Anonymous
Post 05/02/2022 22:38     Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I know I'm in the minority on DCUM but I think this is good news and I hope it comes to pass.


You're in the minority full stop.

The vast majority of Americans do not believe the government should be making health care decisions for you.


Like I said, I know I'm in the minority on DCUM. And abortion is not a "health care decision," in the vast majority of cases.

Choosing not to give birth, which is statistically more dangerous than having an abortion, is a “health care decision” in every effing case.


Then don't get yourself pregnant. Problem solved.

Nobody gets themselves pregnant.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2022 22:38     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Living women will soon have fewer rights to bodily autonomy than corpses.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2022 22:38     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion: most voters won’t care.


+1. Especially if their state makes only minor changes.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2022 22:38     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:So what’s next? Conservative states have already made abortion inaccessible to most women already, creating hurdles and scare tactics that leave only 1-2 providers operating in some states. Do women/people who value womens’ health rise up? Do conservatives go full on handmaids tale? Is it going to be like 2 sets of rules-one for red states and another for blue? Or does nothing really change because they’ve mostly kept poor, rural women from getting abortions anyway, and they don’t really want to prevent “urban” babies from being aborted anyway?


There was an article in WaPo today that the anti-choice lobby now wants to push for a nation-wide ban on abortions after 6 weeks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/05/02/abortion-ban-roe-supreme-court-mississippi/


And they will get it unless you vote, vote, vote.


Pretty sure the weeks don’t matter anymore. Abortion at any week will be illegal.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2022 22:37     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what’s next? Conservative states have already made abortion inaccessible to most women already, creating hurdles and scare tactics that leave only 1-2 providers operating in some states. Do women/people who value womens’ health rise up? Do conservatives go full on handmaids tale? Is it going to be like 2 sets of rules-one for red states and another for blue? Or does nothing really change because they’ve mostly kept poor, rural women from getting abortions anyway, and they don’t really want to prevent “urban” babies from being aborted anyway?


There was an article in WaPo today that the anti-choice lobby now wants to push for a nation-wide ban on abortions after 6 weeks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/05/02/abortion-ban-roe-supreme-court-mississippi/


So basically an anti-Roe? Isn’t that against the whole states rights argument?


That argument is only germane when it's rights the conservatives want people to have or not to have. There's no actual principle of state's rights.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2022 22:37     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:Talk about judicial activism, wowsers. This is the mother opinion of all time.


There is no constitutional right to abortion. It should be a state decision.


Why didn't these abortion supporters push the Democrats to pass an abortion rights bill in Congress? The Democrats had 60 votes in the Senate when they passed Obamacare, if there really was overwhelming support on the D side for abortion rights, they could have included it.

Wonder why they didn't?

Do you remember what 2009 was like? There was a whole lot of Republican sh!t to fix.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2022 22:37     Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know I'm in the minority on DCUM but I think this is good news and I hope it comes to pass.


You're in the minority full stop.

The vast majority of Americans do not believe the government should be making health care decisions for you.


Like I said, I know I'm in the minority on DCUM. And abortion is not a "health care decision," in the vast majority of cases.


Is every pregnancy a potential health threat to the mother? Why yes, yes it is. Does every pregnancy change a woman's body? Why yes, yes it does.

Women have health because women have bodies. Procedures that affect their health involve "health care decisions."

Anonymous
Post 05/02/2022 22:37     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion: most voters won’t care.

Yes, Republicans, you have the midterms in the bag. I repeat, no one will care about this so just stay home and ignore what will be historic levels of engagement. It’s pretend, fake news. Most voters won’t care, so I repeat: Republicans, do not vote. It is unnecessary.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2022 22:37     Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know I'm in the minority on DCUM but I think this is good news and I hope it comes to pass.


You're in the minority full stop.

The vast majority of Americans do not believe the government should be making health care decisions for you.


Like I said, I know I'm in the minority on DCUM. And abortion is not a "health care decision," in the vast majority of cases.

Choosing not to give birth, which is statistically more dangerous than having an abortion, is a “health care decision” in every effing case.


Then don't get yourself pregnant. Problem solved.


Then allow access to birth control in ALL forms.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2022 22:36     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what’s next? Conservative states have already made abortion inaccessible to most women already, creating hurdles and scare tactics that leave only 1-2 providers operating in some states. Do women/people who value womens’ health rise up? Do conservatives go full on handmaids tale? Is it going to be like 2 sets of rules-one for red states and another for blue? Or does nothing really change because they’ve mostly kept poor, rural women from getting abortions anyway, and they don’t really want to prevent “urban” babies from being aborted anyway?


There was an article in WaPo today that the anti-choice lobby now wants to push for a nation-wide ban on abortions after 6 weeks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/05/02/abortion-ban-roe-supreme-court-mississippi/


And they will get it unless you vote, vote, vote.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2022 22:36     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Go woke go broke. It's too bad that the leftward social march of the democratic party resulted in women losing their right to decide about their own body and health. C'est la vie. If the democrats don't come back toward the center, I think the right to abortion is probably permanently gone


C'est la vie my a**. A right we all had for decades is now stripped from our children. This is a mother of a fight.


There is no "right" to an abortion. That is what this entire decision is about It was wrong from the beginning.


Oh it was right. We will fight to get these old guys away from our daughters reproductive decisions.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2022 22:35     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

I had planned to send my daughter to college with contraceptives and Plan B. I guess Plan C will be a valid passport.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2022 22:35     Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know I'm in the minority on DCUM but I think this is good news and I hope it comes to pass.


You're in the minority full stop.

The vast majority of Americans do not believe the government should be making health care decisions for you.


Like I said, I know I'm in the minority on DCUM. And abortion is not a "health care decision," in the vast majority of cases.

Choosing not to give birth, which is statistically more dangerous than having an abortion, is a “health care decision” in every effing case.


Basically a woman will no longer have the right to chose to live if her life is endangered by the pregnancy. The fetus has more rights than a live breathing WOMAN. Men don’t have this problem.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2022 22:35     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:If this country operated correctly then all the Justices who said explicitly that they would respect stare decisis in this matter during their confirmation hearings would get criminal referrals for lying to Congress.


If this country operated correctly the Democrats would have made bought and paid for justices an issue decades ago.

The Supreme Court has officially become a joke. I, like a gazillion other people on here, went to law school. I loved appellate practice and procedure, participated in moot court competitions all over the country and I loved it. I though a career in appellate law was where I wanted to be. It's kind of sickening to come to the conclusion that people that were held up as models of fairness, intellect, and measured jurisprudence are really just partisan hacks.

The Court should be expanded and heavily reformed.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2022 22:35     Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know I'm in the minority on DCUM but I think this is good news and I hope it comes to pass.


You're in the minority full stop.

The vast majority of Americans do not believe the government should be making health care decisions for you.


Like I said, I know I'm in the minority on DCUM. And abortion is not a "health care decision," in the vast majority of cases.

Choosing not to give birth, which is statistically more dangerous than having an abortion, is a “health care decision” in every effing case.


Then don't get yourself pregnant. Problem solved.