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Anonymous
07/23/2024 09:42
Subject: Re:What the hell happened to JD Vance?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He's a decent dude, and his wife is great. But he's quite ambitious and made the political calculus a while ago that the National Review brand of conservatism was not a viable path for his political fortunes. He can be thoughtful and nuanced (and some of his writings reflect this, even if you do not agree with him), but nobody is buying that these days, especially with the specter of Trumpism looming. He's had to walk back a number of his anti-Trump opinions in order to try to carve out a niche. This is the calculus that has been made, but it does not appear to be working.
Look at Asha Rangappa, who was at YLS at the same time as JD and is now a twitter warrior. These things happen when visibility, attention, ambition, scrutiny and brand-building enter the mix.
As evidenced by Ted Cruz at the SCOTUS confirmation hearings recently, you would be surprised (or perhaps not) by the number of esteemed, venerable people who are completely obsessed with their twitter mentions and the concomitant attention high. Sign of the times.
Why did he need to be in politics to begin with? I don't see how he is even a good fit, he is extremely unlikable.
Why do any politicians need to be in politics? Regardless of party. Every single politician on a national level is a narcissist and has some sort of savior complex. Vance is no different than all the others.
Anonymous
07/23/2024 09:33
Subject: What the hell happened to JD Vance?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s just shocking to me. Clearly a smart & educated dude; grew up lower-middle class, entered the marines then graduated from Ohio State in only two years, then Yale Law. His wife was a Gates Cambridge Scholar, then attended Yale Law and is a successful lawyer. In his book, he criticized Fox.
Now he’s on Twitter rambling about illegal immigrants and yada yada.
He wants to be President. He thinks by being inside, he will get there either if T is unable to complete his term should he god help us become President again. Or run as Republican nominee on '28 ticket.
+1 Trump explains:
LOL. "He liked me more than anybody liked me" is Trumpspeak for "he debased himself to gain my approval more than all the other VP candidates."
Anonymous
07/23/2024 09:22
Subject: What the hell happened to JD Vance?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dems are envious because Vance has a brain & Kamala….doesn’t.
Kamala has more credentials politically than he does. Also, it's much harder for a woman to rise in the political ranks than a man, so she has more balls than he does.
Even so, they both are smarter than Trump, yet Trump is your man. So, you may not want to mention who has a brain and who doesn't.
Kamala has brains. She's a prosecutor with a long record of public service. Vance...got in to Yale Law School as a military admit, didn't have a stellar record there, and has worked at a hedge fund run by conservative Silicon Valley oddballs. He has a very thin resume. And shame on his wife--a brown immigrant woman embracing the MAGA nutjobs who would like nothing more than to expel people like her from the country.
Anonymous
07/23/2024 09:10
Subject: What the hell happened to JD Vance?
Anonymous wrote:Dems are envious because Vance has a brain & Kamala….doesn’t.
Kamala has more credentials politically than he does. Also, it's much harder for a woman to rise in the political ranks than a man, so she has more balls than he does.
Even so, they both are smarter than Trump, yet Trump is your man. So, you may not want to mention who has a brain and who doesn't.
Anonymous
07/23/2024 09:07
Subject: Re:What the hell happened to JD Vance?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He's a decent dude, and his wife is great. But he's quite ambitious and made the political calculus a while ago that the National Review brand of conservatism was not a viable path for his political fortunes. He can be thoughtful and nuanced (and some of his writings reflect this, even if you do not agree with him), but nobody is buying that these days, especially with the specter of Trumpism looming. He's had to walk back a number of his anti-Trump opinions in order to try to carve out a niche. This is the calculus that has been made, but it does not appear to be working.
Look at Asha Rangappa, who was at YLS at the same time as JD and is now a twitter warrior. These things happen when visibility, attention, ambition, scrutiny and brand-building enter the mix.
As evidenced by Ted Cruz at the SCOTUS confirmation hearings recently, you would be surprised (or perhaps not) by the number of esteemed, venerable people who are completely obsessed with their twitter mentions and the concomitant attention high. Sign of the times.
+1 to all of this.
I have to say that I do really wonder about his wife and how she's dealing with this. It would be hard for impossible for me to deal with this. They seemingly moved to Ohio to be close to his roots and to work to "make things better" with your spouse who was moderate right at best. Now the dude is more or less on the Trump. I don't think I could deal.
+1 Very faustian. Sold his soul to the devil. I guess she has her own ambitions, and she is willing to sell her soul, as well.
Or is it like Pence's wife who had to deal with her husband on the same ticket as a serial cheater and immoral douche married to a softcore porn star? She was not a happy camper, from what I hear.
Anonymous
07/23/2024 08:58
Subject: What the hell happened to JD Vance?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s just shocking to me. Clearly a smart & educated dude; grew up lower-middle class, entered the marines then graduated from Ohio State in only two years, then Yale Law. His wife was a Gates Cambridge Scholar, then attended Yale Law and is a successful lawyer. In his book, he criticized Fox.
Now he’s on Twitter rambling about illegal immigrants and yada yada.
He wants to be President. He thinks by being inside, he will get there either if T is unable to complete his term should he god help us become President again. Or run as Republican nominee on '28 ticket.
+1 Trump explains:
Anonymous
07/23/2024 08:57
Subject: What the hell happened to JD Vance?
Anonymous wrote:It’s just shocking to me. Clearly a smart & educated dude; grew up lower-middle class, entered the marines then graduated from Ohio State in only two years, then Yale Law. His wife was a Gates Cambridge Scholar, then attended Yale Law and is a successful lawyer. In his book, he criticized Fox.
Now he’s on Twitter rambling about illegal immigrants and yada yada.
He wants to be President. He thinks by being inside, he will get there either if T is unable to complete his term should he god help us become President again. Or run as Republican nominee on '28 ticket.
Anonymous
07/23/2024 08:56
Subject: What the hell happened to JD Vance?
To be fair, I think many many law students are plotting their political trajectories.
Anonymous
07/23/2024 08:54
Subject: What the hell happened to JD Vance?
Dems are envious because Vance has a brain & Kamala….doesn’t.
Anonymous
07/23/2024 08:45
Subject: What the hell happened to JD Vance?
Anonymous wrote:It’s just shocking to me. Clearly a smart & educated dude; grew up lower-middle class, entered the marines then graduated from Ohio State in only two years, then Yale Law. His wife was a Gates Cambridge Scholar, then attended Yale Law and is a successful lawyer. In his book, he criticized Fox.
Now he’s on Twitter rambling about illegal immigrants and yada yada.
He sold his soul to the dark side from whence there is no return.
Anonymous
07/23/2024 08:38
Subject: What the hell happened to JD Vance?
Anonymous wrote:8:30 sounds exactly like Obama’s.
Yes, Barack is the same profile. Both he and JD were plotting their political trajectories from their law school days and got some critical early help from older boosters. In JD's case, it was primarily Amy Chua and Peter Thiel that help propel him forward. For Barack it was the likes of Abner Mikva, Emil Jones and Valerie Jarrett.
Anonymous
07/23/2024 08:32
Subject: What the hell happened to JD Vance?
8:30 sounds exactly like Obama’s.
Anonymous
07/23/2024 08:30
Subject: Re:What the hell happened to JD Vance?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He's a decent dude, and his wife is great. But he's quite ambitious and made the political calculus a while ago that the National Review brand of conservatism was not a viable path for his political fortunes. He can be thoughtful and nuanced (and some of his writings reflect this, even if you do not agree with him), but nobody is buying that these days, especially with the specter of Trumpism looming. He's had to walk back a number of his anti-Trump opinions in order to try to carve out a niche. This is the calculus that has been made, but it does not appear to be working.
Look at Asha Rangappa, who was at YLS at the same time as JD and is now a twitter warrior. These things happen when visibility, attention, ambition, scrutiny and brand-building enter the mix.
As evidenced by Ted Cruz at the SCOTUS confirmation hearings recently, you would be surprised (or perhaps not) by the number of esteemed, venerable people who are completely obsessed with their twitter mentions and the concomitant attention high. Sign of the times.
Why did he need to be in politics to begin with? I don't see how he is even a good fit, he is extremely unlikable.
He didn't. But he's ambitious. This type for person doesn't think about "good fit" or "needs of the country" before jumping into politics, they just go for it to satiate their thirst for acclaim, status, notoriety, power, relevance etc. Not an uncommon profile for YLS.