Anonymous
10/22/2021 09:53
Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, parents speak for kids, not teachers. As a parent of SN kids, I'm extremely offended by the idea that a teacher should speak for my kids. Teachers went on strike to protest returning to work to support my IEP kid in November 2020, including my kid's teacher who just watched my child fall through the cracks without even trying to offer even virtual support. I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the number of times I've sat across from WTU members who lied about my child's abilities to support reducing services.
All you "we love the teachers" parents who think the teachers are looking out for your kids above their own employment terms are just insane.
The plural of anecdote is not data. During the pandemic our school added another evaluation for our SN child because they thought there was an undiagnosed LD at play. I definitely was frustrated by the lack of in-person services, but holy hell, it was a pandemic. I don't expect a teacher to put their life on the line for my child. My SN child was one of the first to return in early spring after teachers were vaccinated.
And what strike are you talking about? None of your post makes sense. What WAS happening in November was a record-setting number of covid cases, surpassing the previous peak.
You sound like you have misplaced anger issues.
That PP has posted something similar on dozens of threads at this point.
DP. Many, many SN parents were very upset. There are many of us. PP who did not care is in the minority.
Anonymous
10/22/2021 09:31
Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS
Anonymous wrote:No, parents speak for kids, not teachers. As a parent of SN kids, I'm extremely offended by the idea that a teacher should speak for my kids. Teachers went on strike to protest returning to work to support my IEP kid in November 2020, including my kid's teacher who just watched my child fall through the cracks without even trying to offer even virtual support. I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the number of times I've sat across from WTU members who lied about my child's abilities to support reducing services.
All you "we love the teachers" parents who think the teachers are looking out for your kids above their own employment terms are just insane.
The plural of anecdote is not data. During the pandemic our school added another evaluation for our SN child because they thought there was an undiagnosed LD at play. I definitely was frustrated by the lack of in-person services, but holy hell, it was a pandemic. I don't expect a teacher to put their life on the line for my child. My SN child was one of the first to return in early spring after teachers were vaccinated.
And what strike are you talking about? None of your post makes sense. What WAS happening in November was a record-setting number of covid cases, surpassing the previous peak.
You sound like you have misplaced anger issues.
That PP has posted something similar on dozens of threads at this point.
Anonymous
10/22/2021 09:29
Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS
No, parents speak for kids, not teachers. As a parent of SN kids, I'm extremely offended by the idea that a teacher should speak for my kids. Teachers went on strike to protest returning to work to support my IEP kid in November 2020, including my kid's teacher who just watched my child fall through the cracks without even trying to offer even virtual support. I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the number of times I've sat across from WTU members who lied about my child's abilities to support reducing services.
All you "we love the teachers" parents who think the teachers are looking out for your kids above their own employment terms are just insane.
The plural of anecdote is not data. During the pandemic our school added another evaluation for our SN child because they thought there was an undiagnosed LD at play. I definitely was frustrated by the lack of in-person services, but holy hell, it was a pandemic. I don't expect a teacher to put their life on the line for my child. My SN child was one of the first to return in early spring after teachers were vaccinated.
And what strike are you talking about? None of your post makes sense. What WAS happening in November was a record-setting number of covid cases, surpassing the previous peak.
You sound like you have misplaced anger issues.
Anonymous
10/22/2021 08:14
Subject: testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There will be a DC Council hearing on October 26 to discuss ending mayoral control of DCPS. Please sign up to testify against ending Mayoral control. There is no rational for ending Mayoral control other than giving more power to outside organizations over DCPS. Nobody has made the case for why the current management of DCPS needs to be change. Indeed - every single other public work is administered directly by the Mayor.
Mayoral control is DIRECTLY related to school reopening after covid. Without mayoral control, I do not believe DCPS would have opened at all last year, similar to SFUSD.
More information:https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/chicago-schools-lori-lightfoot-mayoral-control/2021/02/18/ff452110-7158-11eb-93be-c10813e358a2_story.html
This is old research, but it explains the issue of mayoral control of schools, and why it is beneficial:
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/education-k-12/news/2013/03/22/57723/top-5-things-to-know-about-mayoral-control-of-schools/
Washington Post on the current efforts in DC: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/undermining-mayoral-control-of-dc-schools-wont-make-things-better-for-students/2021/03/07/0fcb87d4-7bbf-11eb-b3d1-9e5aa3d5220c_story.html
You can sign up to submit written or oral testimony here: Sign up here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdUODdcp7a-VInaR5aSlR4_wEqL46YZ4bj65-LjKWTXMowpZQ/viewform?fbzx=-6710434939403137657
First of all - it's "RATIONALE" not "rational"
secondly -- Mayoral control has been an unmitigated failure. Public schools have become politically driven rather than focused on better student outcomes across the board. Thanks for the heads up so I can testify to end Mayoral control.
You'll need to go into a bit more detail about A) what exactly you mean by "politically driven" and B) why ending mayoral control -- and handing over control to an elected school board -- would make it less politically driven? Or do you just mean something like making the Chancellor only dismissable for cause?
I don't "need" to do anything
Educators should drive decision making on policy. Educators should run schools and school boards are far more accountable to citizens than a mayoral appointees. Political appointees cut out meaningful and necessary voices in the process with little real accountability to school communities. I guess there's accountability if you game the boundary system for your own kid, but there's no accountability for failing to deliver better outcomes for students, however desperate the effort to quantify any measurable "success" through questionable metrics (spoiler alert -- rich kids test better than poor kids).
no no nonono no no no. educators are not experts in education policy. sorry, no. i say this as a person who is a former teacher with a degree in education who now works with experts in ed policy and ed research.
Yeah, it's an odd article of faith among teachers -- most of whom have less experience with public policy or management than your average adult -- that "educators" are the only people qualified to make any decisions about schools, from budgeting to facilities planning to HR.
Of course, because they spend their lives among children, teachers are some of the least qualified folks to make these decisions. I'd way rather have decisions about policy made by someone who studied and works in the field of POLICY than someone who spends their day teaching multiplication tables. I'd rather have decisions about accounting and finance made by an accountant than someone who teaches about primary colors all day. Call me crazy.
It's also a conflict of interest for teachers to serve on a board to make these decisions that affect their terms of employment.
Sure, it’s a ‘conflict’ to have the people who do the majority of the work to have the majority of the power.
And the pp above, I hope you homeschool. Sounds like you have a lot of disdain towards teachers. Primary colors,yea that’s all they teach.
I would be OK with one teacher rep. Not more.
There should be a special education and general education rep.
No, parents speak for kids, not teachers. As a parent of SN kids, I'm extremely offended by the idea that a teacher should speak for my kids. Teachers went on strike to protest returning to work to support my IEP kid in November 2020, including my kid's teacher who just watched my child fall through the cracks without even trying to offer even virtual support. I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the number of times I've sat across from WTU members who lied about my child's abilities to support reducing services.
All you "we love the teachers" parents who think the teachers are looking out for your kids above their own employment terms are just insane.
Anonymous
10/21/2021 20:33
Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS
Anonymous wrote:taking a cue from Yglesias, I was looking at articles regarding SF (with its school board control) and reopening.
E.g.,
SF Legislators Call Bulls**t on School District's Scheme to Get $12 Million In State Funding for Reopening
https://sfist.com/2021/05/24/sf-legislators-call-bulls-t-on-school-districts-scheme-to-get-12-million-in-state-funding-for-reopening/
S.F. schools seek reopening consultant a year after the board shot down the idea
https://www.sfchronicle.com/education/article/S-F-schools-seek-reopening-consultant-a-year-16136661.php
Discord in San Francisco schools, on race and reopening, looms large
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/05/22/san-francisco-school-board-race-reopening/
SF was a complete disaster.
Anonymous
10/21/2021 12:56
Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS
taking a cue from Yglesias, I was looking at articles regarding SF (with its school board control) and reopening.
E.g.,
SF Legislators Call Bulls**t on School District's Scheme to Get $12 Million In State Funding for Reopening
https://sfist.com/2021/05/24/sf-legislators-call-bulls-t-on-school-districts-scheme-to-get-12-million-in-state-funding-for-reopening/
S.F. schools seek reopening consultant a year after the board shot down the idea
https://www.sfchronicle.com/education/article/S-F-schools-seek-reopening-consultant-a-year-16136661.php
Discord in San Francisco schools, on race and reopening, looms large
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/05/22/san-francisco-school-board-race-reopening/
E.g.,
SF Legislators Call Bulls**t on School District's Scheme to Get $12 Million In State Funding for Reopening
https://sfist.com/2021/05/24/sf-legislators-call-bulls-t-on-school-districts-scheme-to-get-12-million-in-state-funding-for-reopening/
S.F. schools seek reopening consultant a year after the board shot down the idea
https://www.sfchronicle.com/education/article/S-F-schools-seek-reopening-consultant-a-year-16136661.php
Discord in San Francisco schools, on race and reopening, looms large
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/05/22/san-francisco-school-board-race-reopening/
Anonymous
10/20/2021 16:40
Subject: testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS
I think a lot of people here, angry and disagreeable as most of us are, probably agree on more than you'd think.
Mostly, I think we think accountability under a Mayor who runs unopposed and doesn't pay close attention to schools could be better. But at least the lines of authority and governance are clear.
Mostly, we worry that a stronger SBOE in charge is a governance problem waiting to happen, and structurally, it's set up to fight and deadlock. But at least some accountability could be possible.
What I wonder now is what are the lessons of having Grosso, at least at one point mildly activist, and then Mendelson, generally not an activist, in a position to influence the Mayor's inaction where they really got upset?
It seems like we got maybe a marginal amount of accountability more, but it seems like there's a significant point further the Council would have to be empowered to go to get officials to really jump for them. So they mostly shrug them off, I think, knowing if they can blather through a hearing or two a year they can do whatever they want.
For me, at the parent level, it's mostly the frustration of seeing issues that as an amateur I can see coming a mile away and the bureaucracy does not take any proactive steps. Not the perfect example necessarily, but like, take subs. It's clear that COVID was gonna mean we're gonna have to be ready with way more substitute teachers. People told DCPS that! And they didn't do it until October, like 18 months after COVID sent everybody home.
Not the perfect example, just an example of a bureaucracy moving slower than your average woman on the street, which is frustrating. What makes a bureaucracy responsive? That's your secret sauce. And I haven't seen it yet.
Mostly, I think we think accountability under a Mayor who runs unopposed and doesn't pay close attention to schools could be better. But at least the lines of authority and governance are clear.
Mostly, we worry that a stronger SBOE in charge is a governance problem waiting to happen, and structurally, it's set up to fight and deadlock. But at least some accountability could be possible.
What I wonder now is what are the lessons of having Grosso, at least at one point mildly activist, and then Mendelson, generally not an activist, in a position to influence the Mayor's inaction where they really got upset?
It seems like we got maybe a marginal amount of accountability more, but it seems like there's a significant point further the Council would have to be empowered to go to get officials to really jump for them. So they mostly shrug them off, I think, knowing if they can blather through a hearing or two a year they can do whatever they want.
For me, at the parent level, it's mostly the frustration of seeing issues that as an amateur I can see coming a mile away and the bureaucracy does not take any proactive steps. Not the perfect example necessarily, but like, take subs. It's clear that COVID was gonna mean we're gonna have to be ready with way more substitute teachers. People told DCPS that! And they didn't do it until October, like 18 months after COVID sent everybody home.
Not the perfect example, just an example of a bureaucracy moving slower than your average woman on the street, which is frustrating. What makes a bureaucracy responsive? That's your secret sauce. And I haven't seen it yet.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 15:17
Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jeff directed this here, so I'll stick it here instead:
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1450150223771275264
I can't figure out how to link a screenshot, but Yglesias says ending mayoral control is a bad idea, and provides reasons.
I think this was to be expected, given the Weeds episode about school reopenings.
Except the link I posted *just above* your post is the link of a WAMU reporter correcting Matty. He’s wrong on the factual case of what’s being proposed in DC.
https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1450159613131857920?s=20
he’s not wrong. read the bills. removing OSSE from mayoral control and putting it under the SBOE is removing mayoral control. and of course - these bills are just prelude to more extreme bills. people with any interest in a functioning DCPS should testify against them.
Neither bill would take away the power of the mayor to appoint the chancellor, so yeah...it's not ending mayoral control. The rest of Yglesia's thread is just as misinformed.
From Cheh's bill:
"In every state, school districts answer to state-level education authorities, which are empowered to audit all school data and demand corrective action where an audit identifies areas of concern. In no other state does the state-level oversight body report to the head of a school system it oversees. This conflict of interest compromises the work of our Superintendent, risking the public’s trust in the integrity of our school data."
The superintendent would be appointed by the mayor -- and OSSE would have more independence, and by removing conflict of interest, remove the disincentive to audit, thereby functioning more like other states. It seems like the DCUM naysayers would like that accountability of our schools, but then where would you all be if you don't have a union boogeyman to worry about?
Stop making this out to be something it's not at all.
lol no. you leave out the part where OSSE has control over many key substantive issues like assessments, federal grants, and IDEA. It’s not simply an audit function - which yes, should have independence and *already does.*
and there are two bills.
the first bill B24-80 removes mayoral control of OSSE and puts it under the school board. The school board would appoint the superintendent as well, removing the mayor AND the current requirement of Council consent. It allows DCPS employees to be elected to the board (currently all DC employees prohibited).
the second bill B24-101 removes OSSE from the mayor and makes it an independent agency. The mayor continues to appoint the superintendent but may only remove them for cause (which can be hard to do - requires wrongdoing or insubordination and not just disagreement.) It adds some additional data provisions that are extremely broad and vague and hard to implement, and IMO completely contrary to the goal of data governance and data quality.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 14:46
Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jeff directed this here, so I'll stick it here instead:
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1450150223771275264
I can't figure out how to link a screenshot, but Yglesias says ending mayoral control is a bad idea, and provides reasons.
I think this was to be expected, given the Weeds episode about school reopenings.
Except the link I posted *just above* your post is the link of a WAMU reporter correcting Matty. He’s wrong on the factual case of what’s being proposed in DC.
https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1450159613131857920?s=20
he’s not wrong. read the bills. removing OSSE from mayoral control and putting it under the SBOE is removing mayoral control. and of course - these bills are just prelude to more extreme bills. people with any interest in a functioning DCPS should testify against them.
Neither bill would take away the power of the mayor to appoint the chancellor, so yeah...it's not ending mayoral control. The rest of Yglesia's thread is just as misinformed.
From Cheh's bill:
"In every state, school districts answer to state-level education authorities, which are empowered to audit all school data and demand corrective action where an audit identifies areas of concern. In no other state does the state-level oversight body report to the head of a school system it oversees. This conflict of interest compromises the work of our Superintendent, risking the public’s trust in the integrity of our school data."
The superintendent would be appointed by the mayor -- and OSSE would have more independence, and by removing conflict of interest, remove the disincentive to audit, thereby functioning more like other states. It seems like the DCUM naysayers would like that accountability of our schools, but then where would you all be if you don't have a union boogeyman to worry about?
Stop making this out to be something it's not at all.
Well, it does lessen mayoral control, so that part is accurate. It is a "shift away from mayoral control" as Yglesias states. And the other bill DOES put OSSE under the control of SBOE, so that is absolutely removing a big portion of mayoral control.
At any rate, can you answer any of the above questions about Cheh's bill?:
1) who appoints the head of OSSE under the bill?
2) how would this bill change school functioning?
3) which agency would OSSE be under, according to the bill?
In general, what issues is the bill meant to correct, and will it do that? Can you provide an example?
You can try and smear people asking genuine questions all you want, but it doesn't make your cause look good.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 14:38
Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jeff directed this here, so I'll stick it here instead:
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1450150223771275264
I can't figure out how to link a screenshot, but Yglesias says ending mayoral control is a bad idea, and provides reasons.
I think this was to be expected, given the Weeds episode about school reopenings.
Except the link I posted *just above* your post is the link of a WAMU reporter correcting Matty. He’s wrong on the factual case of what’s being proposed in DC.
https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1450159613131857920?s=20
he’s not wrong. read the bills. removing OSSE from mayoral control and putting it under the SBOE is removing mayoral control. and of course - these bills are just prelude to more extreme bills. people with any interest in a functioning DCPS should testify against them.
Neither bill would take away the power of the mayor to appoint the chancellor, so yeah...it's not ending mayoral control. The rest of Yglesia's thread is just as misinformed.
From Cheh's bill:
"In every state, school districts answer to state-level education authorities, which are empowered to audit all school data and demand corrective action where an audit identifies areas of concern. In no other state does the state-level oversight body report to the head of a school system it oversees. This conflict of interest compromises the work of our Superintendent, risking the public’s trust in the integrity of our school data."
The superintendent would be appointed by the mayor -- and OSSE would have more independence, and by removing conflict of interest, remove the disincentive to audit, thereby functioning more like other states. It seems like the DCUM naysayers would like that accountability of our schools, but then where would you all be if you don't have a union boogeyman to worry about?
Stop making this out to be something it's not at all.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 13:51
Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS
Should I be surprised that the people who are supporting these bills can't really explain the bills?
Anonymous
10/20/2021 13:49
Subject: testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS
Anonymous wrote:No more mayoral control, only thing it has done is lined the pockets of executives.
And there was no corruption before mayoral control? Please.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 13:16
Subject: testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There will be a DC Council hearing on October 26 to discuss ending mayoral control of DCPS. Please sign up to testify against ending Mayoral control. There is no rational for ending Mayoral control other than giving more power to outside organizations over DCPS. Nobody has made the case for why the current management of DCPS needs to be change. Indeed - every single other public work is administered directly by the Mayor.
Mayoral control is DIRECTLY related to school reopening after covid. Without mayoral control, I do not believe DCPS would have opened at all last year, similar to SFUSD.
More information:https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/chicago-schools-lori-lightfoot-mayoral-control/2021/02/18/ff452110-7158-11eb-93be-c10813e358a2_story.html
This is old research, but it explains the issue of mayoral control of schools, and why it is beneficial:
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/education-k-12/news/2013/03/22/57723/top-5-things-to-know-about-mayoral-control-of-schools/
Washington Post on the current efforts in DC: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/undermining-mayoral-control-of-dc-schools-wont-make-things-better-for-students/2021/03/07/0fcb87d4-7bbf-11eb-b3d1-9e5aa3d5220c_story.html
You can sign up to submit written or oral testimony here: Sign up here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdUODdcp7a-VInaR5aSlR4_wEqL46YZ4bj65-LjKWTXMowpZQ/viewform?fbzx=-6710434939403137657
First of all - it's "RATIONALE" not "rational"
secondly -- Mayoral control has been an unmitigated failure. Public schools have become politically driven rather than focused on better student outcomes across the board. Thanks for the heads up so I can testify to end Mayoral control.
You'll need to go into a bit more detail about A) what exactly you mean by "politically driven" and B) why ending mayoral control -- and handing over control to an elected school board -- would make it less politically driven? Or do you just mean something like making the Chancellor only dismissable for cause?
I don't "need" to do anything
Educators should drive decision making on policy. Educators should run schools and school boards are far more accountable to citizens than a mayoral appointees. Political appointees cut out meaningful and necessary voices in the process with little real accountability to school communities. I guess there's accountability if you game the boundary system for your own kid, but there's no accountability for failing to deliver better outcomes for students, however desperate the effort to quantify any measurable "success" through questionable metrics (spoiler alert -- rich kids test better than poor kids).
no no nonono no no no. educators are not experts in education policy. sorry, no. i say this as a person who is a former teacher with a degree in education who now works with experts in ed policy and ed research.
Yeah, it's an odd article of faith among teachers -- most of whom have less experience with public policy or management than your average adult -- that "educators" are the only people qualified to make any decisions about schools, from budgeting to facilities planning to HR.
Of course, because they spend their lives among children, teachers are some of the least qualified folks to make these decisions. I'd way rather have decisions about policy made by someone who studied and works in the field of POLICY than someone who spends their day teaching multiplication tables. I'd rather have decisions about accounting and finance made by an accountant than someone who teaches about primary colors all day. Call me crazy.
It's also a conflict of interest for teachers to serve on a board to make these decisions that affect their terms of employment.
Sure, it’s a ‘conflict’ to have the people who do the majority of the work to have the majority of the power.
And the pp above, I hope you homeschool. Sounds like you have a lot of disdain towards teachers. Primary colors,yea that’s all they teach.
I would be OK with one teacher rep. Not more.
There should be a special education and general education rep.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 13:15
Subject: testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS
No more mayoral control, only thing it has done is lined the pockets of executives.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 13:14
Subject: testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There will be a DC Council hearing on October 26 to discuss ending mayoral control of DCPS. Please sign up to testify against ending Mayoral control. There is no rational for ending Mayoral control other than giving more power to outside organizations over DCPS. Nobody has made the case for why the current management of DCPS needs to be change. Indeed - every single other public work is administered directly by the Mayor.
Mayoral control is DIRECTLY related to school reopening after covid. Without mayoral control, I do not believe DCPS would have opened at all last year, similar to SFUSD.
More information:https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/chicago-schools-lori-lightfoot-mayoral-control/2021/02/18/ff452110-7158-11eb-93be-c10813e358a2_story.html
This is old research, but it explains the issue of mayoral control of schools, and why it is beneficial:
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/education-k-12/news/2013/03/22/57723/top-5-things-to-know-about-mayoral-control-of-schools/
Washington Post on the current efforts in DC: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/undermining-mayoral-control-of-dc-schools-wont-make-things-better-for-students/2021/03/07/0fcb87d4-7bbf-11eb-b3d1-9e5aa3d5220c_story.html
You can sign up to submit written or oral testimony here: Sign up here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdUODdcp7a-VInaR5aSlR4_wEqL46YZ4bj65-LjKWTXMowpZQ/viewform?fbzx=-6710434939403137657
First of all - it's "RATIONALE" not "rational"
secondly -- Mayoral control has been an unmitigated failure. Public schools have become politically driven rather than focused on better student outcomes across the board. Thanks for the heads up so I can testify to end Mayoral control.
You'll need to go into a bit more detail about A) what exactly you mean by "politically driven" and B) why ending mayoral control -- and handing over control to an elected school board -- would make it less politically driven? Or do you just mean something like making the Chancellor only dismissable for cause?
I don't "need" to do anything
Educators should drive decision making on policy. Educators should run schools and school boards are far more accountable to citizens than a mayoral appointees. Political appointees cut out meaningful and necessary voices in the process with little real accountability to school communities. I guess there's accountability if you game the boundary system for your own kid, but there's no accountability for failing to deliver better outcomes for students, however desperate the effort to quantify any measurable "success" through questionable metrics (spoiler alert -- rich kids test better than poor kids).
no no nonono no no no. educators are not experts in education policy. sorry, no. i say this as a person who is a former teacher with a degree in education who now works with experts in ed policy and ed research.
Yeah, it's an odd article of faith among teachers -- most of whom have less experience with public policy or management than your average adult -- that "educators" are the only people qualified to make any decisions about schools, from budgeting to facilities planning to HR.
Of course, because they spend their lives among children, teachers are some of the least qualified folks to make these decisions. I'd way rather have decisions about policy made by someone who studied and works in the field of POLICY than someone who spends their day teaching multiplication tables. I'd rather have decisions about accounting and finance made by an accountant than someone who teaches about primary colors all day. Call me crazy.
It's also a conflict of interest for teachers to serve on a board to make these decisions that affect their terms of employment.
Sure, it’s a ‘conflict’ to have the people who do the majority of the work to have the majority of the power.
And the pp above, I hope you homeschool. Sounds like you have a lot of disdain towards teachers. Primary colors,yea that’s all they teach.
I would be OK with one teacher rep. Not more.