Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 14:25     Subject: Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:Wait hold up, the staff can return in 5 days? Are they following the new cdc guidance? I believe they have to be asymptomatic *and* have a negative test (which may be hard to get right now)


They don't have to have a test.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 14:24     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now that we know that the schools are going to stay open, I will expect more covid cases in the next few weeks, could be a good thing, who knows? When that happens I'd like to see how MCPS handle absences from teachers, school staff and bus drivers. No dog on this game anymore, just want the surge to end and get back to normal like last year.


I am confident it will get better not worse. Meaning all of the staff that have had it already will be good to go and the rest can slowly take off and come back in 5 days. Just like healthcare workers. This variant may very well be how we get out of this mess. Everyone gets it and moves on.


+1. Finally a more sensible approach to this mess!


I'm actually interested how many teachers in my school already had covid. I know that there were alot of cases in December, and maybe more during break. It would be helpful to get this info so we have an expectation on how many teachers could possibly get infected/ out of school and to plan accordingly.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 14:24     Subject: Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:Wait hold up, the staff can return in 5 days? Are they following the new cdc guidance? I believe they have to be asymptomatic *and* have a negative test (which may be hard to get right now)


Maryland Department of Health adopted the CDC guidelines, so they should be able to return in five days. That will help the staffing.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 14:24     Subject: Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:Get rid of the rapid tests at school and the health rooms. No one wants to pick up a sick kid from school anyway. What difference does it make in the end … if it’s virtual at all cost why bother with the rest. Why test, why quarantine . It’s ok , the kids want to stay in school so we should listen to them.


Desantis has entered the chat.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 14:23     Subject: Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:I loudly advocated staying virtual in 2020, and now I think the kids should stay in school as long as there are adequate staff to keep things going. I don't have to admit I was "wrong" about 2020 to think kids should be in school now. In 2020 catching covid was a serious risk to any adult's health, and the risk/benefit just didn't seem positive, particularly given how slow everyone was to admit the thing was airborne and wanted to talk about hand sanitizer all the time. Now it's much less dangerous (please get your boosters, people with them seem to be sailing through their covid infections), and the balance has shifted for me in favor of in person school. I don't buy closing for controlling community spread, not if we're keeping the malls open and stuff. I do feel for the parents with vulnerable people at home, I just don't think the kids should be the ones paying the price for our failures to keep things under better control.


agree
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 14:23     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Okay, here's a real translation.

"We were afraid of the very vocal absolutely-no-virtual parents, because they are disproportionately well-off and powerful and know how to get attention. Even though the data suggested we were in for a sh!tshow and it might be best to go virtual for a few weeks to ride off the omicron sugre, we tried to create a school-by-school metric that might at least exclude at least THOSE people's schools from having to go virtual.

Since wealthier, whiter and more-vaccinated people have lower rates of actual infection and spread of COVID, we thought, hey, we're geniuses. Whoever made/insisted upon this plan didn't consider that purely self-reported data was going to have the opposite effect, because the same people who are wealthier, whiter and more-vaccinated are also the ones more likely to speak fluent English, have time to be highly informed, understand the procedures and have or find access to tests. Thus though the spread may be the same or lower in, say, the Whitman cluster than the Wheaton or Blair clusters, the way this whole mess was designed, the Whitman people were more likely to have their schools shut down.

So we are uhhhhh not just asking everyone to go virtual for a week or three, like we should have in the first place, but making these decisions, based on highly inaccurate data, even more granular and more needlessly complicated. Because there will be hell to pay if Larla with the "red" Burning Tree kid has to go virtual under almost any circumstances-- and we don't really GAF about Larlette with the "green" New Hampshire Estates kids, who is confused and scared and kept her kids out of school last spring because she lives with her grandparents and she can't afford to get sick."

HTH


Look, I get why you think that. But if that were true, my kid would have gotten more than 20 days in school last year. It's simply not true.

The only thing that has ever caused them to change course, or expedite anything, has been pressure from the state.

Hogan had to pressure them to return last year.

And this switch came after the State called out their BS about following state guidelines.


This is true.

And the ReOpen group would be wise to stop wasting time writing/calling/testifying with the local admins and Board; they just don't care. And instead, spend all that time advocating at the state level. The only way MCPS will react is if somebody higher on the food chain tells them to. They just don't listen to families (regardless of your stance on in-person/virtual; if you are just a parent, they do not care)


DP and no, it's not true. It's such a moronic, one-sided take on the issue. It's like you're stuck in 2020. We have vaccines now, most people in MoCo who are eligible got them, Omicron is less severe, etc.

AND now we know what a disaster DL truly was, even though people like you can't admit you were wrong to insist on it for so long. I mean, what reputable scientific/medical expert agrees that DL is needed now?


You can’t use omicron as basis for making an assessment. Delta was deadlier for sure and the next one might as well.



Since Omicron is overwhelmingly the dominant variant *now*, yes, we can consider it the basis for making an assessment *now*.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 14:21     Subject: Covid Update from Central Office

Wait hold up, the staff can return in 5 days? Are they following the new cdc guidance? I believe they have to be asymptomatic *and* have a negative test (which may be hard to get right now)
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 14:20     Subject: Covid Update from Central Office

Get rid of the rapid tests at school and the health rooms. No one wants to pick up a sick kid from school anyway. What difference does it make in the end … if it’s virtual at all cost why bother with the rest. Why test, why quarantine . It’s ok , the kids want to stay in school so we should listen to them.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 14:16     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now that we know that the schools are going to stay open, I will expect more covid cases in the next few weeks, could be a good thing, who knows? When that happens I'd like to see how MCPS handle absences from teachers, school staff and bus drivers. No dog on this game anymore, just want the surge to end and get back to normal like last year.


I am confident it will get better not worse. Meaning all of the staff that have had it already will be good to go and the rest can slowly take off and come back in 5 days. Just like healthcare workers. This variant may very well be how we get out of this mess. Everyone gets it and moves on.


+1. Finally a more sensible approach to this mess!
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 14:15     Subject: Covid Update from Central Office

This too shall pass. Hopefully Omicron will burn itself out by February.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 14:14     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:Now that we know that the schools are going to stay open, I will expect more covid cases in the next few weeks, could be a good thing, who knows? When that happens I'd like to see how MCPS handle absences from teachers, school staff and bus drivers. No dog on this game anymore, just want the surge to end and get back to normal like last year.


I am confident it will get better not worse. Meaning all of the staff that have had it already will be good to go and the rest can slowly take off and come back in 5 days. Just like healthcare workers. This variant may very well be how we get out of this mess. Everyone gets it and moves on.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 14:14     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Okay, here's a real translation.

"We were afraid of the very vocal absolutely-no-virtual parents, because they are disproportionately well-off and powerful and know how to get attention. Even though the data suggested we were in for a sh!tshow and it might be best to go virtual for a few weeks to ride off the omicron sugre, we tried to create a school-by-school metric that might at least exclude at least THOSE people's schools from having to go virtual.

Since wealthier, whiter and more-vaccinated people have lower rates of actual infection and spread of COVID, we thought, hey, we're geniuses. Whoever made/insisted upon this plan didn't consider that purely self-reported data was going to have the opposite effect, because the same people who are wealthier, whiter and more-vaccinated are also the ones more likely to speak fluent English, have time to be highly informed, understand the procedures and have or find access to tests. Thus though the spread may be the same or lower in, say, the Whitman cluster than the Wheaton or Blair clusters, the way this whole mess was designed, the Whitman people were more likely to have their schools shut down.

So we are uhhhhh not just asking everyone to go virtual for a week or three, like we should have in the first place, but making these decisions, based on highly inaccurate data, even more granular and more needlessly complicated. Because there will be hell to pay if Larla with the "red" Burning Tree kid has to go virtual under almost any circumstances-- and we don't really GAF about Larlette with the "green" New Hampshire Estates kids, who is confused and scared and kept her kids out of school last spring because she lives with her grandparents and she can't afford to get sick."

HTH


Look, I get why you think that. But if that were true, my kid would have gotten more than 20 days in school last year. It's simply not true.

The only thing that has ever caused them to change course, or expedite anything, has been pressure from the state.

Hogan had to pressure them to return last year.

And this switch came after the State called out their BS about following state guidelines.


This is true.

And the ReOpen group would be wise to stop wasting time writing/calling/testifying with the local admins and Board; they just don't care. And instead, spend all that time advocating at the state level. The only way MCPS will react is if somebody higher on the food chain tells them to. They just don't listen to families (regardless of your stance on in-person/virtual; if you are just a parent, they do not care)


DP and no, it's not true. It's such a moronic, one-sided take on the issue. It's like you're stuck in 2020. We have vaccines now, most people in MoCo who are eligible got them, Omicron is less severe, etc.

AND now we know what a disaster DL truly was, even though people like you can't admit you were wrong to insist on it for so long. I mean, what reputable scientific/medical expert agrees that DL is needed now?


You can’t use omicron as basis for making an assessment. Delta was deadlier for sure and the next one might as well.

Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 14:13     Subject: Covid Update from Central Office

I loudly advocated staying virtual in 2020, and now I think the kids should stay in school as long as there are adequate staff to keep things going. I don't have to admit I was "wrong" about 2020 to think kids should be in school now. In 2020 catching covid was a serious risk to any adult's health, and the risk/benefit just didn't seem positive, particularly given how slow everyone was to admit the thing was airborne and wanted to talk about hand sanitizer all the time. Now it's much less dangerous (please get your boosters, people with them seem to be sailing through their covid infections), and the balance has shifted for me in favor of in person school. I don't buy closing for controlling community spread, not if we're keeping the malls open and stuff. I do feel for the parents with vulnerable people at home, I just don't think the kids should be the ones paying the price for our failures to keep things under better control.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 14:13     Subject: Re:Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Okay, here's a real translation.

"We were afraid of the very vocal absolutely-no-virtual parents, because they are disproportionately well-off and powerful and know how to get attention. Even though the data suggested we were in for a sh!tshow and it might be best to go virtual for a few weeks to ride off the omicron sugre, we tried to create a school-by-school metric that might at least exclude at least THOSE people's schools from having to go virtual.

Since wealthier, whiter and more-vaccinated people have lower rates of actual infection and spread of COVID, we thought, hey, we're geniuses. Whoever made/insisted upon this plan didn't consider that purely self-reported data was going to have the opposite effect, because the same people who are wealthier, whiter and more-vaccinated are also the ones more likely to speak fluent English, have time to be highly informed, understand the procedures and have or find access to tests. Thus though the spread may be the same or lower in, say, the Whitman cluster than the Wheaton or Blair clusters, the way this whole mess was designed, the Whitman people were more likely to have their schools shut down.

So we are uhhhhh not just asking everyone to go virtual for a week or three, like we should have in the first place, but making these decisions, based on highly inaccurate data, even more granular and more needlessly complicated. Because there will be hell to pay if Larla with the "red" Burning Tree kid has to go virtual under almost any circumstances-- and we don't really GAF about Larlette with the "green" New Hampshire Estates kids, who is confused and scared and kept her kids out of school last spring because she lives with her grandparents and she can't afford to get sick."

HTH


Look, I get why you think that. But if that were true, my kid would have gotten more than 20 days in school last year. It's simply not true.

The only thing that has ever caused them to change course, or expedite anything, has been pressure from the state.

Hogan had to pressure them to return last year.

And this switch came after the State called out their BS about following state guidelines.


And who do you think applies pressure on Hogan? White wealthy donors.


So only wealthy white people want their kids in school? Wow.


It’s the kind of people who give him money, so he’s to them. Not that difficult to follow.


^bound to them


Is that kind of like how MCEA gives money to local politicians as well? And then they are "bound" to them?


And what’s your point? Does that negate what I said about Hogan? Is there really any doubt that when anybody receives money from anyone, their objectivity is compromised?
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2022 14:12     Subject: Covid Update from Central Office

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are so happy to see this update! Upgrade your masks everyone and go to school!


Only complete idiots think this is good news. Enjoy your kid’s subpar education for the remainder of the year, stuffed into auditoriums with no teachers. But they are socializing! (If you actually talked to your kid, you’d know the kids are absolutely miserable in the buildings right now)



Actually, I have talked to my kids about it. They absolutely want to be in school.


Mine too!!


Mine as well. I think people who say otherwise are trolls. They are kids of course they want to be with classmates!