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Anonymous wrote:Age band is a grouping system (i.e., birth year, seasonal year, school year, etc.), and RAE is a result of that grouping system where people who are born earlier in that system gain a developmental advantage.

RAE is the result of an “accumulated advantage” and in terms of RAE is correlated to being the oldest over many years based on age cohorting.

The accumulated advantage is the benefit / detriment. Not the age banding. As someone pointed out, there are other solutions such as bio-banding that can alleviate the accumulated advantage. There are others as well.

The issue is much deeper that “durrr age bands is different…not my duuuur child is oldest and best.” The change doesn’t eliminate the to date accumulated advantage / disadvantage. And the reshuffling will likely have little affect on anyone older than 7 or 8 currently. Each year the impact RAE has in athletics is diminished - with a maximum impact of about 10% at the earliest, and less than 1% before they exit youth.

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Anonymous wrote:Age band is a grouping system (i.e., birth year, seasonal year, school year, etc.), and RAE is a result of that grouping system where people who are born earlier in that system gain a developmental advantage.

RAE is the result of an “accumulated advantage” and in terms of RAE is correlated to being the oldest over many years based on age cohorting.

The accumulated advantage is the benefit / detriment. Not the age banding. As someone pointed out, there are other solutions such as bio-banding that can alleviate the accumulated advantage. There are others as well.

The issue is much deeper that “durrr age bands is different…not my duuuur child is oldest and best.” The change doesn’t eliminate the to date accumulated advantage / disadvantage. And the reshuffling will likely have little affect on anyone older than 7 or 8 currently. Each year the impact RAE has in athletics is diminished - with a maximum impact of about 10% at the earliest, and less than 1% before they exit youth.

Anonymous wrote:Age band is a grouping system (i.e., birth year, seasonal year, school year, etc.), and RAE is a result of that grouping system where people who are born earlier in that system gain a developmental advantage.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow this birthyear registration system sure helped out the men's national team. I am soo impressed with what I am watching right now.

If you like the USMNT BY is/was just a baby step in the right direction. Unfortunately to be truly competitive we need a league thats completely independent of the pro teams/clubs that play in it. If pro clubs lived and died on wins and losses there would be much better players which would translate into USMNT wins.

Going to BY wasn't a baby step, it was known to be irrelevant to USMNT. It just sends different birth months to USMT because RAE wasn't reduced.

You must see RAE in everything you do.

If you don't know enough, you can ask questions rather than butchering an attempt at a put down. "•Changing to birth year registration doesn’t eliminate relative age effect (RAE) because whenever there is a defined age range, someone will be the oldest and someone will be the youngest"

DP.

You described age bands, not RAE. You’re not half as smart as you think you are.

Good to know RAE has nothing to do with age bands, genius. LMAO

Amazing! Next step for you is figuring out everything else since you’ve got age bands down.

You is learning!

"The relative age effect (RAE) is the over-representation of individuals born earlier in a selection period compared to those born later, leading to a bias in fields like sports and academia."

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Anonymous wrote:Age band is a grouping system (i.e., birth year, seasonal year, school year, etc.), and RAE is a result of that grouping system where people who are born earlier in that system gain a developmental advantage.

Right and changing to age year range dates from SY to BY or BY to SY doesn’t eliminate RAE because whenever there is a defined age range, someone will be the oldest and someone will be the youngest.

Anonymous wrote:Age band is a grouping system (i.e., birth year, seasonal year, school year, etc.), and RAE is a result of that grouping system where people who are born earlier in that system gain a developmental advantage.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow this birthyear registration system sure helped out the men's national team. I am soo impressed with what I am watching right now.

If you like the USMNT BY is/was just a baby step in the right direction. Unfortunately to be truly competitive we need a league thats completely independent of the pro teams/clubs that play in it. If pro clubs lived and died on wins and losses there would be much better players which would translate into USMNT wins.

Going to BY wasn't a baby step, it was known to be irrelevant to USMNT. It just sends different birth months to USMT because RAE wasn't reduced.

You must see RAE in everything you do.

If you don't know enough, you can ask questions rather than butchering an attempt at a put down. "•Changing to birth year registration doesn’t eliminate relative age effect (RAE) because whenever there is a defined age range, someone will be the oldest and someone will be the youngest"

DP.

You described age bands, not RAE. You’re not half as smart as you think you are.

Good to know RAE has nothing to do with age bands, genius. LMAO

Amazing! Next step for you is figuring out everything else since you’ve got age bands down.

You is learning!

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Anonymous wrote:Biggest step would be to flush out the washed out pros from Europe out of the college system. No 18year old can compete with 24 year old pros. The NCAA doesn't think of allowing this for basketball but for soccer they do.

College is supposed to be about getting trained in something so you can do that something professionally. How does rostering former pros or Academy washouts work in that paradigm?

Since players are now getting paid to play in college have much less issues with the Academy washouts. Hopefully now that there's money involved college soccer will get more like professional.

100%

People misunderstand college soccer in the pyramid.

In basketball, football and baseball, college is a step to the pros. In soccer, college is an exit ramp.

The biggest obstacle to USNTs taking the next step isn’t BY/ST, it isn’t P2P, it isn’t “relegation” in the MLS. It is FIFA Article 19 reform.

FIFA protects UEFA from the rest of the world. More American youth need to be training in world class academies from 15-18yo. We are very competitive up until about 16yo when the Europe and South America (Columbia, Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay) blow past us.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow this birthyear registration system sure helped out the men's national team. I am soo impressed with what I am watching right now.

If you like the USMNT BY is/was just a baby step in the right direction. Unfortunately to be truly competitive we need a league thats completely independent of the pro teams/clubs that play in it. If pro clubs lived and died on wins and losses there would be much better players which would translate into USMNT wins.

Going to BY wasn't a baby step, it was known to be irrelevant to USMNT. It just sends different birth months to USMT because RAE wasn't reduced.

You must see RAE in everything you do.

If you don't know enough, you can ask questions rather than butchering an attempt at a put down. "•Changing to birth year registration doesn’t eliminate relative age effect (RAE) because whenever there is a defined age range, someone will be the oldest and someone will be the youngest"

DP.

You described age bands, not RAE. You’re not half as smart as you think you are.

Good to know RAE has nothing to do with age bands, genius. LMAO

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Anonymous wrote:Wow this birthyear registration system sure helped out the men's national team. I am soo impressed with what I am watching right now.

If you like the USMNT BY is/was just a baby step in the right direction. Unfortunately to be truly competitive we need a league thats completely independent of the pro teams/clubs that play in it. If pro clubs lived and died on wins and losses there would be much better players which would translate into USMNT wins.

Going to BY wasn't a baby step, it was known to be irrelevant to USMNT. It just sends different birth months to USMT because RAE wasn't reduced.

You must see RAE in everything you do.

If you don't know enough, you can ask questions rather than butchering an attempt at a put down. "•Changing to birth year registration doesn’t eliminate relative age effect (RAE) because whenever there is a defined age range, someone will be the oldest and someone will be the youngest"

DP.

You described age bands, not RAE. You’re not half as smart as you think you are.

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Anonymous wrote:Biggest step would be to flush out the washed out pros from Europe out of the college system. No 18year old can compete with 24 year old pros. The NCAA doesn't think of allowing this for basketball but for soccer they do.

College is supposed to be about getting trained in something so you can do that something professionally. How does rostering former pros or Academy washouts work in that paradigm?

Since players are now getting paid to play in college have much less issues with the Academy washouts. Hopefully now that there's money involved college soccer will get more like professional.

In basketball, football and baseball, college is a step to the pros. In soccer, college is an exit ramp.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow this birthyear registration system sure helped out the men's national team. I am soo impressed with what I am watching right now.

If you like the USMNT BY is/was just a baby step in the right direction. Unfortunately to be truly competitive we need a league thats completely independent of the pro teams/clubs that play in it. If pro clubs lived and died on wins and losses there would be much better players which would translate into USMNT wins.

Going to BY wasn't a baby step, it was known to be irrelevant to USMNT. It just sends different birth months to USMT because RAE wasn't reduced.

You must see RAE in everything you do.

If you don't know enough, you can ask questions rather than butchering an attempt at a put down. "•Changing to birth year registration doesn’t eliminate relative age effect (RAE) because whenever there is a defined age range, someone will be the oldest and someone will be the youngest"

DP.

You described age bands, not RAE. You’re not half as smart as you think you are.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow this birthyear registration system sure helped out the men's national team. I am soo impressed with what I am watching right now.

If you like the USMNT BY is/was just a baby step in the right direction. Unfortunately to be truly competitive we need a league thats completely independent of the pro teams/clubs that play in it. If pro clubs lived and died on wins and losses there would be much better players which would translate into USMNT wins.

Going to BY wasn't a baby step, it was known to be irrelevant to USMNT. It just sends different birth months to USMT because RAE wasn't reduced.

You must see RAE in everything you do.

If you don't know enough, you can ask questions rather than butchering an attempt at a put down. "•Changing to birth year registration doesn’t eliminate relative age effect (RAE) because whenever there is a defined age range, someone will be the oldest and someone will be the youngest"