Anonymous
03/09/2015 22:14
Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
So your idea is to go back to every state having its own set of standards? Why would this be an improvement?
Because the states are closer to their own issues.
Their own issues of, for example, how and when to teach fractions? Why would this be different in Alabama than in North Dakota?
LOL! Yes, I'd LOVE to hear the anti-CCers try and give us all a sound explanation of why all 50 states need to be teaching fractions differently.
Still waiting for the answer on this one... And sorry, anything about "states rights" ideology isn't going to cut it as a coherent or rational answer, because that's a purely partisan and political answer, not one that actually has anything to do with sound educational policy or improving how we teach our kids.
Anonymous
03/09/2015 21:42
Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-bill-gates-pulled-off-the-swift-common-core-revolution/2014/06/07/a830e32e-ec34-11e3-9f5c-9075d5508f0a_story.html
Follow the money. Amazing.
Bill Gates is also funding research for a malaria vaccine. Clearly, the man is up to no good.
Anonymous
03/09/2015 21:39
Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:
The document below is also from the CC website. Apparently it is true that standards were adopted BEFORE they were reviewed. Look at the timeline. The vast majority of strates adopted it in 2010 (June 2010 to be precise). That was the very month they were released. Even CC cites 2011 as being a year when the states reviewed them (AFTER THEY HAD ALREADY ADOPTED THEM).
The assertion was that the states adopted the standards before the standards were developed. The final standards were released in June 2010. Only two states (Kentucky and West Virginia) adopted the standards before June 2010, and both did so after the standards were developed. At best, you could say that many states adopted the standards IN THE SAME MONTH that the final standards were released.
If you still want to support the assertion that the states that adopted the standards in June 2010 did so before the final standards were released, then please compile a list of the exact dates in June 2010 that the June 2010-states adopted the standards, and post the list here. Please also provide a link to the exact date in June 2010 that the final standards were released. I look forward to your information with interest.
Anonymous
03/09/2015 21:16
Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
une 2010: NGA and CCSSO release the final Common Core State Standards.
Here is a document listing whether and when each state that adopted the Common Core State Standards:
https://0e3dbf1b-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.c...UQDPAqHVWecX3Br&attredirects=0
Alabama: November 2010
Alaska: did not adopt
Arizona: June 2010
Arkansas: July 2010
California: August 2010
Colorado: August 2010
Connecticut: July 2010
Delaware: August 2010
DC: July 2010
Florida: July 2010
Georgia: July 2010
Hawaii: June 2010
Idaho: January 2011
Illinois: June 2010
Indiana: August 2010 (revoked in March 2014)
Iowa: July 2010
Kansas: August 2010
Kentucky: February 2010
Louisiana: July 2010
Maine: April 2011
Maryland: June 2010
Massachusetts: July 2010
Michigan: June 2010
Minnesota: authorization to revise English-language standards in 2009-2010
Mississippi: June 2010
Missouri: August 2010
Montana: November 2011
Nebraska: did not adopt
Nevada: June 2010
New Hampshire: July 2010
New Jersey: June 2010
New Mexico: June 2010
New York: July 2010
North Carolina: June 2010
North Dakota: June 2011
Ohio: June 2010
Oklahoma: June 2010
Oregon: October 2010
Pennsylvania: July 2010
Rhode Island: July 2010
South Carolina: July 2010
South Dakota: November 2010
Tennessee: July 2010
Texas: did not adopt
Utah: August 2010
Virginia: did not adopt
Washington: July 2011
West Virginia: May 2010
Wisconsin: June 2010
Wyoming: June 2010
The document below is also from the CC website. Apparently it is true that standards were adopted BEFORE they were reviewed. Look at the timeline. The vast majority of strates adopted it in 2010 (June 2010 to be precise). That was the very month they were released. Even CC cites 2011 as being a year when the states reviewed them (AFTER THEY HAD ALREADY ADOPTED THEM).
CCSSO and NGA request states’ feedback on a revised draft of the K-12 grade by grade college and career readiness standards. Several independent reviews of the standards begin.
FEBRUARY 2010
Revised version of K-12 grade by grade college and career readiness standards distributed to states.
MARCH 2010
CCSSO and NGA release draft K-12 grade by grade college and career readiness standards for public comment on www.corestandards.org. Educators and members of the public provide comments, summarized here.
JUNE 2010
NGA and CCSSO release the final Common Core State Standards.
CCSSO and NGA release report summarizing the work of the validation committee, which reviewed the standards and found them:
Reflective of the core knowledge and skills in ELA and mathematics that students need to be college- and career-ready;
Appropriate in terms of their level of clarity and specificity;
Comparable to the expectations of other leading nations;
Informed by available research or evidence;
The result of processes that reflect best practices for standards development;
A solid starting point for adoption of cross-state common core standards; and
A sound basis for eventual development of standards-based assessments.
2011
States and territories undergo their own processes for reviewing, adopting, and (in some states) ratifying the adoption of the Common Core State Standards. In each case, after reviewing the new standards, state boards of education members, governors, legislators, and/or chief state school officers took action to replace their existing standards with the Common Core State Standards.
2012
States and territories undergo their own processes for reviewing, adopting, and (in some states) ratifying the adoption of the Common Core State Standards. In each case, after reviewing the new standards, state boards of education members, governors, legislators, and/or chief state school officers took action to replace their existing standards with the Common Core State Standards.
2013
As of December 2013, 45 states, the Department of Defense Education Activity, Washington D.C., Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands and the U.S. Virgin Islands have adopted the CCSS in ELA/literacy and math. They are now in the process of implementing the standards locally.
2014
As of June 2014, 43 states, the Department of Defense Education Activity, Washington D.C., Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands and the U.S. Virgin Islands have adopted the CCSS in ELA/literacy and math. They are now in the process of implementing the standards locally.
Adoption
Anonymous
03/09/2015 21:13
Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous
03/09/2015 21:04
Subject: "Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Link to the timeline for 2010 here: http://www.corestandards.org/about-the-standards/development-process/#timeline-2010
Anonymous
03/09/2015 21:03
Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:
They obviously weren't all that fine, because it was the states that felt the need to come up with a new set of standards - which became Common Core.
Myth. Read the history. Money encouraged them and they adopted them before they were developed. Gates drove this train.
I've read the history. "They adopted them before they were developed" is the myth. Two states (Kentucky and West Virginia) adopted the Common Core standards after the standards were distributed to the states in February 2010 but before the final release of the standards in June 2010.
Here is the timeline for 2010, leading to the release of the final standards in June 2010:
January 2010: CCSSO and NGA request states’ feedback on a revised draft of the K-12 grade by grade college and career readiness standards. Several independent reviews of the standards begin.
February 2010: Revised version of K-12 grade by grade college and career readiness standards distributed to states.
March 2010: CCSSO and NGA release draft K-12 grade by grade college and career readiness standards for public comment on www.corestandards.org. Educators and members of the public provide comments, summarized here.
June 2010: NGA and CCSSO release the final Common Core State Standards.
Here is a document listing whether and when each state that adopted the Common Core State Standards:
https://0e3dbf1b-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/ncslccssupdate/CCR-State-Policy-Resources/resources-and-comments/NCSL%20-%20Authority%20to%20Adopt%20Standards.pdf?attachauth=ANoY7cos34nZp_k1n5onA5o4b_pJExn4wbKlvns9mRVvE6lS2KQXgB2as8g25AA_vNKGamw2-WpI8UnraJgnYwWhEV9knCgZBsXa5t4I2ybD5lKbEzaWm6DyVW-Tzk2EOrfoNV3-bhCtjlKrM-XDyeoHngIDodtUG4707UIZLbWr6HSY-YDfABHPYuB7jT5wDefYhsSHJ5e3A8OBDD3FXmev8FvIbMw0CRSKH7OuaJO-343TAaPAWxFDCqygYlfWj1tY38aaTTeEYY7eQWLw3HiZbVDtbD1wz3uuBzd-FolOogb7V5sraGNxi9TAAUQDPAqHVWecX3Br&attredirects=0
Alabama: November 2010
Alaska: did not adopt
Arizona: June 2010
Arkansas: July 2010
California: August 2010
Colorado: August 2010
Connecticut: July 2010
Delaware: August 2010
DC: July 2010
Florida: July 2010
Georgia: July 2010
Hawaii: June 2010
Idaho: January 2011
Illinois: June 2010
Indiana: August 2010 (revoked in March 2014)
Iowa: July 2010
Kansas: August 2010
Kentucky: February 2010
Louisiana: July 2010
Maine: April 2011
Maryland: June 2010
Massachusetts: July 2010
Michigan: June 2010
Minnesota: authorization to revise English-language standards in 2009-2010
Mississippi: June 2010
Missouri: August 2010
Montana: November 2011
Nebraska: did not adopt
Nevada: June 2010
New Hampshire: July 2010
New Jersey: June 2010
New Mexico: June 2010
New York: July 2010
North Carolina: June 2010
North Dakota: June 2011
Ohio: June 2010
Oklahoma: June 2010
Oregon: October 2010
Pennsylvania: July 2010
Rhode Island: July 2010
South Carolina: July 2010
South Dakota: November 2010
Tennessee: July 2010
Texas: did not adopt
Utah: August 2010
Virginia: did not adopt
Washington: July 2011
West Virginia: May 2010
Wisconsin: June 2010
Wyoming: June 2010
Anonymous
03/09/2015 20:26
Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
They thought it would be politically expedient.
And, Gates money was flowing.
Anonymous
03/09/2015 20:23
Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
If it worked out so fine when all of the states had their own sets of standards, how come the National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers thought that it would be a good idea to develop a common set of standards?
They thought it would be politically expedient.
Anonymous
03/09/2015 20:03
Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
They obviously weren't all that fine, because it was the states that felt the need to come up with a new set of standards - which became Common Core.
Myth. Read the history. Money encouraged them and they adopted them before they were developed. Gates drove this train.
Anonymous
03/09/2015 19:49
Subject: "Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:Well, we can test this empirically, because the states already did all have their own sets of standards. How did that work out? Fine.
Did the states have high-quality standards? Yes, many had very appropriate standards.
Did they fix the standards when there were problems? Yes, there has been a lot going on in education over the past 20 years or so.
And how much money did it cost the states to all develop their own sets of standards? Not as much as it is costing to switch to CC. Plus, that is already money spent so they don't have to spend it again.
They obviously weren't all that fine, because it was the states that felt the need to come up with a new set of standards - which became Common Core.
Anonymous
03/09/2015 19:49
Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Step 2: The teachers will teach each child at his level and push and pull him as far as possible. The teachers will be allowed to teach and stop being required to spend all their time evaluating data.
Anonymous
03/09/2015 19:48
Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:What is step 2, given that you have not said anything about getting rid of the NCLB requirement for states to have standards?
States had standards WAY before NCLB. NCLB did not suddenly mean that states had to come up with standards.
Were states required to have standards before NCLB? Did all states have standards before NCLB? Which states did, and which states didn't? How long before NCLB did those states have standards?
Anonymous
03/09/2015 19:47
Subject: "Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:Well, we can test this empirically, because the states already did all have their own sets of standards. How did that work out? Fine.
Did the states have high-quality standards? Yes, many had very appropriate standards.
Did they fix the standards when there were problems? Yes, there has been a lot going on in education over the past 20 years or so.
And how much money did it cost the states to all develop their own sets of standards? Not as much as it is costing to switch to CC. Plus, that is already money spent so they don't have to spend it again.
If it worked out so fine when all of the states had their own sets of standards, how come the National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers thought that it would be a good idea to develop a common set of standards?
Did all of the states (not just "many") have high-quality standards? Which states had high-quality standards, and which didn't?
Could you please give some examples of states fixing standards when there were problems?
How much, exactly, did it cost to switch to the Common Core standards? Not to mention that that is also already money spent.
Anonymous
03/09/2015 19:46
Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
What is step 2, given that you have not said anything about getting rid of the NCLB requirement for states to have standards?
States had standards WAY before NCLB. NCLB did not suddenly mean that states had to come up with standards.