Anonymous
10/07/2021 16:57
Subject: Re:McConnell is refusing to pay back debt that GOP raked during Trump presidency
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In two months, they can include it in the reconciliation bill.
+1 Sounds like they found a way out of the mess. R's won't have to vote on it and D's can get it passed through. Win-win.
Except the issue will come up again and again. A situation whereby the R's never have to vote to pay our credit card bill is not sustainable. It just keeps the delusion going and allows the R's to continue to abdicate basic responsibility.
Rs said they would vote for bipartisan spending not d only spending.
Except the bill to raise the debt ceiling that they've filibustered three times is to pay for 100% R only spending from when they were 100% in charge of Congress.
Anonymous
10/07/2021 16:53
Subject: McConnell is refusing to pay back debt that GOP raked during Trump presidency
Anonymous wrote:LOL - GOP refusing to budge on cloture. So Mitch scored a deal and now it is blowing up in his face. If the Dems are forced to break the filibuster on this, McConnell will own it.
Dems will have to include a number in their bill down the road. Rs have Manchin on not blowing up the filibuster. I am not sure of your analysis here.
Anonymous
10/07/2021 16:50
Subject: Re:McConnell is refusing to pay back debt that GOP raked during Trump presidency
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In two months, they can include it in the reconciliation bill.
+1 Sounds like they found a way out of the mess. R's won't have to vote on it and D's can get it passed through. Win-win.
Except the issue will come up again and again. A situation whereby the R's never have to vote to pay our credit card bill is not sustainable. It just keeps the delusion going and allows the R's to continue to abdicate basic responsibility.
Rs said they would vote for bipartisan spending not d only spending.
Anonymous
10/07/2021 15:17
Subject: McConnell is refusing to pay back debt that GOP raked during Trump presidency
Anonymous wrote:Does the two extra months time also coincide with the new shutdown deadline?
Yes, it does.
Anonymous
10/07/2021 15:16
Subject: Re:McConnell is refusing to pay back debt that GOP raked during Trump presidency
Anonymous wrote:In two months, they can include it in the reconciliation bill.
+1 Sounds like they found a way out of the mess. R's won't have to vote on it and D's can get it passed through. Win-win.
Except the issue will come up again and again. A situation whereby the R's never have to vote to pay our credit card bill is not sustainable. It just keeps the delusion going and allows the R's to continue to abdicate basic responsibility.
Anonymous
10/07/2021 15:15
Subject: McConnell is refusing to pay back debt that GOP raked during Trump presidency
LOL - GOP refusing to budge on cloture. So Mitch scored a deal and now it is blowing up in his face. If the Dems are forced to break the filibuster on this, McConnell will own it.
Anonymous
10/07/2021 15:14
Subject: McConnell is refusing to pay back debt that GOP raked during Trump presidency
Does the two extra months time also coincide with the new shutdown deadline?
Anonymous
10/07/2021 14:48
Subject: Re:McConnell is refusing to pay back debt that GOP raked during Trump presidency
In two months, they can include it in the reconciliation bill.
+1 Sounds like they found a way out of the mess. R's won't have to vote on it and D's can get it passed through. Win-win.
Anonymous
10/07/2021 14:24
Subject: McConnell is refusing to pay back debt that GOP raked during Trump presidency
In two months, they can include it in the reconciliation bill.
Anonymous
10/07/2021 14:23
Subject: McConnell is refusing to pay back debt that GOP raked during Trump presidency
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Or the fact they just walked into a trap.
I agree and don't think it was a good idea to take the offer. Two months is nothing
Maybe in two months Democrats will figure out how to remove the debt ceiling and voting rights from the filibuster.
Anonymous
10/07/2021 09:31
Subject: McConnell is refusing to pay back debt that GOP raked during Trump presidency
Anonymous wrote:
Or the fact they just walked into a trap.
I agree and don't think it was a good idea to take the offer. Two months is nothing
Anonymous
10/07/2021 09:30
Subject: McConnell is refusing to pay back debt that GOP raked during Trump presidency
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Or the fact they just walked into a trap.
Yep. He took away the Democratic talking point that they don't have time to put a debit ceiling increase in the reconciliation bill. But Democrats have to take it or they'll get full blame for a US default.
It was looking like they were going to exclude it from the filibuster. That's almost certainly why he "blinked".
Manchin was opposed to any changes to the filibuster.
But he would have done it if it came down to a default. That's why Mitch offered the tactical retreat.
Anonymous
10/07/2021 07:52
Subject: McConnell is refusing to pay back debt that GOP raked during Trump presidency
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Or the fact they just walked into a trap.
Yep. He took away the Democratic talking point that they don't have time to put a debit ceiling increase in the reconciliation bill. But Democrats have to take it or they'll get full blame for a US default.
It was looking like they were going to exclude it from the filibuster. That's almost certainly why he "blinked".
Manchin was opposed to any changes to the filibuster.
Anonymous
10/07/2021 07:45
Subject: McConnell is refusing to pay back debt that GOP raked during Trump presidency
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Or the fact they just walked into a trap.
Yep. He took away the Democratic talking point that they don't have time to put a debit ceiling increase in the reconciliation bill. But Democrats have to take it or they'll get full blame for a US default.
It was looking like they were going to exclude it from the filibuster. That's almost certainly why he "blinked".
Anonymous
10/07/2021 07:38
Subject: McConnell is refusing to pay back debt that GOP raked during Trump presidency
Anonymous wrote:
Or the fact they just walked into a trap.
Yep. He took away the Democratic talking point that they don't have time to put a debit ceiling increase in the reconciliation bill. But Democrats have to take it or they'll get full blame for a US default.