buttercups-if you’re not a bad teacher no one’s talking abt you.

I'm not a teacher, but know the data-- there are an estimated currently .59 possible teachers (not just licensed, this includes provisional and alternately licensed etc.) available for every position (private, public, charter) in the US and the numbers are going down fast. This is SO much lower than it's ever been. As existing teachers have to cover 1.5x as much it's only going to accelerate. Add in the heightened vitriol. So I'm pretty sure it's going to be us parents who are going to have to "suck it up buttercup" as these teachers realize they don't have to put up with unreasonable job conditions. Excellent, highly experienced teachers are quitting ALL OVER and nobody wants to step in.

I don’t think anyone should stay year after year in a miserable job nor do I think parents need to act like each and every teacher is a hard-working, highly skilled saint.

No one has to act like every teacher is a hard-working, highly skilled saint. (That's part of the problem actually---teachers are put on a pedestal while often being denied basic professional treatment--and then the accountability that comes with that). We're just saying she can quit like anyone else can. She doesn't have to be professional in the ways you think she should if she doesn't want to be. You're free to criticize that, but saying that she's free to quit doesn't mean you're disrespecting teachers, just acknowledging they have the same agency as everyone else even though your kids are depending on them and it's really disappointing. And pointing out that she's in the power position here--there is a nationwide shortage that is a huge crisis. You don't actually employ her. People can elect a different school board, whine about taxes, complain about unions or the lack of unions, but the reality is that many skilled and unskilled, professional and unprofessional teachers are walking out across the whole country--whether schools stayed open or closed during the pandemic, whether they are in red or blue counties and states, rich and poor districts-- and we're all going to have to face this and figure out what to do.

You think you're right. And I think you're wrong. Some professions are different, including teaching. That's known by both teachers and non-teachers. The expectation of a teacher staying on until the end of the year is understood by all parties.

Maybe the pandemic has changed that. But I don't think that change will benefit teachers or anyone else.

Maybe the requirement to stay until the end of the year should not just be understood. Maybe it needs to be explicitly stated in their contracts. And while you’re at it, institute a claw back clause.

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Anonymous wrote:Really? 34 days left and she quits.

The email says they are looking for a permanent sub but they have been difficult to find.

So basically for the next month+ he'll just have a revolving door of subs it sounds like.

My favorite part of the email was actually for us to prepare the kids that their classroom will look different on Monday morning. I'm assuming because she took a bunch of decorations and furniture with her that she'd purchased.

He's so bummed and I'm bummed for him.

Yes, really. I’m a teacher with a decade of experience and would like to quit as well. This year has been awful.

Yeah, me too.

I am a consultant. I work for one company but the work I do benefits my clients. I am getting ready to quit my job, but I am giving my employer two weeks notice and my clients the courtesy of finishing out the projects I am currently working on (or in one case, transitioning it to another consultant) before I leave. I don't blame teachers for quitting, it's been a really awful two years, but it would be nice if the ones quitting a month before school ends could give their employer/clients the same courtesy.

There are so many assumptions in this post it’s crazy. Maybe they were fired, maybe there are gravely ill…no one on here knows!

Exactly. Maybe the teacher did give notice to the school and it didn’t make it to the parents.

It doesn’t even matter. Teachers are allowed to quit. They don’t have to martyr themselves for other people’s children. They have their own needs and it’s 100% acceptable for teachers to focus on those first. It’s time to start respecting teachers and the choices they have to make.

If you want to be treated like a professional and be respected like a professional, then act like one. Your little rant up here is NOT professional. I have needs too, but I'm not quitting on the spot.

Professionalism is not defined by how long to stay at a job that you need to (or want to) leave.

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Anonymous wrote:Really? 34 days left and she quits.

The email says they are looking for a permanent sub but they have been difficult to find.

So basically for the next month+ he'll just have a revolving door of subs it sounds like.

My favorite part of the email was actually for us to prepare the kids that their classroom will look different on Monday morning. I'm assuming because she took a bunch of decorations and furniture with her that she'd purchased.

He's so bummed and I'm bummed for him.

Yes, really. I’m a teacher with a decade of experience and would like to quit as well. This year has been awful.

Yeah, me too.

I am a consultant. I work for one company but the work I do benefits my clients. I am getting ready to quit my job, but I am giving my employer two weeks notice and my clients the courtesy of finishing out the projects I am currently working on (or in one case, transitioning it to another consultant) before I leave. I don't blame teachers for quitting, it's been a really awful two years, but it would be nice if the ones quitting a month before school ends could give their employer/clients the same courtesy.

There are so many assumptions in this post it’s crazy. Maybe they were fired, maybe there are gravely ill…no one on here knows!

Exactly. Maybe the teacher did give notice to the school and it didn’t make it to the parents.

It doesn’t even matter. Teachers are allowed to quit. They don’t have to martyr themselves for other people’s children. They have their own needs and it’s 100% acceptable for teachers to focus on those first. It’s time to start respecting teachers and the choices they have to make.

I doubt the teacher gave notice. We had a teacher quit mid year for health reasons and even she with her illness took a few minutes of her time to write the parents directly, explain the situation and next steps. Maybe the teacher has a mental break and couldn’t do it but either way it’s a sucky situation for OP’s kid.

Ok, so that’s one example. I’ve also seen it when admin asked a teacher to NOT email parents, because they didn’t have a sub in place yet. Again, PP, more assumptions.

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Anonymous wrote:Really? 34 days left and she quits.

The email says they are looking for a permanent sub but they have been difficult to find.

So basically for the next month+ he'll just have a revolving door of subs it sounds like.

My favorite part of the email was actually for us to prepare the kids that their classroom will look different on Monday morning. I'm assuming because she took a bunch of decorations and furniture with her that she'd purchased.

He's so bummed and I'm bummed for him.

Yes, really. I’m a teacher with a decade of experience and would like to quit as well. This year has been awful.

Yeah, me too.

I am a consultant. I work for one company but the work I do benefits my clients. I am getting ready to quit my job, but I am giving my employer two weeks notice and my clients the courtesy of finishing out the projects I am currently working on (or in one case, transitioning it to another consultant) before I leave. I don't blame teachers for quitting, it's been a really awful two years, but it would be nice if the ones quitting a month before school ends could give their employer/clients the same courtesy.

There are so many assumptions in this post it’s crazy. Maybe they were fired, maybe there are gravely ill…no one on here knows!

Exactly. Maybe the teacher did give notice to the school and it didn’t make it to the parents.

It doesn’t even matter. Teachers are allowed to quit. They don’t have to martyr themselves for other people’s children. They have their own needs and it’s 100% acceptable for teachers to focus on those first. It’s time to start respecting teachers and the choices they have to make.

If you want to be treated like a professional and be respected like a professional, then act like one. Your little rant up here is NOT professional. I have needs too, but I'm not quitting on the spot.

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Anonymous wrote:Really? 34 days left and she quits.

The email says they are looking for a permanent sub but they have been difficult to find.

So basically for the next month+ he'll just have a revolving door of subs it sounds like.

My favorite part of the email was actually for us to prepare the kids that their classroom will look different on Monday morning. I'm assuming because she took a bunch of decorations and furniture with her that she'd purchased.

He's so bummed and I'm bummed for him.

Yes, really. I’m a teacher with a decade of experience and would like to quit as well. This year has been awful.

Yeah, me too.

I am a consultant. I work for one company but the work I do benefits my clients. I am getting ready to quit my job, but I am giving my employer two weeks notice and my clients the courtesy of finishing out the projects I am currently working on (or in one case, transitioning it to another consultant) before I leave. I don't blame teachers for quitting, it's been a really awful two years, but it would be nice if the ones quitting a month before school ends could give their employer/clients the same courtesy.

There are so many assumptions in this post it’s crazy. Maybe they were fired, maybe there are gravely ill…no one on here knows!

Exactly. Maybe the teacher did give notice to the school and it didn’t make it to the parents.

It doesn’t even matter. Teachers are allowed to quit. They don’t have to martyr themselves for other people’s children. They have their own needs and it’s 100% acceptable for teachers to focus on those first. It’s time to start respecting teachers and the choices they have to make.

I doubt the teacher gave notice. We had a teacher quit mid year for health reasons and even she with her illness took a few minutes of her time to write the parents directly, explain the situation and next steps. Maybe the teacher has a mental break and couldn’t do it but either way it’s a sucky situation for OP’s kid.

But we need to respect the teacher. Especially in circumstances like this.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really? 34 days left and she quits.

The email says they are looking for a permanent sub but they have been difficult to find.

So basically for the next month+ he'll just have a revolving door of subs it sounds like.

My favorite part of the email was actually for us to prepare the kids that their classroom will look different on Monday morning. I'm assuming because she took a bunch of decorations and furniture with her that she'd purchased.

He's so bummed and I'm bummed for him.

Yes, really. I’m a teacher with a decade of experience and would like to quit as well. This year has been awful.

Yeah, me too.

I am a consultant. I work for one company but the work I do benefits my clients. I am getting ready to quit my job, but I am giving my employer two weeks notice and my clients the courtesy of finishing out the projects I am currently working on (or in one case, transitioning it to another consultant) before I leave. I don't blame teachers for quitting, it's been a really awful two years, but it would be nice if the ones quitting a month before school ends could give their employer/clients the same courtesy.

There are so many assumptions in this post it’s crazy. Maybe they were fired, maybe there are gravely ill…no one on here knows!

Exactly. Maybe the teacher did give notice to the school and it didn’t make it to the parents.

It doesn’t even matter. Teachers are allowed to quit. They don’t have to martyr themselves for other people’s children. They have their own needs and it’s 100% acceptable for teachers to focus on those first. It’s time to start respecting teachers and the choices they have to make.

That's fine, quit, just remember that this is a reflection on all teachers - so by doing something like this, you are disrespecting all your co-workers because parents WILL take it out on them.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really? 34 days left and she quits.

The email says they are looking for a permanent sub but they have been difficult to find.

So basically for the next month+ he'll just have a revolving door of subs it sounds like.

My favorite part of the email was actually for us to prepare the kids that their classroom will look different on Monday morning. I'm assuming because she took a bunch of decorations and furniture with her that she'd purchased.

He's so bummed and I'm bummed for him.

Yes, really. I’m a teacher with a decade of experience and would like to quit as well. This year has been awful.

Yeah, me too.

I am a consultant. I work for one company but the work I do benefits my clients. I am getting ready to quit my job, but I am giving my employer two weeks notice and my clients the courtesy of finishing out the projects I am currently working on (or in one case, transitioning it to another consultant) before I leave. I don't blame teachers for quitting, it's been a really awful two years, but it would be nice if the ones quitting a month before school ends could give their employer/clients the same courtesy.

There are so many assumptions in this post it’s crazy. Maybe they were fired, maybe there are gravely ill…no one on here knows!

Exactly. Maybe the teacher did give notice to the school and it didn’t make it to the parents.

It doesn’t even matter. Teachers are allowed to quit. They don’t have to martyr themselves for other people’s children. They have their own needs and it’s 100% acceptable for teachers to focus on those first. It’s time to start respecting teachers and the choices they have to make.

I doubt the teacher gave notice. We had a teacher quit mid year for health reasons and even she with her illness took a few minutes of her time to write the parents directly, explain the situation and next steps. Maybe the teacher has a mental break and couldn’t do it but either way it’s a sucky situation for OP’s kid.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really? 34 days left and she quits.

The email says they are looking for a permanent sub but they have been difficult to find.

So basically for the next month+ he'll just have a revolving door of subs it sounds like.

My favorite part of the email was actually for us to prepare the kids that their classroom will look different on Monday morning. I'm assuming because she took a bunch of decorations and furniture with her that she'd purchased.

He's so bummed and I'm bummed for him.

Yes, really. I’m a teacher with a decade of experience and would like to quit as well. This year has been awful.

Yeah, me too.

I am a consultant. I work for one company but the work I do benefits my clients. I am getting ready to quit my job, but I am giving my employer two weeks notice and my clients the courtesy of finishing out the projects I am currently working on (or in one case, transitioning it to another consultant) before I leave. I don't blame teachers for quitting, it's been a really awful two years, but it would be nice if the ones quitting a month before school ends could give their employer/clients the same courtesy.

There are so many assumptions in this post it’s crazy. Maybe they were fired, maybe there are gravely ill…no one on here knows!

Exactly. Maybe the teacher did give notice to the school and it didn’t make it to the parents.

It doesn’t even matter. Teachers are allowed to quit. They don’t have to martyr themselves for other people’s children. They have their own needs and it’s 100% acceptable for teachers to focus on those first. It’s time to start respecting teachers and the choices they have to make.