Anonymous wrote:With the exception of a few of you, I'd love to see the rest come back when you are in your early 50's and report back on how your diets/calorie counts are working for you then. Sadly, things tend to change *for most women* in their late 40's, and you have to make major changes to either your calories or your food choices or both.

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fit woman in her early 50's who has had to drastically change eating habits and exercise to maintain fitness and desired weight

Eh. Opposite problem here. I struggle to keep weight on. Not everyone has problems with overeating. Some of us have small stomachs or not much interest in food.

I gained 10 lbs on purpose and want to gain 5-10 more.

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Anonymous wrote:I‘ve never been overweight, but I don’t think counting calories is healthy. No naturally think woman I know counts calories.

This is a chicken and egg thing. Naturally thin women don't HAVE to count calories,...because they're naturally thin. Those of who have to count would prefer not to, of course. Would be thrilled to be naturally skinny without having to count anything. And no I don't eat junk, drink soda, or even alcohol.

There's no such thing as naturally thin. Women who have always been thin were raised not eating junk food for every meal or eating too much. Their eating doesn't change because they have always ate at or under what they need to to be thin. No such thing as naturally thin.

There is such a thing, because I am thin without working at it, as was my mom, as was her mom. Genetics are indeed a thing.

right, but the genetics didn't make you thin what makes you thin are you eating habits and movement. Appetite, eating habits, how accurately your brain is able to your want for food vs your need for food. So while it doesn't feel like work to you, someone else eating the same portions and items you are eating that has a much larger appetite and some sugar addictions is going to have to "work" to stay thin

I don't exercise (so there goes the movement factor) and I eat what I want with no portion control. You are correct that someone else could eat the same sleeve of thin mints or pint of ice cream with different results. That's genetics.

Oh you sweet little unicorn. We believe you.

I seriously don't get the point you're trying to make. Are you insisting that everyone who's overweight is to blame for their body size, and could be thin if they just worked a little harder at it? Because based on my own personal experience, that's not all there is to it.

+1. My mil is one of those unicorns I guess. She’s very petite-5 feet and maybe 90 pounds-no matter what she eats.

But the “no matter what she eats” doesn’t equal all that many calories over a day and on a regular basis. I had a room mate like this. She would bake a batch of brownies and eat the whole pan! But it was literally all she eat the whole day and then she wouldn’t be hungry again until half way through the next day.

And you are assuming your former roommate and PP's MIL eat exactly the same way because?

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Anonymous wrote:I‘ve never been overweight, but I don’t think counting calories is healthy. No naturally think woman I know counts calories.

This is a chicken and egg thing. Naturally thin women don't HAVE to count calories,...because they're naturally thin. Those of who have to count would prefer not to, of course. Would be thrilled to be naturally skinny without having to count anything. And no I don't eat junk, drink soda, or even alcohol.

There's no such thing as naturally thin. Women who have always been thin were raised not eating junk food for every meal or eating too much. Their eating doesn't change because they have always ate at or under what they need to to be thin. No such thing as naturally thin.

There is such a thing, because I am thin without working at it, as was my mom, as was her mom. Genetics are indeed a thing.

right, but the genetics didn't make you thin what makes you thin are you eating habits and movement. Appetite, eating habits, how accurately your brain is able to your want for food vs your need for food. So while it doesn't feel like work to you, someone else eating the same portions and items you are eating that has a much larger appetite and some sugar addictions is going to have to "work" to stay thin

I don't exercise (so there goes the movement factor) and I eat what I want with no portion control. You are correct that someone else could eat the same sleeve of thin mints or pint of ice cream with different results. That's genetics.

Oh you sweet little unicorn. We believe you.

I seriously don't get the point you're trying to make. Are you insisting that everyone who's overweight is to blame for their body size, and could be thin if they just worked a little harder at it? Because based on my own personal experience, that's not all there is to it.

+1. My mil is one of those unicorns I guess. She’s very petite-5 feet and maybe 90 pounds-no matter what she eats.

But the “no matter what she eats” doesn’t equal all that many calories over a day and on a regular basis. I had a room mate like this. She would bake a batch of brownies and eat the whole pan! But it was literally all she eat the whole day and then she wouldn’t be hungry again until half way through the next day.

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Anonymous wrote:I‘ve never been overweight, but I don’t think counting calories is healthy. No naturally think woman I know counts calories.

This is a chicken and egg thing. Naturally thin women don't HAVE to count calories,...because they're naturally thin. Those of who have to count would prefer not to, of course. Would be thrilled to be naturally skinny without having to count anything. And no I don't eat junk, drink soda, or even alcohol.

There's no such thing as naturally thin. Women who have always been thin were raised not eating junk food for every meal or eating too much. Their eating doesn't change because they have always ate at or under what they need to to be thin. No such thing as naturally thin.

There is such a thing, because I am thin without working at it, as was my mom, as was her mom. Genetics are indeed a thing.

right, but the genetics didn't make you thin what makes you thin are you eating habits and movement. Appetite, eating habits, how accurately your brain is able to your want for food vs your need for food. So while it doesn't feel like work to you, someone else eating the same portions and items you are eating that has a much larger appetite and some sugar addictions is going to have to "work" to stay thin

I don't exercise (so there goes the movement factor) and I eat what I want with no portion control. You are correct that someone else could eat the same sleeve of thin mints or pint of ice cream with different results. That's genetics.

Oh you sweet little unicorn. We believe you.

I seriously don't get the point you're trying to make. Are you insisting that everyone who's overweight is to blame for their body size, and could be thin if they just worked a little harder at it? Because based on my own personal experience, that's not all there is to it.

+1. My mil is one of those unicorns I guess. She’s very petite-5 feet and maybe 90 pounds-no matter what she eats.

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Anonymous wrote:I‘ve never been overweight, but I don’t think counting calories is healthy. No naturally think woman I know counts calories.

This is a chicken and egg thing. Naturally thin women don't HAVE to count calories,...because they're naturally thin. Those of who have to count would prefer not to, of course. Would be thrilled to be naturally skinny without having to count anything. And no I don't eat junk, drink soda, or even alcohol.

There's no such thing as naturally thin. Women who have always been thin were raised not eating junk food for every meal or eating too much. Their eating doesn't change because they have always ate at or under what they need to to be thin. No such thing as naturally thin.

There is such a thing, because I am thin without working at it, as was my mom, as was her mom. Genetics are indeed a thing.

right, but the genetics didn't make you thin what makes you thin are you eating habits and movement. Appetite, eating habits, how accurately your brain is able to your want for food vs your need for food. So while it doesn't feel like work to you, someone else eating the same portions and items you are eating that has a much larger appetite and some sugar addictions is going to have to "work" to stay thin

I don't exercise (so there goes the movement factor) and I eat what I want with no portion control. You are correct that someone else could eat the same sleeve of thin mints or pint of ice cream with different results. That's genetics.

Oh you sweet little unicorn. We believe you.

I seriously don't get the point you're trying to make. Are you insisting that everyone who's overweight is to blame for their body size, and could be thin if they just worked a little harder at it? Because based on my own personal experience, that's not all there is to it.

There is more of course. But yes, a large part of why people are overweight is due to what they eat/don’t eat and lifestyle. While thin lady may eat a sleeve of thin mints, she might have a cup of coffee, sleeve of thin mints, then nothing until dinner. No 40+ sedentary woman is burning 3000+ calories per day. Sorry just isn’t happening, “good” genes or not. So while you may eat what you want and whatever portion, it still balances out to be what your body is burning.

Once someone is already overweight, the deficit needed to lose a significant amount of weight and keep it off is REALLY hard to maintain. But no one is born overweight. Some people are prone to eating more than their body need and don’t have good natural regulation. If not constantly kept in check starting in childhood, then weight piles on and usually stays on.

So if the bolded is not genetics, what is it?

I'm not following your logic, but perhaps that's because I'm a sweet little unicorn. Though apparently there are at least two of us.

The genetics component is appetite control, not a unicorn metabolism

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Anonymous wrote:I‘ve never been overweight, but I don’t think counting calories is healthy. No naturally think woman I know counts calories.

This is a chicken and egg thing. Naturally thin women don't HAVE to count calories,...because they're naturally thin. Those of who have to count would prefer not to, of course. Would be thrilled to be naturally skinny without having to count anything. And no I don't eat junk, drink soda, or even alcohol.

There's no such thing as naturally thin. Women who have always been thin were raised not eating junk food for every meal or eating too much. Their eating doesn't change because they have always ate at or under what they need to to be thin. No such thing as naturally thin.

There is such a thing, because I am thin without working at it, as was my mom, as was her mom. Genetics are indeed a thing.

right, but the genetics didn't make you thin what makes you thin are you eating habits and movement. Appetite, eating habits, how accurately your brain is able to your want for food vs your need for food. So while it doesn't feel like work to you, someone else eating the same portions and items you are eating that has a much larger appetite and some sugar addictions is going to have to "work" to stay thin

I don't exercise (so there goes the movement factor) and I eat what I want with no portion control. You are correct that someone else could eat the same sleeve of thin mints or pint of ice cream with different results. That's genetics.

Oh you sweet little unicorn. We believe you.

I seriously don't get the point you're trying to make. Are you insisting that everyone who's overweight is to blame for their body size, and could be thin if they just worked a little harder at it? Because based on my own personal experience, that's not all there is to it.

There is more of course. But yes, a large part of why people are overweight is due to what they eat/don’t eat and lifestyle. While thin lady may eat a sleeve of thin mints, she might have a cup of coffee, sleeve of thin mints, then nothing until dinner. No 40+ sedentary woman is burning 3000+ calories per day. Sorry just isn’t happening, “good” genes or not. So while you may eat what you want and whatever portion, it still balances out to be what your body is burning.

Once someone is already overweight, the deficit needed to lose a significant amount of weight and keep it off is REALLY hard to maintain. But no one is born overweight. Some people are prone to eating more than their body need and don’t have good natural regulation. If not constantly kept in check starting in childhood, then weight piles on and usually stays on.

So if the bolded is not genetics, what is it?

I'm not following your logic, but perhaps that's because I'm a sweet little unicorn. Though apparently there are at least two of us.

I agree, once you are overweight, you need to do ALOT to lose weight. Alot more movement, controlled eating. You don't have to do alot of running, you just have to walk ALOT at a pace that keeps your heartrate constant. If it is taking you 30 minutes to walk a mile, that is TOO slow. If you are done walking and you say, that was easy, then you were walking too slow. If you were able to talk in complete long sentences during your walk, that was too slow. So, stop talking and move faster.

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Anonymous wrote:I‘ve never been overweight, but I don’t think counting calories is healthy. No naturally think woman I know counts calories.

This is a chicken and egg thing. Naturally thin women don't HAVE to count calories,...because they're naturally thin. Those of who have to count would prefer not to, of course. Would be thrilled to be naturally skinny without having to count anything. And no I don't eat junk, drink soda, or even alcohol.

There's no such thing as naturally thin. Women who have always been thin were raised not eating junk food for every meal or eating too much. Their eating doesn't change because they have always ate at or under what they need to to be thin. No such thing as naturally thin.

There is such a thing, because I am thin without working at it, as was my mom, as was her mom. Genetics are indeed a thing.

right, but the genetics didn't make you thin what makes you thin are you eating habits and movement. Appetite, eating habits, how accurately your brain is able to your want for food vs your need for food. So while it doesn't feel like work to you, someone else eating the same portions and items you are eating that has a much larger appetite and some sugar addictions is going to have to "work" to stay thin

I don't exercise (so there goes the movement factor) and I eat what I want with no portion control. You are correct that someone else could eat the same sleeve of thin mints or pint of ice cream with different results. That's genetics.

Oh you sweet little unicorn. We believe you.

I seriously don't get the point you're trying to make. Are you insisting that everyone who's overweight is to blame for their body size, and could be thin if they just worked a little harder at it? Because based on my own personal experience, that's not all there is to it.

There is more of course. But yes, a large part of why people are overweight is due to what they eat/don’t eat and lifestyle. While thin lady may eat a sleeve of thin mints, she might have a cup of coffee, sleeve of thin mints, then nothing until dinner. No 40+ sedentary woman is burning 3000+ calories per day. Sorry just isn’t happening, “good” genes or not. So while you may eat what you want and whatever portion, it still balances out to be what your body is burning.

Once someone is already overweight, the deficit needed to lose a significant amount of weight and keep it off is REALLY hard to maintain. But no one is born overweight. Some people are prone to eating more than their body need and don’t have good natural regulation. If not constantly kept in check starting in childhood, then weight piles on and usually stays on.

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Anonymous wrote:I‘ve never been overweight, but I don’t think counting calories is healthy. No naturally think woman I know counts calories.

This is a chicken and egg thing. Naturally thin women don't HAVE to count calories,...because they're naturally thin. Those of who have to count would prefer not to, of course. Would be thrilled to be naturally skinny without having to count anything. And no I don't eat junk, drink soda, or even alcohol.

There's no such thing as naturally thin. Women who have always been thin were raised not eating junk food for every meal or eating too much. Their eating doesn't change because they have always ate at or under what they need to to be thin. No such thing as naturally thin.

There is such a thing, because I am thin without working at it, as was my mom, as was her mom. Genetics are indeed a thing.

right, but the genetics didn't make you thin what makes you thin are you eating habits and movement. Appetite, eating habits, how accurately your brain is able to your want for food vs your need for food. So while it doesn't feel like work to you, someone else eating the same portions and items you are eating that has a much larger appetite and some sugar addictions is going to have to "work" to stay thin

I don't exercise (so there goes the movement factor) and I eat what I want with no portion control. You are correct that someone else could eat the same sleeve of thin mints or pint of ice cream with different results. That's genetics.

Oh you sweet little unicorn. We believe you.

I seriously don't get the point you're trying to make. Are you insisting that everyone who's overweight is to blame for their body size, and could be thin if they just worked a little harder at it? Because based on my own personal experience, that's not all there is to it.

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Anonymous wrote:I‘ve never been overweight, but I don’t think counting calories is healthy. No naturally think woman I know counts calories.

This is a chicken and egg thing. Naturally thin women don't HAVE to count calories,...because they're naturally thin. Those of who have to count would prefer not to, of course. Would be thrilled to be naturally skinny without having to count anything. And no I don't eat junk, drink soda, or even alcohol.

There's no such thing as naturally thin. Women who have always been thin were raised not eating junk food for every meal or eating too much. Their eating doesn't change because they have always ate at or under what they need to to be thin. No such thing as naturally thin.

There is such a thing, because I am thin without working at it, as was my mom, as was her mom. Genetics are indeed a thing.

right, but the genetics didn't make you thin what makes you thin are you eating habits and movement. Appetite, eating habits, how accurately your brain is able to your want for food vs your need for food. So while it doesn't feel like work to you, someone else eating the same portions and items you are eating that has a much larger appetite and some sugar addictions is going to have to "work" to stay thin

DP. I think genetics help make me thin. I literally have small bones.

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Anonymous wrote:I‘ve never been overweight, but I don’t think counting calories is healthy. No naturally think woman I know counts calories.

This is a chicken and egg thing. Naturally thin women don't HAVE to count calories,...because they're naturally thin. Those of who have to count would prefer not to, of course. Would be thrilled to be naturally skinny without having to count anything. And no I don't eat junk, drink soda, or even alcohol.

There's no such thing as naturally thin. Women who have always been thin were raised not eating junk food for every meal or eating too much. Their eating doesn't change because they have always ate at or under what they need to to be thin. No such thing as naturally thin.

There is such a thing, because I am thin without working at it, as was my mom, as was her mom. Genetics are indeed a thing.

right, but the genetics didn't make you thin what makes you thin are you eating habits and movement. Appetite, eating habits, how accurately your brain is able to your want for food vs your need for food. So while it doesn't feel like work to you, someone else eating the same portions and items you are eating that has a much larger appetite and some sugar addictions is going to have to "work" to stay thin

I don't exercise (so there goes the movement factor) and I eat what I want with no portion control. You are correct that someone else could eat the same sleeve of thin mints or pint of ice cream with different results. That's genetics.

Oh you sweet little unicorn. We believe you.

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Anonymous wrote:I‘ve never been overweight, but I don’t think counting calories is healthy. No naturally think woman I know counts calories.

This is a chicken and egg thing. Naturally thin women don't HAVE to count calories,...because they're naturally thin. Those of who have to count would prefer not to, of course. Would be thrilled to be naturally skinny without having to count anything. And no I don't eat junk, drink soda, or even alcohol.

There's no such thing as naturally thin. Women who have always been thin were raised not eating junk food for every meal or eating too much. Their eating doesn't change because they have always ate at or under what they need to to be thin. No such thing as naturally thin.

There is such a thing, because I am thin without working at it, as was my mom, as was her mom. Genetics are indeed a thing.

right, but the genetics didn't make you thin what makes you thin are you eating habits and movement. Appetite, eating habits, how accurately your brain is able to your want for food vs your need for food. So while it doesn't feel like work to you, someone else eating the same portions and items you are eating that has a much larger appetite and some sugar addictions is going to have to "work" to stay thin

I don't exercise (so there goes the movement factor) and I eat what I want with no portion control. You are correct that someone else could eat the same sleeve of thin mints or pint of ice cream with different results. That's genetics.

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Anonymous wrote:I‘ve never been overweight, but I don’t think counting calories is healthy. No naturally think woman I know counts calories.

This is a chicken and egg thing. Naturally thin women don't HAVE to count calories,...because they're naturally thin. Those of who have to count would prefer not to, of course. Would be thrilled to be naturally skinny without having to count anything. And no I don't eat junk, drink soda, or even alcohol.

There's no such thing as naturally thin. Women who have always been thin were raised not eating junk food for every meal or eating too much. Their eating doesn't change because they have always ate at or under what they need to to be thin. No such thing as naturally thin.

There is such a thing, because I am thin without working at it, as was my mom, as was her mom. Genetics are indeed a thing.

right, but the genetics didn't make you thin what makes you thin are you eating habits and movement. Appetite, eating habits, how accurately your brain is able to your want for food vs your need for food. So while it doesn't feel like work to you, someone else eating the same portions and items you are eating that has a much larger appetite and some sugar addictions is going to have to "work" to stay thin

I started metformin for prediabetes and dropped 15-20 lbs immediately. Still eat the same things mostly, but less. Less dessert, less bread. And i havent been exercising because i started a new busy job— i need to work that in somehow. Anyway in my case it turns out my body wasnt processing sugar well, so medicine made all the difference. Im 5’4, 130 lbs now.

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Anonymous wrote:I‘ve never been overweight, but I don’t think counting calories is healthy. No naturally think woman I know counts calories.

This is a chicken and egg thing. Naturally thin women don't HAVE to count calories,...because they're naturally thin. Those of who have to count would prefer not to, of course. Would be thrilled to be naturally skinny without having to count anything. And no I don't eat junk, drink soda, or even alcohol.

There's no such thing as naturally thin. Women who have always been thin were raised not eating junk food for every meal or eating too much. Their eating doesn't change because they have always ate at or under what they need to to be thin. No such thing as naturally thin.

There is such a thing, because I am thin without working at it, as was my mom, as was her mom. Genetics are indeed a thing.