Anonymous
12/02/2021 08:31
Subject: SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rape is an act of dominance, control, and violence. Telling someone what they can or cannot do with their own body is an act of dominance, control, and violence. Both are acts of fundamental sadism.
And they’re pretty much the only thing the GOP stands for.
Exactly. The GOP wants to fck over everyone else.
Anonymous
12/02/2021 08:06
Subject: SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)
Anonymous wrote:Rape is an act of dominance, control, and violence. Telling someone what they can or cannot do with their own body is an act of dominance, control, and violence. Both are acts of fundamental sadism.
And they’re pretty much the only thing the GOP stands for.
Anonymous
12/02/2021 07:34
Subject: SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)
BlueFredneck wrote:I'm guessing if Roe is overturned you'll see a "straight" 6-week ban coming out in several states. There'll be calls to pack the court for sure but I can't see that getting past Manchema, much less any Republicans.
The Texas bans open a Pandora's box I'm pretty sure no one really wants open. But who knows, SCOTUS may be just that stupid/blinkered/confident the Dems won't ever play that dirty.
But ... I'm not seeing how this does anything other than make the usual bicoastal suspects from Blue Fortress states (states that HRC won by >10%) angrier. And nearly all of us are just that, the usual bicoastal suspects, myself included. How many people are actually going to go from R->D or NV->D?
So yay, NY Dems win 68-30 instead of 64-34. Big whoop. CT and WA become even more Democratic. Yay, I suppose.
Does running on a platform of abortion rights do anything for Dems in the Midwest and swingy Sun Belt states? Some states seem to WANT to be in Ireland 1980.
Go ahead and call me a concern troll or an Eeyore. But when has running on abortion rights EVER won anything outside the Blue Fortress?
Given that 65% of Americans do not want Roe overturned, overturning it will make folks angry. Also there are (were?) many pro-choice Republicans that felt the government shouldn’t be involved in personal life decisions. But most of those Republicans left the party because of Trump. (Most of my GOP family is in this camp.)
BlueFredneck
12/02/2021 07:20
Subject: SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)
I'm guessing if Roe is overturned you'll see a "straight" 6-week ban coming out in several states. There'll be calls to pack the court for sure but I can't see that getting past Manchema, much less any Republicans.
The Texas bans open a Pandora's box I'm pretty sure no one really wants open. But who knows, SCOTUS may be just that stupid/blinkered/confident the Dems won't ever play that dirty.
But ... I'm not seeing how this does anything other than make the usual bicoastal suspects from Blue Fortress states (states that HRC won by >10%) angrier. And nearly all of us are just that, the usual bicoastal suspects, myself included. How many people are actually going to go from R->D or NV->D?
So yay, NY Dems win 68-30 instead of 64-34. Big whoop. CT and WA become even more Democratic. Yay, I suppose.
Does running on a platform of abortion rights do anything for Dems in the Midwest and swingy Sun Belt states? Some states seem to WANT to be in Ireland 1980.
Go ahead and call me a concern troll or an Eeyore. But when has running on abortion rights EVER won anything outside the Blue Fortress?
The Texas bans open a Pandora's box I'm pretty sure no one really wants open. But who knows, SCOTUS may be just that stupid/blinkered/confident the Dems won't ever play that dirty.
But ... I'm not seeing how this does anything other than make the usual bicoastal suspects from Blue Fortress states (states that HRC won by >10%) angrier. And nearly all of us are just that, the usual bicoastal suspects, myself included. How many people are actually going to go from R->D or NV->D?
So yay, NY Dems win 68-30 instead of 64-34. Big whoop. CT and WA become even more Democratic. Yay, I suppose.
Does running on a platform of abortion rights do anything for Dems in the Midwest and swingy Sun Belt states? Some states seem to WANT to be in Ireland 1980.
Go ahead and call me a concern troll or an Eeyore. But when has running on abortion rights EVER won anything outside the Blue Fortress?
Anonymous
12/02/2021 07:14
Subject: SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)
Rape is an act of dominance, control, and violence. Telling someone what they can or cannot do with their own body is an act of dominance, control, and violence. Both are acts of fundamental sadism.
Anonymous
12/02/2021 06:55
Subject: SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Expand the court.
Yes! SCOTUS was expanded to implement laws that the majority do NOT want.
Meant the new judges appointed are implementing/upholding laws the majority do not want.
Anonymous
12/02/2021 06:54
Subject: SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)
Anonymous wrote:Expand the court.
Yes! SCOTUS was expanded to implement laws that the majority do NOT want.
Anonymous
12/02/2021 06:47
Subject: SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)
Expand the court.
Anonymous
12/02/2021 06:46
Subject: SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Could you drop them off at a baby safe haven location?
WTF?
This was literally a question by ACB today. When all 50 states have safe haven laws and adoption exists, why does abortion need to be a thing? (paraphrasing)
Please let me know how to drop off an embryo or fetus to a safe haven. Thanks.
Anonymous
12/02/2021 06:42
Subject: SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Could you drop them off at a baby safe haven location?
WTF?
This was literally a question by ACB today. When all 50 states have safe haven laws and adoption exists, why does abortion need to be a thing? (paraphrasing)
They really asked that? They've never heard of fathers raping their daughters, 10 year olds getting pregnant, or women whose baby has died in the womb?
Wow.
She is a c**t! I can’t believe her inadequate a$$ got on the SCOTUS.
Anonymous
12/02/2021 06:39
Subject: SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Could you drop them off at a baby safe haven location?
WTF?
This was literally a question by ACB today. When all 50 states have safe haven laws and adoption exists, why does abortion need to be a thing? (paraphrasing)
They really asked that? They've never heard of fathers raping their daughters, 10 year olds getting pregnant, or women whose baby has died in the womb?
I’m tired of the horrible child/rape scenarios as justification. They’re a very small percentage of cases. But let’s talk about the vast majority of women… How about having to carry that unwanted child for 9 months? How about the cost of having that kid in our hellhole of a medical system? How about giving birth and hoping for no complications in our horrible maternal death rate country? What about time off work? No pay for recovery - parental leave is inadequate? What if there are complications and the woman must go on bed rest? Who pays her bills? What about the social stigma? It was recent history that just being married and pregnant was a source of shame!
This doesn’t even begin to address the psychological impacts! People talk about being pregnant and giving birth in the very abstract, largely because they’re men. I have had two kids, which were wanted, and I had a horrible time pregnant and actually flat-lined during my csection. Pregnancy and birth are hard when you want the baby!
Anonymous
12/02/2021 06:26
Subject: SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Could you drop them off at a baby safe haven location?
WTF?
This was literally a question by ACB today. When all 50 states have safe haven laws and adoption exists, why does abortion need to be a thing? (paraphrasing)
They really asked that? They've never heard of fathers raping their daughters, 10 year olds getting pregnant, or women whose baby has died in the womb?
Wow.
Anonymous
12/02/2021 06:24
Subject: SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Justice Sandra Day O'Connor:
"Our obligation is to define liberty of all, not to mandate our own moral code."
Justice Anthony Kennedy:
"Our cases recognize the right of the individual, married or single, to be free from unwarranted governmental intrusion into matters so fundamentally affecting a person as the decision whether to bear or beget a child."
The GOP has swung way to the right.
Kennedy is to blame for the current SCOTUS makeup..
I wonder what Trump said to him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there was something up with Kennedy’s son at the bank who was doing loans.
Ding ding ding we have a winner.
+1
Anonymous
12/02/2021 06:20
Subject: SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Justice Sandra Day O'Connor:
"Our obligation is to define liberty of all, not to mandate our own moral code."
Justice Anthony Kennedy:
"Our cases recognize the right of the individual, married or single, to be free from unwarranted governmental intrusion into matters so fundamentally affecting a person as the decision whether to bear or beget a child."
The GOP has swung way to the right.
Kennedy is to blame for the current SCOTUS makeup..
I wonder what Trump said to him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there was something up with Kennedy’s son at the bank who was doing loans.
Ding ding ding we have a winner.
Anonymous
12/02/2021 05:42
Subject: SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Justice Sandra Day O'Connor:
"Our obligation is to define liberty of all, not to mandate our own moral code."
Justice Anthony Kennedy:
"Our cases recognize the right of the individual, married or single, to be free from unwarranted governmental intrusion into matters so fundamentally affecting a person as the decision whether to bear or beget a child."
The GOP has swung way to the right.
Kennedy is to blame for the current SCOTUS makeup..
I wonder what Trump said to him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there was something up with Kennedy’s son at the bank who was doing loans.