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Anonymous wrote:The average American woman is fat and obese. We know.

I other news, water is wet.

It's no wonder why men of all races (except for Asian men) almost unanimously find Asian women the most attractive. Maybe it is simply because on average, they are way less fat.

The vanity sizing in the west is laughable. A 'small' here really means you are probably a L to XL in Asian clothing if you've ever been shopping in a city like Bangkok, Tokyo, Beijing, or Seoul.

Cite?

NPR:

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/11/30/247530095/are-you-interested-dating-odds-favor-white-men-asian-women

American men, who are short and fat too. I'm a tall European and we all marry other tall Europeans or tall American WASPs. We're pretty much all in shape.

Europe is very different than the US, a melting pot. Europe also doesn't have *as* many obese people. Even so, Europeans aren't "all pretty much in shape", certainly better than the US, but not definitely not "all".

I'm from a country with a very light blue indicator.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The average American woman is fat and obese. We know.

I other news, water is wet.

It's no wonder why men of all races (except for Asian men) almost unanimously find Asian women the most attractive. Maybe it is simply because on average, they are way less fat.

The vanity sizing in the west is laughable. A 'small' here really means you are probably a L to XL in Asian clothing if you've ever been shopping in a city like Bangkok, Tokyo, Beijing, or Seoul.

Cite?

NPR:

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/11/30/247530095/are-you-interested-dating-odds-favor-white-men-asian-women

American men, who are short and fat too. I'm a tall European and we all marry other tall Europeans or tall American WASPs. We're pretty much all in shape.

Europe is very different than the US, a melting pot. Europe also doesn't have *as* many obese people. Even so, Europeans aren't "all pretty much in shape", certainly better than the US, but not definitely not "all".

Right. Europe also has some countries that have significant drinking problems. It’s laughably wrong that they’re “all pretty much in shape.”

Anonymous wrote:Americans are chronically stressed and sleep deprived. Both of these conditions cause very elevated cortisol levels and elevated cortisol drives hunger - not normal hunger, but irrational hunger and cravings for unhealthy foods.

Endocrinologists and sleep specialists have been making this link for years now. It is common sense that this issue is a big factor in the obesity epidemic.

It may be one factor, but the portion sizes and fast food consumption are probably bigger factors (no pun intended).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The average American woman is fat and obese. We know.

I other news, water is wet.

It's no wonder why men of all races (except for Asian men) almost unanimously find Asian women the most attractive. Maybe it is simply because on average, they are way less fat.

The vanity sizing in the west is laughable. A 'small' here really means you are probably a L to XL in Asian clothing if you've ever been shopping in a city like Bangkok, Tokyo, Beijing, or Seoul.

Cite?

NPR:

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/11/30/247530095/are-you-interested-dating-odds-favor-white-men-asian-women

American men, who are short and fat too. I'm a tall European and we all marry other tall Europeans or tall American WASPs. We're pretty much all in shape.

Europe is very different than the US, a melting pot. Europe also doesn't have *as* many obese people. Even so, Europeans aren't "all pretty much in shape", certainly better than the US, but not definitely not "all".

Americans are chronically stressed and sleep deprived. Both of these conditions cause very elevated cortisol levels and elevated cortisol drives hunger - not normal hunger, but irrational hunger and cravings for unhealthy foods.

Endocrinologists and sleep specialists have been making this link for years now. It is common sense that this issue is a big factor in the obesity epidemic.

Anonymous wrote:American women are short, fat and unattractive due to their obesity.

We didn't need a 12 page thread to state the obvi.

Hey, don’t bring height into this! Us shorties can’t help it

- Someone who is really 5’3.5’’ but who pretends to be 5’4’’ so I don’t feel like too much of a munchkin

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Anonymous wrote:McDonald's no longer has a $1 menu.

McDonald's no longer sells salads.

And people will still gladly spend more money on this garbage. You can get a 42oz container or oats for 2.79, 30 servings.

That breaks down to 9 cents per serving. But people will would rather pay $5 for a sausage eggs and cheese biscuits at the driv thru, whether they are short on money or not.

Because it tastes good and gives people a moment of happiness in their miserable lives.
I find it so much easier to live a healthy lifestyle when I'm happier. When things are tough, I eat garbage and waste my money. If people weren't so broke and depressed, it would be easier to make better decisions.

All of those things, plus sleep. Sleep deprivation to me should be at the top of the list as a major cause of obesity.

THIS!


I spent most of my life in the normal weight range for my height. In my 30s I gained weight due to the transition from a more active student lifestyle to sit at a desk for 10-12 hours daily in a chronic high stress legal career.

However it was when I experienced a hard onset of perimenopause following removal of one whole and part of another ovary that I very quickly spiraled into obesity. After years of getting poor advice from physicians, I finally got on HRT about six months ago and the changes in my body are remarkable. I know now that I wasn’t sleeping well at all from the nighttime hot flushes/sweats and so besides coping with the huge drop in estrogen my body had been experiencing very elevated cortisol from chronic lack of restful sleep.

I’ve lost ten pounds already which doesn’t seem much except it happened with zero other lifestyle changes. After a few months of really good sleep and much improved hormone profile, I am now able to exercise more than I could for years when the perimenopausal symptoms and chronic sleep deprivation were kicking my rear. My hunger is also entirely different now that I’m well rested again, so eating healthy foods in reasonable quantities is no longer a battle.


It’s so easy for folks who have different genetics and different life circumstances to point fingers and call the overweight/obese lazy gluttons. It’s a ridiculous assertion when SEVENTY PERCENT of the population is overweight/obese - we are not all lazy undisciplined people. I grew up working class, started working at the age of 12 and was full time by 17 and worked full time as I put myself through 4 university degree programs including a law degree. These are not the actions of a lazy undisciplined person! I didn’t wake up at 40 and suddenly become a lazy person; I woke up at 40 and my body was enduring an onslaught of toxic elevated hormones and because our medical system is subpar it took years for me to get the treatment I needed to rectify that situation and give myself a reasonable chance to get back to a normal weight. Willpower is simply no match for hormones, and never has been. Same reason that half of all pregnancies are unplanned. Human beings are just animals and our hormones control our actions a whole lot more than the self righteous among us would care to admit.

I have tons (pun intended) of empathy for overweight/obese people now that I honestly didn’t have all the years I was trim without thinking about it or working for it. I know who I am and how strong a person I am. But I am not stronger than the effect of hormones on my brain.

Disgusts me to see all the judgmental comments. Some small part of me can’t help but hope such people experience a health issues that teaches them just how not in control of their bodies they actually are when biology comes up against their self righteous notions of willpower.

American women are short, fat and unattractive due to their obesity.

We didn't need a 12 page thread to state the obvi.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in one of the poorest counties in Maryland in a poor large town/small city. Everyone drives to Walmart Market for their foods. It is interesting to watch the shopping habits. Morbid obesity is strong here across all races. Poor white and poor African American will load their shopping carts with everything except fruits and veggies from Walmart Market. Haitian immigrants will put fruits and veggies in their shopping carts. I think it is cultural for Haitian immigrants to buy fruits and veggies. Fruits and veggies are available to poor people in this region but poor people across all races choose not to buy them.

Oh those dumb fat poors. Spending their small amounts of money on what they know tastes good and will get eaten vs vegetables which, let’s be honest, if you weren’t raised to eat (and which nutritionists have destroyed people’s eating by saying no one should eat dietary fat or add salt to) don’t taste great.

+1
People over-complicate this issue. Everyone knows that a salad with lean protein is healthier than a cheeseburger and fries. The fact is that even if they cost the exact same thing and are equally accessible, people will choose the latter BECAUSE IT TASTES BETTER, even if they are fat and want to lose weight.
It is partially a lack of discipline, but for many people, the minute of pleasure they get from junk food is the only good moment they have in a day. People are tired. They're depressed. They're stressed out. They work all the time and are broke anyway. They're struggling, and rich "experts" just tell them that they need to wake up earlier. They go on social media and see people who seem to do nothing flaunting their wealth. They turn on the news and see that the world is burning. Why would anyone choose a freaking salad?

Anonymous wrote:I'm 5'7 and 130 lbs and DNGAF about the size of the average American woman or what she wears or what the average (short and bold) American man requires to get an errection.
We're spending an ungodly amount on dementia and Alzheimers disease care with zero results or success. We need to let those people die peacefully and respectfully, instead of ramming a tube down their throats and keeping them drugged and in diapers for years, immobilized in a bed. The alcohol related treatment and disease related costs are also out of control. Instead of fat shaming, we should concentrate on those two issues above to save hundreds of billions each year.

Bald, not bold, sorry, ESL here. American men are wussies.

Anonymous wrote:I live in one of the poorest counties in Maryland in a poor large town/small city. Everyone drives to Walmart Market for their foods. It is interesting to watch the shopping habits. Morbid obesity is strong here across all races. Poor white and poor African American will load their shopping carts with everything except fruits and veggies from Walmart Market. Haitian immigrants will put fruits and veggies in their shopping carts. I think it is cultural for Haitian immigrants to buy fruits and veggies. Fruits and veggies are available to poor people in this region but poor people across all races choose not to buy them.

Oh those dumb fat poors. Spending their small amounts of money on what they know tastes good and will get eaten vs vegetables which, let’s be honest, if you weren’t raised to eat (and which nutritionists have destroyed people’s eating by saying no one should eat dietary fat or add salt to) don’t taste great.

I'm 5'7 and 130 lbs and DNGAF about the size of the average American woman or what she wears or what the average (short and bold) American man requires to get an errection.
We're spending an ungodly amount on dementia and Alzheimers disease care with zero results or success. We need to let those people die peacefully and respectfully, instead of ramming a tube down their throats and keeping them drugged and in diapers for years, immobilized in a bed. The alcohol related treatment and disease related costs are also out of control. Instead of fat shaming, we should concentrate on those two issues above to save hundreds of billions each year.

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Food deserts have been largely disproved. Fresh veggies rot in bodegas and children will choose fatty carbs over healthier options at school.I think most of America is broke and depressed. They have lost a sense of community huddled over devices, no longer trust their government and take little comfort in faith. Their health insurance is crappy and they are treated poorly by staff. Many doctor’s offices routinely have times where they don’t answer their phones; you can leave a message or book online. People’s needs are met with supreme indifference at every turn. Hard work does not make them upwardly mobile. Many do not have travel or vacations to anticipate. Is it any wonder that they revel in the pleasure of cheap, satisfying junk food? What do they have to look forward to?

I don’t agree entirely with your assertions about food deserts. But everything else you said is spot on.

I live in one of the poorest counties in Maryland in a poor large town/small city. Everyone drives to Walmart Market for their foods. It is interesting to watch the shopping habits. Morbid obesity is strong here across all races. Poor white and poor African American will load their shopping carts with everything except fruits and veggies from Walmart Market. Haitian immigrants will put fruits and veggies in their shopping carts. I think it is cultural for Haitian immigrants to buy fruits and veggies. Fruits and veggies are available to poor people in this region but poor people across all races choose not to buy them.

Walmart is one of the largest sellers of organic produce in the US. You can get organic salad at Walmart for $1.99 a box and cheap chicken. My Walmart also carries grass fed steak for $10.99/ lbs.

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Anonymous wrote:The average American woman is fat and obese. We know.

I other news, water is wet.

It's no wonder why men of all races (except for Asian men) almost unanimously find Asian women the most attractive. Maybe it is simply because on average, they are way less fat.

The vanity sizing in the west is laughable. A 'small' here really means you are probably a L to XL in Asian clothing if you've ever been shopping in a city like Bangkok, Tokyo, Beijing, or Seoul.

American men are fat too.
And who cares what they think?

This thread is not about Amerian men. Nice whataboutism. Feel free to start another thread about how fat US men are - I agree! But that doesn't change the fact that your avg. American women is becoming more and more obese and less and less attractive. That's probably why there are so many studies these days showing that people are having less sex. People are just too fat and unattractive these days.

Even men who aren't attracted to obese women will have sex with obese women if they want sex badly enough. They are not picky when it comes to satisfying their sexual needs. It's women who can do without. If heterosexuals are having less sex, it's only because women don't want to have sex with men. That is partially because men are fat too, but mostly because they're kind of useless and don't provide satisfying sex anyway.

None of this is relevant to the topic, in any event.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The average American woman is fat and obese. We know.

I other news, water is wet.

It's no wonder why men of all races (except for Asian men) almost unanimously find Asian women the most attractive. Maybe it is simply because on average, they are way less fat.

The vanity sizing in the west is laughable. A 'small' here really means you are probably a L to XL in Asian clothing if you've ever been shopping in a city like Bangkok, Tokyo, Beijing, or Seoul.

Cite?

NPR:

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/11/30/247530095/are-you-interested-dating-odds-favor-white-men-asian-women

American men, who are short and fat too. I'm a tall European and we all marry other tall Europeans or tall American WASPs. We're pretty much all in shape.