Anonymous
Post 05/28/2021 20:02     Subject: Re:2021 DMV Boys Outlook

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Anonymous wrote:GZ is only the 4th best time in the WCAC...... Disappointing. Might be time for a new coach.


Its great to see the WCAC improving overall as a lacrosse conference, its great for the sport.

In the late 80's and 90's it was DeMatha and DeMatha only.

Gonzaga had some good years in the late 90's and early 2000's. They began to garner national attention post 2013.

In my opinion, I have never really thought Casey was a particular good coach. Gonzaga has always had the numbers (one of the largest all boys schools in the DMV) and the athletes to put together a very strong team. As the sport continues to grow and new coaches arrives on the scene, it will only become more difficult for the Purple Eagles to stay at the top of the DMV. I'm not suggesting Casey is a BAD coach but they need to address their coaching staff.

With the economy improving, the Mater Dei pipeline swinging back towards GP, St Johns now becoming a lacrosse power, the Annapolis area pipeline drying up, it will be interesting to see how Gonzaga fairs over the next few years.




I think rise of PVI will also factor in. Lots of VA kids now considering that as an option. There was zero movement on the PVI waitlist this year, even amongst athletic recruits.



They will have the kids and talent but they need a new coach and voice.... time for that to change!!!!


What's the coaching issue there? Seems like they've improved and lots of kids going on to play in college?


I also think this year is not the one to be over evaluating coaching from a wins and losses perspective. With kids at multiple schools in different grades, I've witnessed a huge spectrum of where kids are in terms of how they are handling the pandemic, etc.

Everything has been so fluid and chaotic, if kids are having a positive team experience and getting better at all, coaches are doing their part. We also have no sense of what coaches and their families might be enduring.

For high school sports, I say save criticism for performance for a more normal year.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2021 18:43     Subject: 2021 DMV Boys Outlook

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Anonymous wrote:Gonzaga is banged up. Those guys must have taken all of the Covid downtime to do NOTHING.


They actually abided by Covid restrictions. Too bad they’re being punished for following the rules.


Punished? Losing games?


If you practice in an area that says it’s allowed then you abided by the rules. This is a free country right?
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2021 17:24     Subject: 2021 DMV Boys Outlook

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gonzaga is banged up. Those guys must have taken all of the Covid downtime to do NOTHING.


They actually abided by Covid restrictions. Too bad they’re being punished for following the rules.


Punished? Losing games?
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2021 11:06     Subject: Re:2021 DMV Boys Outlook

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PVI lax will likely benefit from the new Loudon campus, but it will hurt their other boys programs. The basketball pipeline from DC and PG county isn’t commuting to Loudon and too many powerhouse public’s in baseball and football that put a ton of athletes in college programs for families to choose to pay a private school tuition.


No doubt in my mind PVI lacrosse will benefit from the new campus. Anytime a schools applicant pool increases and the number of applicants sky-rocket, these are all good things.

Sure, PVI hoops might suffer as a result of the campus moving out to Loudon county (the drive from PG out to South Riding VA would be a crazy ask for any student athlete to do on a daily basis) overall though, I do think PVI athletics will only increase.

I disagree with you about PVI football. There is a ton of top football talent in the Leesburg / Ashburn area. While traditional football powers, Stone Bridge and Briar Woods have very established football programs (I could be forgetting another school) there is no reason not to think PVI could not build a competitive football program. Will they ever get to the level of SJC or DM or GZ or GC, probably not. Could they get to Ryken's level, absolutely and they probably will.

Side note, I could care less if PVI basketball were to suffer. Too much of WCAC basketball is driven by the AAU coaches who simply pimp kids around for the best scholarship offer. Some of these families have zero loyalty to the schools they currently attend and simply go because their AAU coach pushed them there.





Move to Loudoun will not affect basketball recruiting, that is misinformed. Kids never commuted to Fairfax either -- basketball kids moved in with other families or their families moved. Basketball parents want the same thing for their families as anyone else and will make the same if not greater sacrifices because the payoff for hoops is so much bigger. The biggest recent star out of PVI basketball was straight out of Leesburg.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2021 10:39     Subject: Re:2021 DMV Boys Outlook

PVI lax will likely benefit from the new Loudon campus, but it will hurt their other boys programs. The basketball pipeline from DC and PG county isn’t commuting to Loudon and too many powerhouse public’s in baseball and football that put a ton of athletes in college programs for families to choose to pay a private school tuition.


No doubt in my mind PVI lacrosse will benefit from the new campus. Anytime a schools applicant pool increases and the number of applicants sky-rocket, these are all good things.

Sure, PVI hoops might suffer as a result of the campus moving out to Loudon county (the drive from PG out to South Riding VA would be a crazy ask for any student athlete to do on a daily basis) overall though, I do think PVI athletics will only increase.

I disagree with you about PVI football. There is a ton of top football talent in the Leesburg / Ashburn area. While traditional football powers, Stone Bridge and Briar Woods have very established football programs (I could be forgetting another school) there is no reason not to think PVI could not build a competitive football program. Will they ever get to the level of SJC or DM or GZ or GC, probably not. Could they get to Ryken's level, absolutely and they probably will.

Side note, I could care less if PVI basketball were to suffer. Too much of WCAC basketball is driven by the AAU coaches who simply pimp kids around for the best scholarship offer. Some of these families have zero loyalty to the schools they currently attend and simply go because their AAU coach pushed them there.



Anonymous
Post 05/28/2021 10:13     Subject: Re:2021 DMV Boys Outlook

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GZ is only the 4th best time in the WCAC...... Disappointing. Might be time for a new coach.


Its great to see the WCAC improving overall as a lacrosse conference, its great for the sport.

In the late 80's and 90's it was DeMatha and DeMatha only.

Gonzaga had some good years in the late 90's and early 2000's. They began to garner national attention post 2013.

In my opinion, I have never really thought Casey was a particular good coach. Gonzaga has always had the numbers (one of the largest all boys schools in the DMV) and the athletes to put together a very strong team. As the sport continues to grow and new coaches arrives on the scene, it will only become more difficult for the Purple Eagles to stay at the top of the DMV. I'm not suggesting Casey is a BAD coach but they need to address their coaching staff.

With the economy improving, the Mater Dei pipeline swinging back towards GP, St Johns now becoming a lacrosse power, the Annapolis area pipeline drying up, it will be interesting to see how Gonzaga fairs over the next few years.







I think rise of PVI will also factor in. Lots of VA kids now considering that as an option. There was zero movement on the PVI waitlist this year, even amongst athletic recruits.


PVI lax will likely benefit from the new Loudon campus, but it will hurt their other boys programs. The basketball pipeline from DC and PG county isn’t commuting to Loudon and too many powerhouse public’s in baseball and football that put a ton of athletes in college programs for families to choose to pay a private school tuition.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2021 10:05     Subject: Re:2021 DMV Boys Outlook

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GZ is only the 4th best time in the WCAC...... Disappointing. Might be time for a new coach.


Its great to see the WCAC improving overall as a lacrosse conference, its great for the sport.

In the late 80's and 90's it was DeMatha and DeMatha only.

Gonzaga had some good years in the late 90's and early 2000's. They began to garner national attention post 2013.

In my opinion, I have never really thought Casey was a particular good coach. Gonzaga has always had the numbers (one of the largest all boys schools in the DMV) and the athletes to put together a very strong team. As the sport continues to grow and new coaches arrives on the scene, it will only become more difficult for the Purple Eagles to stay at the top of the DMV. I'm not suggesting Casey is a BAD coach but they need to address their coaching staff.

With the economy improving, the Mater Dei pipeline swinging back towards GP, St Johns now becoming a lacrosse power, the Annapolis area pipeline drying up, it will be interesting to see how Gonzaga fairs over the next few years.







I think rise of PVI will also factor in. Lots of VA kids now considering that as an option. There was zero movement on the PVI waitlist this year, even amongst athletic recruits.


It will soon be all Loudoun kids. Better and closer options for other Va. kids.

Anonymous
Post 05/28/2021 09:56     Subject: Re:2021 DMV Boys Outlook

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GZ is only the 4th best time in the WCAC...... Disappointing. Might be time for a new coach.


Its great to see the WCAC improving overall as a lacrosse conference, its great for the sport.

In the late 80's and 90's it was DeMatha and DeMatha only.

Gonzaga had some good years in the late 90's and early 2000's. They began to garner national attention post 2013.

In my opinion, I have never really thought Casey was a particular good coach. Gonzaga has always had the numbers (one of the largest all boys schools in the DMV) and the athletes to put together a very strong team. As the sport continues to grow and new coaches arrives on the scene, it will only become more difficult for the Purple Eagles to stay at the top of the DMV. I'm not suggesting Casey is a BAD coach but they need to address their coaching staff.

With the economy improving, the Mater Dei pipeline swinging back towards GP, St Johns now becoming a lacrosse power, the Annapolis area pipeline drying up, it will be interesting to see how Gonzaga fairs over the next few years.




I think rise of PVI will also factor in. Lots of VA kids now considering that as an option. There was zero movement on the PVI waitlist this year, even amongst athletic recruits.



They will have the kids and talent but they need a new coach and voice.... time for that to change!!!!


What's the coaching issue there? Seems like they've improved and lots of kids going on to play in college?
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2021 09:50     Subject: Re:2021 DMV Boys Outlook

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GZ is only the 4th best time in the WCAC...... Disappointing. Might be time for a new coach.


Its great to see the WCAC improving overall as a lacrosse conference, its great for the sport.

In the late 80's and 90's it was DeMatha and DeMatha only.

Gonzaga had some good years in the late 90's and early 2000's. They began to garner national attention post 2013.

In my opinion, I have never really thought Casey was a particular good coach. Gonzaga has always had the numbers (one of the largest all boys schools in the DMV) and the athletes to put together a very strong team. As the sport continues to grow and new coaches arrives on the scene, it will only become more difficult for the Purple Eagles to stay at the top of the DMV. I'm not suggesting Casey is a BAD coach but they need to address their coaching staff.

With the economy improving, the Mater Dei pipeline swinging back towards GP, St Johns now becoming a lacrosse power, the Annapolis area pipeline drying up, it will be interesting to see how Gonzaga fairs over the next few years.




I think rise of PVI will also factor in. Lots of VA kids now considering that as an option. There was zero movement on the PVI waitlist this year, even amongst athletic recruits.



They will have the kids and talent but they need a new coach and voice.... time for that to change!!!!
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2021 09:44     Subject: Re:2021 DMV Boys Outlook

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GZ is only the 4th best time in the WCAC...... Disappointing. Might be time for a new coach.


Its great to see the WCAC improving overall as a lacrosse conference, its great for the sport.

In the late 80's and 90's it was DeMatha and DeMatha only.

Gonzaga had some good years in the late 90's and early 2000's. They began to garner national attention post 2013.

In my opinion, I have never really thought Casey was a particular good coach. Gonzaga has always had the numbers (one of the largest all boys schools in the DMV) and the athletes to put together a very strong team. As the sport continues to grow and new coaches arrives on the scene, it will only become more difficult for the Purple Eagles to stay at the top of the DMV. I'm not suggesting Casey is a BAD coach but they need to address their coaching staff.

With the economy improving, the Mater Dei pipeline swinging back towards GP, St Johns now becoming a lacrosse power, the Annapolis area pipeline drying up, it will be interesting to see how Gonzaga fairs over the next few years.







I think rise of PVI will also factor in. Lots of VA kids now considering that as an option. There was zero movement on the PVI waitlist this year, even amongst athletic recruits.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2021 09:21     Subject: Re:2021 DMV Boys Outlook

Anonymous wrote:GZ is only the 4th best time in the WCAC...... Disappointing. Might be time for a new coach.


Its great to see the WCAC improving overall as a lacrosse conference, its great for the sport.

In the late 80's and 90's it was DeMatha and DeMatha only.

Gonzaga had some good years in the late 90's and early 2000's. They began to garner national attention post 2013.

In my opinion, I have never really thought Casey was a particular good coach. Gonzaga has always had the numbers (one of the largest all boys schools in the DMV) and the athletes to put together a very strong team. As the sport continues to grow and new coaches arrives on the scene, it will only become more difficult for the Purple Eagles to stay at the top of the DMV. I'm not suggesting Casey is a BAD coach but they need to address their coaching staff.

With the economy improving, the Mater Dei pipeline swinging back towards GP, St Johns now becoming a lacrosse power, the Annapolis area pipeline drying up, it will be interesting to see how Gonzaga fairs over the next few years.





Anonymous
Post 05/28/2021 08:31     Subject: 2021 DMV Boys Outlook

Anonymous wrote:Gonzaga is banged up. Those guys must have taken all of the Covid downtime to do NOTHING.


They actually abided by Covid restrictions. Too bad they’re being punished for following the rules.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2021 07:31     Subject: 2021 DMV Boys Outlook

Every team in the miaa beat dematha this year.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2021 23:24     Subject: Re:2021 DMV Boys Outlook

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DeMatha 10 Gonzaga 9 Final


Is God still purple if GZ finishes 4th in a very weak WCAC?


God switched his season tickets to SJC


Brilliant
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2021 22:52     Subject: 2021 DMV Boys Outlook

Anonymous wrote:Gonzaga is banged up. Those guys must have taken all of the Covid downtime to do NOTHING.


What comes around, goes around. Well past time for GZ to take some beatings