Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 17:03     Subject: Hypocrite athletes living in the US and competing for other countries
So much hatred in this thread. Way to go! I would like to see the posters get off their obese American asses and try to skate or ski at the level these young women do. If you are not aware, the United States or private companies do not invest a penny in growing athletes like other countries do. They provide literal nothing. The parents of these women paid for private lessons, equipment, coaches etc so they don’t owe anything to this country. Nothing .
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 13:27     Subject: Hypocrite athletes living in the US and competing for other countries
I haven't even been interested at all in the Olympics this year. They should have been pulled from China or cancelled after this Covid debacle, so I'm over it entirely.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 13:25     Subject: Hypocrite athletes living in the US and competing for other countries
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am very surprised by the hate towards a 18-year old Asian American. There are white Americans who are coaching the Chinese teams in the Olympics. Vic Wild from US competed for Russia. None of them get any mention in the media or social media. Looks like a race related thing.

Thomas Bach, the head of IOC, appealed to world to "give peace a chance". It seems that the cold war warriors have zero interest to do so. Not only that, they accuse others who don't follow their order as traitors.


Give peace a chance? Just look at China’s actions towards the people of Hong Kong and Taiwan in recent years. Not sure how the IOC could talk about “peace” with China with a straight face.

You are right - we should be equally critical of all Americans who choose to compete for oppressive regimes like China, Russia, North Korea, etc.



US is not so much peace loving either, according to Jimmy Carter (see the leak below), and invaded Iraq for manufactured allegations that resulted in tens of thousands of civilian deaths.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/04/18/jimmy-carter-us-most-warlike-nation-history-world

China certainly cracked down on the freedom in HK, but how many deaths resulted from the police action? I know for a fact that in the 2019 protest there is zero death in the hand of police.



The CCP killed millions of their own people during the 20th century. They are ethnic cleansing Uyghurs. They are cleansing out Mongolians in Inner Mongolia, which is a territory they invaded and annexed. I love how one has to come from a country with a 100% clean record of morality in order to be able to lodge any criticisms of current ongoing issues that are wrong. Sure, the US has made many gaffes in its history and it has done bad things. Unlike China or Russia, however, at least our citizens talk about it and are open to criticizing it. We even protest over it. If you look at enough history, no country ever has a clean conscience/slate. It's a tired and true tactic of CCP and Russian propagandist mouthpieces to always divert to whataboutisms and history in order to try to deflect. How much do you get paid per hour over there in Beijing?



Blame Carter for my propaganda. lol.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 13:14     Subject: Hypocrite athletes living in the US and competing for other countries
Anonymous wrote:ok, so no one is without fault. But we are talking about a country that is currently engaging in genocide against one of their ethnic minorities and has has violently seized power over HK. They kill and/or disappear ANYONE who disagrees with the gov't. They are also helping other oppressive regimes and raping the third world for resources. And the world is supposed to just say "That's just China being China"?

No. The IOC absolutely should have pulled the Olympics out of China.


Just curious, do you think OIC should have pulled the Olympics out from Park City which bribed to get it?

Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 12:34     Subject: Hypocrite athletes living in the US and competing for other countries
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am very surprised by the hate towards a 18-year old Asian American. There are white Americans who are coaching the Chinese teams in the Olympics. Vic Wild from US competed for Russia. None of them get any mention in the media or social media. Looks like a race related thing.

Thomas Bach, the head of IOC, appealed to world to "give peace a chance". It seems that the cold war warriors have zero interest to do so. Not only that, they accuse others who don't follow their order as traitors.


Give peace a chance? Just look at China’s actions towards the people of Hong Kong and Taiwan in recent years. Not sure how the IOC could talk about “peace” with China with a straight face.

You are right - we should be equally critical of all Americans who choose to compete for oppressive regimes like China, Russia, North Korea, etc.



US is not so much peace loving either, according to Jimmy Carter (see the leak below), and invaded Iraq for manufactured allegations that resulted in tens of thousands of civilian deaths.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/04/18/jimmy-carter-us-most-warlike-nation-history-world

China certainly cracked down on the freedom in HK, but how many deaths resulted from the police action? I know for a fact that in the 2019 protest there is zero death in the hand of police.



The CCP killed millions of their own people during the 20th century. They are ethnic cleansing Uyghurs. They are cleansing out Mongolians in Inner Mongolia, which is a territory they invaded and annexed. I love how one has to come from a country with a 100% clean record of morality in order to be able to lodge any criticisms of current ongoing issues that are wrong. Sure, the US has made many gaffes in its history and it has done bad things. Unlike China or Russia, however, at least our citizens talk about it and are open to criticizing it. We even protest over it. If you look at enough history, no country ever has a clean conscience/slate. It's a tired and true tactic of CCP and Russian propagandist mouthpieces to always divert to whataboutisms and history in order to try to deflect. How much do you get paid per hour over there in Beijing?


She is only 18 years old. Her decision to ski for China was made three years ago when she was 15. How many 15 or 18 years old kids care about politics and human right ?
She could be the richest Olympiad Good Medalist in 2022.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 12:24     Subject: Hypocrite athletes living in the US and competing for other countries
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Eileen Gu is so sharp. Here is her answer to people like OP: "I know that I have a good heart, and I know my reasons for making the decisions I do are based on a greater common interest and something I feel is for the greater good," she said. "If other people don't really believe that that's where I'm coming from, then that just reflects that they do not have the empathy to empathize with a good heart, perhaps because they don't share the same kind of morals that I do."

"In that sense, I'm not going to waste my time trying to placate people who are, one, uneducated and, two, probably never going to experience the kind of joy and gratitude and love that I have the great fortune to experience on a daily basis," Gu said. "If people don't like me, that's their loss. They're never going to win the Olympics."


Haha. Someday she’ll learn adults can see through BS like this. Maybe not the uneducated though!

A prop manufactured for a totalitarian regime if I ever saw one.


Why do you care who she skis for? Seriously, these are professional athletes.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 12:23     Subject: Hypocrite athletes living in the US and competing for other countries
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am very surprised by the hate towards a 18-year old Asian American. There are white Americans who are coaching the Chinese teams in the Olympics. Vic Wild from US competed for Russia. None of them get any mention in the media or social media. Looks like a race related thing.

Thomas Bach, the head of IOC, appealed to world to "give peace a chance". It seems that the cold war warriors have zero interest to do so. Not only that, they accuse others who don't follow their order as traitors.


Give peace a chance? Just look at China’s actions towards the people of Hong Kong and Taiwan in recent years. Not sure how the IOC could talk about “peace” with China with a straight face.

You are right - we should be equally critical of all Americans who choose to compete for oppressive regimes like China, Russia, North Korea, etc.



US is not so much peace loving either, according to Jimmy Carter (see the leak below), and invaded Iraq for manufactured allegations that resulted in tens of thousands of civilian deaths.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/04/18/jimmy-carter-us-most-warlike-nation-history-world

China certainly cracked down on the freedom in HK, but how many deaths resulted from the police action? I know for a fact that in the 2019 protest there is zero death in the hand of police.



The CCP killed millions of their own people during the 20th century. They are ethnic cleansing Uyghurs. They are cleansing out Mongolians in Inner Mongolia, which is a territory they invaded and annexed. I love how one has to come from a country with a 100% clean record of morality in order to be able to lodge any criticisms of current ongoing issues that are wrong. Sure, the US has made many gaffes in its history and it has done bad things. Unlike China or Russia, however, at least our citizens talk about it and are open to criticizing it. We even protest over it. If you look at enough history, no country ever has a clean conscience/slate. It's a tired and true tactic of CCP and Russian propagandist mouthpieces to always divert to whataboutisms and history in order to try to deflect. How much do you get paid per hour over there in Beijing?
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 12:17     Subject: Hypocrite athletes living in the US and competing for other countries
Anonymous wrote:Eileen Gu is so sharp. Here is her answer to people like OP: "I know that I have a good heart, and I know my reasons for making the decisions I do are based on a greater common interest and something I feel is for the greater good," she said. "If other people don't really believe that that's where I'm coming from, then that just reflects that they do not have the empathy to empathize with a good heart, perhaps because they don't share the same kind of morals that I do."

"In that sense, I'm not going to waste my time trying to placate people who are, one, uneducated and, two, probably never going to experience the kind of joy and gratitude and love that I have the great fortune to experience on a daily basis," Gu said. "If people don't like me, that's their loss. They're never going to win the Olympics."


Haha. Someday she’ll learn adults can see through BS like this. Maybe not the uneducated though!

A prop manufactured for a totalitarian regime if I ever saw one.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 11:58     Subject: Hypocrite athletes living in the US and competing for other countries
The PRC does not allow dual nationality.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 11:35     Subject: Re:Hypocrite athletes living in the US and competing for other countries
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It happens more often than you think. My DC was an Elite Olympic sport athlete, still holds several college records and had a few friends who parents where from another country. They got dual citizenship for the chance to compete, wasnt as good as my DC. DC finished top 10 in trials / NCAA, but never made an Olympic team.


I imagine Gu could have made the US team? She chose to compete for China.


Dual citizenship is not the same as two citizenships.


Huh? Please explain.


Dual citizenship is mutual recognition of your double citizenship countries by these two countries; that is, they realize you are a citizen of both and recognize you as such, with mutual rights and responsibilities. It is usually governed by a treaty between two specific countries.

Two citizenships is just that; you hold two passports. Or more. When you're in one country, you're treated as a citizen of that country. When you're in the other country, you're treated as a citizen of that country. Both countries behave as if in their eyes, your "other" citizenship does not exist.

Can you give an example of a dual citizenship situation? I've never heard of a second citizenship making a difference in how you're treated by the other country that you're a citizen of.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 11:13     Subject: Hypocrite athletes living in the US and competing for other countries
ok, so no one is without fault. But we are talking about a country that is currently engaging in genocide against one of their ethnic minorities and has has violently seized power over HK. They kill and/or disappear ANYONE who disagrees with the gov't. They are also helping other oppressive regimes and raping the third world for resources. And the world is supposed to just say "That's just China being China"?

No. The IOC absolutely should have pulled the Olympics out of China.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 10:42     Subject: Hypocrite athletes living in the US and competing for other countries
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am very surprised by the hate towards a 18-year old Asian American. There are white Americans who are coaching the Chinese teams in the Olympics. Vic Wild from US competed for Russia. None of them get any mention in the media or social media. Looks like a race related thing.

Thomas Bach, the head of IOC, appealed to world to "give peace a chance". It seems that the cold war warriors have zero interest to do so. Not only that, they accuse others who don't follow their order as traitors.


Give peace a chance? Just look at China’s actions towards the people of Hong Kong and Taiwan in recent years. Not sure how the IOC could talk about “peace” with China with a straight face.

You are right - we should be equally critical of all Americans who choose to compete for oppressive regimes like China, Russia, North Korea, etc.


What you should be doing it taking a critical look at all the misery and suffering the U.S. has been spreading around the planet. This is not a country that should be lecturing others on democracy or human rights.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 09:33     Subject: Hypocrite athletes living in the US and competing for other countries
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am very surprised by the hate towards a 18-year old Asian American. There are white Americans who are coaching the Chinese teams in the Olympics. Vic Wild from US competed for Russia. None of them get any mention in the media or social media. Looks like a race related thing.

Thomas Bach, the head of IOC, appealed to world to "give peace a chance". It seems that the cold war warriors have zero interest to do so. Not only that, they accuse others who don't follow their order as traitors.


Give peace a chance? Just look at China’s actions towards the people of Hong Kong and Taiwan in recent years. Not sure how the IOC could talk about “peace” with China with a straight face.

You are right - we should be equally critical of all Americans who choose to compete for oppressive regimes like China, Russia, North Korea, etc.



US is not so much peace loving either, according to Jimmy Carter (see the leak below), and invaded Iraq for manufactured allegations that resulted in tens of thousands of civilian deaths.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/04/18/jimmy-carter-us-most-warlike-nation-history-world

China certainly cracked down on the freedom in HK, but how many deaths resulted from the police action? I know for a fact that in the 2019 protest there is zero death in the hand of police.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 09:07     Subject: Hypocrite athletes living in the US and competing for other countries
Anonymous wrote:I am very surprised by the hate towards a 18-year old Asian American. There are white Americans who are coaching the Chinese teams in the Olympics. Vic Wild from US competed for Russia. None of them get any mention in the media or social media. Looks like a race related thing.

Thomas Bach, the head of IOC, appealed to world to "give peace a chance". It seems that the cold war warriors have zero interest to do so. Not only that, they accuse others who don't follow their order as traitors.


Give peace a chance? Just look at China’s actions towards the people of Hong Kong and Taiwan in recent years. Not sure how the IOC could talk about “peace” with China with a straight face.

You are right - we should be equally critical of all Americans who choose to compete for oppressive regimes like China, Russia, North Korea, etc.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 08:55     Subject: Hypocrite athletes living in the US and competing for other countries
Anonymous wrote:Eileen Gu is so sharp. Here is her answer to people like OP: "I know that I have a good heart, and I know my reasons for making the decisions I do are based on a greater common interest and something I feel is for the greater good," she said. "If other people don't really believe that that's where I'm coming from, then that just reflects that they do not have the empathy to empathize with a good heart, perhaps because they don't share the same kind of morals that I do."

"In that sense, I'm not going to waste my time trying to placate people who are, one, uneducated and, two, probably never going to experience the kind of joy and gratitude and love that I have the great fortune to experience on a daily basis," Gu said. "If people don't like me, that's their loss. They're never going to win the Olympics."


Puke...narcissist