Anonymous wrote:Wisconsin is an excellent school with a huge diversity problem. The school has practically no black students. In this day and age, surrounding yourself with nothing but other white people for your education is not a good thing. It does not prepare you for the real world. You can call me a "moron" all you want, but it's true.

Anonymous wrote:New twist on Wisconsin: If you were a Minnesota resident and qualified for in-state tuition at Wisconsin through reciprocity, but could also qualify for resident tuition at University of Manitoba through reciprocity, which would you choose? Assume student is not interested in attending any state schools in Minnesota.

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Anonymous wrote:No school has a better combination of party scene, academics and big time athletics than Wisconsin.

UCLA? Florida? Georgia? UNC? Duke?

UCLA - better academics, athletics are generally on par, not as big a party school
Florida - bigger football but not academics or party
GA - Nope
UNC - better academics, but no to the other two
Duke is a small private school with a big hoops program and thats about it.

Wisconsin is a nice school, but please try to be serious.

UCLA's academics are stronger than Wisconsin's and the "party deficit" you see exists because there's so much more to do in LA than drink! Clever spin to try to elevate keg stands above skiing in the morning, surfing in the afternoon, and world class entertainment at night, but just no.

Florida no longer trails Wisconsin in academics and its sports programs are stronger generally, not just in football. And those kids also do nearly as many keg stands as the Badgers do.

Georgia's athletics are clearly stronger (#1 football team in the country; Wisconsin will be lucky to finish the season above .500) and academics are pretty much on par. Athens is a great college town; individual preference whether it's better than Madison.

UNC's sports are on par with Wisconsin's. (I'm actually not sure its academics are better.)

Duke's academics are clearly superior and basketball is legendary.

And you ducked Texas, which basically is Madison with better weather and racial diversity.

So UCLA students ski in the morning and surf in the afternoon? Wow! And they keep up with their “strong” academics. And they navigate all of that horrendous traffic driving from the mountains to the beach to class to boot! I am impressed! Go UCLA students!

Actually as a UCLA grad I'm guilty of surfing in the morning and night skiing at Mountain High in the evening, it's actually pretty cool to do both. With that being said UCLA is a typical state school that offers opportunities to students to excel or not, like most colleges it is up to the students to succeed. My niece is thriving at UCLA and my child is at UVA, funny thing is they don't talk about rankings and such, just their college experiences.

Students never focus on rankings, it’s always the psychotic parents and my experience has been that the ones who are most obsessed are the ones who went to some no name college and are determined that their children do “better”

Agree, pretty strange dialogue here. Why do a lot of these posters constantly put down good schools? A friend suggested this site and I am now questioning their judgement...this place is pure negativity.

Go to College Confidential……it’s actually quite helpful and supportive. This site is trafficked by high strung nut jobs.

Truth.

Gone, this forum is ridiculous....zero common sense and perspective on reality.

And, oddly, zero consideration for what the students themselves want.

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Anonymous wrote:No school has a better combination of party scene, academics and big time athletics than Wisconsin.

UCLA? Florida? Georgia? UNC? Duke?

UCLA - better academics, athletics are generally on par, not as big a party school
Florida - bigger football but not academics or party
GA - Nope
UNC - better academics, but no to the other two
Duke is a small private school with a big hoops program and thats about it.

Wisconsin is a nice school, but please try to be serious.

UCLA's academics are stronger than Wisconsin's and the "party deficit" you see exists because there's so much more to do in LA than drink! Clever spin to try to elevate keg stands above skiing in the morning, surfing in the afternoon, and world class entertainment at night, but just no.

Florida no longer trails Wisconsin in academics and its sports programs are stronger generally, not just in football. And those kids also do nearly as many keg stands as the Badgers do.

Georgia's athletics are clearly stronger (#1 football team in the country; Wisconsin will be lucky to finish the season above .500) and academics are pretty much on par. Athens is a great college town; individual preference whether it's better than Madison.

UNC's sports are on par with Wisconsin's. (I'm actually not sure its academics are better.)

Duke's academics are clearly superior and basketball is legendary.

And you ducked Texas, which basically is Madison with better weather and racial diversity.

So UCLA students ski in the morning and surf in the afternoon? Wow! And they keep up with their “strong” academics. And they navigate all of that horrendous traffic driving from the mountains to the beach to class to boot! I am impressed! Go UCLA students!

Actually as a UCLA grad I'm guilty of surfing in the morning and night skiing at Mountain High in the evening, it's actually pretty cool to do both. With that being said UCLA is a typical state school that offers opportunities to students to excel or not, like most colleges it is up to the students to succeed. My niece is thriving at UCLA and my child is at UVA, funny thing is they don't talk about rankings and such, just their college experiences.

Students never focus on rankings, it’s always the psychotic parents and my experience has been that the ones who are most obsessed are the ones who went to some no name college and are determined that their children do “better”

Agree, pretty strange dialogue here. Why do a lot of these posters constantly put down good schools? A friend suggested this site and I am now questioning their judgement...this place is pure negativity.

Go to College Confidential……it’s actually quite helpful and supportive. This site is trafficked by high strung nut jobs.

Truth.

Gone, this forum is ridiculous....zero common sense and perspective on reality.

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Anonymous wrote:No school has a better combination of party scene, academics and big time athletics than Wisconsin.

UCLA? Florida? Georgia? UNC? Duke?

UCLA - better academics, athletics are generally on par, not as big a party school
Florida - bigger football but not academics or party
GA - Nope
UNC - better academics, but no to the other two
Duke is a small private school with a big hoops program and thats about it.

Wisconsin is a nice school, but please try to be serious.

UCLA's academics are stronger than Wisconsin's and the "party deficit" you see exists because there's so much more to do in LA than drink! Clever spin to try to elevate keg stands above skiing in the morning, surfing in the afternoon, and world class entertainment at night, but just no.

Florida no longer trails Wisconsin in academics and its sports programs are stronger generally, not just in football. And those kids also do nearly as many keg stands as the Badgers do.

Georgia's athletics are clearly stronger (#1 football team in the country; Wisconsin will be lucky to finish the season above .500) and academics are pretty much on par. Athens is a great college town; individual preference whether it's better than Madison.

UNC's sports are on par with Wisconsin's. (I'm actually not sure its academics are better.)

Duke's academics are clearly superior and basketball is legendary.

And you ducked Texas, which basically is Madison with better weather and racial diversity.

So UCLA students ski in the morning and surf in the afternoon? Wow! And they keep up with their “strong” academics. And they navigate all of that horrendous traffic driving from the mountains to the beach to class to boot! I am impressed! Go UCLA students!

Actually as a UCLA grad I'm guilty of surfing in the morning and night skiing at Mountain High in the evening, it's actually pretty cool to do both. With that being said UCLA is a typical state school that offers opportunities to students to excel or not, like most colleges it is up to the students to succeed. My niece is thriving at UCLA and my child is at UVA, funny thing is they don't talk about rankings and such, just their college experiences.

Students never focus on rankings, it’s always the psychotic parents and my experience has been that the ones who are most obsessed are the ones who went to some no name college and are determined that their children do “better”

Agree, pretty strange dialogue here. Why do a lot of these posters constantly put down good schools? A friend suggested this site and I am now questioning their judgement...this place is pure negativity.

Go to College Confidential……it’s actually quite helpful and supportive. This site is trafficked by high strung nut jobs.

Truth.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a limited number of large schools that have top academics, top athletics, a great campus and lots of school spirit.

Wisconsin is among them. That is not saying that Wisconsin's academics are better than Michigan, UCLA, Cal or Texas. It is also not saying that any of those other schools have better campuses etc. It is a mix, and if someone is looking for a school that checks those boxes, then Wisconsin is a great choice to have in that mix.

Period.

That is not "boosting" Wisconsin, nor is it denigrating any other school. It is all subjective to a point.

There are actually a lot of large schools that have great academics and athletics, a nice campus, and school spirit. You and a few other posters apply some arbitrary cut-off to exclude other schools you consider inferior, and then walk back your claim of superiority by suggesting everyone can be expected to engage in puffery about their own school.

I won't judge the school simply because some of the alumni are obnoxious, but it's not a great look.

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Anonymous wrote:No school has a better combination of party scene, academics and big time athletics than Wisconsin.

UCLA? Florida? Georgia? UNC? Duke?

UCLA - better academics, athletics are generally on par, not as big a party school
Florida - bigger football but not academics or party
GA - Nope
UNC - better academics, but no to the other two
Duke is a small private school with a big hoops program and thats about it.

Wisconsin is a nice school, but please try to be serious.

UCLA's academics are stronger than Wisconsin's and the "party deficit" you see exists because there's so much more to do in LA than drink! Clever spin to try to elevate keg stands above skiing in the morning, surfing in the afternoon, and world class entertainment at night, but just no.

Florida no longer trails Wisconsin in academics and its sports programs are stronger generally, not just in football. And those kids also do nearly as many keg stands as the Badgers do.

Georgia's athletics are clearly stronger (#1 football team in the country; Wisconsin will be lucky to finish the season above .500) and academics are pretty much on par. Athens is a great college town; individual preference whether it's better than Madison.

UNC's sports are on par with Wisconsin's. (I'm actually not sure its academics are better.)

Duke's academics are clearly superior and basketball is legendary.

And you ducked Texas, which basically is Madison with better weather and racial diversity.

So UCLA students ski in the morning and surf in the afternoon? Wow! And they keep up with their “strong” academics. And they navigate all of that horrendous traffic driving from the mountains to the beach to class to boot! I am impressed! Go UCLA students!

Actually as a UCLA grad I'm guilty of surfing in the morning and night skiing at Mountain High in the evening, it's actually pretty cool to do both. With that being said UCLA is a typical state school that offers opportunities to students to excel or not, like most colleges it is up to the students to succeed. My niece is thriving at UCLA and my child is at UVA, funny thing is they don't talk about rankings and such, just their college experiences.

Students never focus on rankings, it’s always the psychotic parents and my experience has been that the ones who are most obsessed are the ones who went to some no name college and are determined that their children do “better”

Agree, pretty strange dialogue here. Why do a lot of these posters constantly put down good schools? A friend suggested this site and I am now questioning their judgement...this place is pure negativity.

Go to College Confidential……it’s actually quite helpful and supportive. This site is trafficked by high strung nut jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:No school has a better combination of party scene, academics and big time athletics than Wisconsin.

UCLA? Florida? Georgia? UNC? Duke?

UCLA - better academics, athletics are generally on par, not as big a party school
Florida - bigger football but not academics or party
GA - Nope
UNC - better academics, but no to the other two
Duke is a small private school with a big hoops program and thats about it.

Wisconsin is a nice school, but please try to be serious.

UCLA's academics are stronger than Wisconsin's and the "party deficit" you see exists because there's so much more to do in LA than drink! Clever spin to try to elevate keg stands above skiing in the morning, surfing in the afternoon, and world class entertainment at night, but just no.

Florida no longer trails Wisconsin in academics and its sports programs are stronger generally, not just in football. And those kids also do nearly as many keg stands as the Badgers do.

Georgia's athletics are clearly stronger (#1 football team in the country; Wisconsin will be lucky to finish the season above .500) and academics are pretty much on par. Athens is a great college town; individual preference whether it's better than Madison.

UNC's sports are on par with Wisconsin's. (I'm actually not sure its academics are better.)

Duke's academics are clearly superior and basketball is legendary.

And you ducked Texas, which basically is Madison with better weather and racial diversity.

So UCLA students ski in the morning and surf in the afternoon? Wow! And they keep up with their “strong” academics. And they navigate all of that horrendous traffic driving from the mountains to the beach to class to boot! I am impressed! Go UCLA students!

Actually as a UCLA grad I'm guilty of surfing in the morning and night skiing at Mountain High in the evening, it's actually pretty cool to do both. With that being said UCLA is a typical state school that offers opportunities to students to excel or not, like most colleges it is up to the students to succeed. My niece is thriving at UCLA and my child is at UVA, funny thing is they don't talk about rankings and such, just their college experiences.

Students never focus on rankings, it’s always the psychotic parents and my experience has been that the ones who are most obsessed are the ones who went to some no name college and are determined that their children do “better”

Agree, pretty strange dialogue here. Why do a lot of these posters constantly put down good schools? A friend suggested this site and I am now questioning their judgement...this place is pure negativity.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a limited number of large schools that have top academics, top athletics, a great campus and lots of school spirit.

Wisconsin is among them. That is not saying that Wisconsin's academics are better than Michigan, UCLA, Cal or Texas. It is also not saying that any of those other schools have better campuses etc. It is a mix, and if someone is looking for a school that checks those boxes, then Wisconsin is a great choice to have in that mix.

Period.

That is not "boosting" Wisconsin, nor is it denigrating any other school. It is all subjective to a point.

I mostly agree, but with the perspective that whether the academics are "top" at a large public R1 university depends much more on the student than on the school. An engaged student at Clemson or Kansas will have a much more worthwhile undergraduate experience (from an academic perspective) than one floating along at Michigan or Wisconsin. The academic ceiling might be a bit higher at the "top" schools, but (a) not much (and not uniformly across disciplines) and (b) the vast majority of students never approach the ceiling regardless.

The difference is the average student at a top public like Cal, Michigan, or UCLA are going to be surrounded by a much higher percentage of other top students. More so than Wisconsin and certainly more so than Kansas or Clemson.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a limited number of large schools that have top academics, top athletics, a great campus and lots of school spirit.

Wisconsin is among them. That is not saying that Wisconsin's academics are better than Michigan, UCLA, Cal or Texas. It is also not saying that any of those other schools have better campuses etc. It is a mix, and if someone is looking for a school that checks those boxes, then Wisconsin is a great choice to have in that mix.

Period.

That is not "boosting" Wisconsin, nor is it denigrating any other school. It is all subjective to a point.

I mostly agree, but with the perspective that whether the academics are "top" at a large public R1 university depends much more on the student than on the school. An engaged student at Clemson or Kansas will have a much more worthwhile undergraduate experience (from an academic perspective) than one floating along at Michigan or Wisconsin. The academic ceiling might be a bit higher at the "top" schools, but (a) not much (and not uniformly across disciplines) and (b) the vast majority of students never approach the ceiling regardless.

The difference is the average student at a top public like Cal, Michigan, or UCLA are going to be surrounded by a much higher percentage of other top students. More so than Wisconsin and certainly more so than Kansas or Clemson.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of applicants who simply prefer UW to UM. Nothing wrong with that. There are also plenty who apply to both. Since UM does yield protect, there are many who are high stats who don't get in to UM but do to UW and then matriculate.

The fact is, if you are from the coasts and attended a small private high school, and want that "big school" experience with strong academics, there are not many better options that have the combination of both.

Plenty of accepted students at Wiscy go elsewhere to college. It has a paltry 32% percent yield rate. Michigan’s yield rate, without using ED, is 46%.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a limited number of large schools that have top academics, top athletics, a great campus and lots of school spirit.

Wisconsin is among them. That is not saying that Wisconsin's academics are better than Michigan, UCLA, Cal or Texas. It is also not saying that any of those other schools have better campuses etc. It is a mix, and if someone is looking for a school that checks those boxes, then Wisconsin is a great choice to have in that mix.

Period.

That is not "boosting" Wisconsin, nor is it denigrating any other school. It is all subjective to a point.

I mostly agree, but with the perspective that whether the academics are "top" at a large public R1 university depends much more on the student than on the school. An engaged student at Clemson or Kansas will have a much more worthwhile undergraduate experience (from an academic perspective) than one floating along at Michigan or Wisconsin. The academic ceiling might be a bit higher at the "top" schools, but (a) not much (and not uniformly across disciplines) and (b) the vast majority of students never approach the ceiling regardless.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a limited number of large schools that have top academics, top athletics, a great campus and lots of school spirit.

Wisconsin is among them. That is not saying that Wisconsin's academics are better than Michigan, UCLA, Cal or Texas. It is also not saying that any of those other schools have better campuses etc. It is a mix, and if someone is looking for a school that checks those boxes, then Wisconsin is a great choice to have in that mix.

Period.

That is not "boosting" Wisconsin, nor is it denigrating any other school. It is all subjective to a point.

There are actually a lot of large schools that have great academics and athletics, a nice campus, and school spirit. You and a few other posters apply some arbitrary cut-off to exclude other schools you consider inferior, and then walk back your claim of superiority by suggesting everyone can be expected to engage in puffery about their own school.

I won't judge the school simply because some of the alumni are obnoxious, but it's not a great look.