Anonymous
09/05/2025 21:58
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
hahaAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agreed. They will based it off of this calendar and not your grade year. This is why they aren’t going with graduation year. Graduation year and school year are the same thing, so you still with seasonal year to base it on a calendar.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yup, school grade doesn't matter when the rules are birth year or seasonal year based.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Out of 3 teams played for and 5 teams tried out for, nobody everybody ever asked or knew what grade my kid was.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They hinted that players will be placed on the correct team. They specifically avoided anything Aug specific. However I got the feeling they would put an Aug birthday on a B team with their grade before letting them play down on a lower grade team.
I think that only happens if the parent pushes it. Besides, a B team is either RL or USYS, which might have different guidance (if any). The only Aug players who make it to an ECNL team will be those who already would play up anyway.
Yes this was strongly hinted to. Everything they said was around player ability defining which team they would be placed on. However I dont see a situation where a club would go out of their way to place an Aug birthday on a grade below them first team. They would be kept with their grade and place on the second team.
No, they will totally do it, if that Aug player is good enough. They want to win more than anything else. They'll only place that player on a higher team if they are good enough.
And they will still pull them down to the younger team for wins.
Small clubs might when they're youngers.
Big clubs wont want to deal with the hassle and will just group all players by grade.
It's actually the opposite. Big clubs want to field the best team possible under the age group rules. They would hamstring themselves against the opposition not to. You're basically saying clubs in states with Aug. 1 school cut offs would be forever advantaged. Not going to happen.
What im saying is when players attend tryouts the clhbs will first ask which grade and then ask when born. As long as the when born checks out they'll be grouped with players their grade.
Thats because in BY it doesnt matter.
It's called SY or School Year
Per US Soccer, SY stands for “seasonal year” or 8/1.
For what it’s worth, our mlsnext club now asks for grade in addition to birthdate during registration. Maybe they want this for recruiting purposes?
US Soccer is calling it Season Year to not imply anything.
Leagues call it School Year.
Its the difference of saying I drive a car vs I drive a Jeep.
Regardless of what leagues call it, school year implies that it is based on grade or that grade matters. It doesn’t. It’s 8/1-7/31. Calling it seasonal year or 8/1 is more accurate.
SY = School Year
GY = Graduating Year
These are very different things. SY does not allow parents to cheat by holding their kid back (regrade) so they're the oldest one on the team. GY allows parents to do this.
Agreed, but most people don’t bother to read a statement with the actual age cutoffs. They see school year and immediately equate that with grad year and start ranting about how unfair that is. Seasonal year is a more benign term.
Yes, and people start wishing for BY again. The grass is always greener!
Yep, now you understand why people like BY.
SY can work but as you can see there's several special interests that are intent on changing SY into something it's not. If the powers that be would grow some balls and implement rules that bar the crazies from participating everything would work out and you wouldn't have the endless back and forth.
Put the tin hat down. It’ll all be ok.
Anonymous
09/05/2025 21:15
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agreed. They will based it off of this calendar and not your grade year. This is why they aren’t going with graduation year. Graduation year and school year are the same thing, so you still with seasonal year to base it on a calendar.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yup, school grade doesn't matter when the rules are birth year or seasonal year based.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Out of 3 teams played for and 5 teams tried out for, nobody everybody ever asked or knew what grade my kid was.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They hinted that players will be placed on the correct team. They specifically avoided anything Aug specific. However I got the feeling they would put an Aug birthday on a B team with their grade before letting them play down on a lower grade team.
I think that only happens if the parent pushes it. Besides, a B team is either RL or USYS, which might have different guidance (if any). The only Aug players who make it to an ECNL team will be those who already would play up anyway.
Yes this was strongly hinted to. Everything they said was around player ability defining which team they would be placed on. However I dont see a situation where a club would go out of their way to place an Aug birthday on a grade below them first team. They would be kept with their grade and place on the second team.
No, they will totally do it, if that Aug player is good enough. They want to win more than anything else. They'll only place that player on a higher team if they are good enough.
And they will still pull them down to the younger team for wins.
Small clubs might when they're youngers.
Big clubs wont want to deal with the hassle and will just group all players by grade.
It's actually the opposite. Big clubs want to field the best team possible under the age group rules. They would hamstring themselves against the opposition not to. You're basically saying clubs in states with Aug. 1 school cut offs would be forever advantaged. Not going to happen.
What im saying is when players attend tryouts the clhbs will first ask which grade and then ask when born. As long as the when born checks out they'll be grouped with players their grade.
Thats because in BY it doesnt matter.
It's called SY or School Year
Per US Soccer, SY stands for “seasonal year” or 8/1.
For what it’s worth, our mlsnext club now asks for grade in addition to birthdate during registration. Maybe they want this for recruiting purposes?
US Soccer is calling it Season Year to not imply anything.
Leagues call it School Year.
Its the difference of saying I drive a car vs I drive a Jeep.
Regardless of what leagues call it, school year implies that it is based on grade or that grade matters. It doesn’t. It’s 8/1-7/31. Calling it seasonal year or 8/1 is more accurate.
SY = School Year
GY = Graduating Year
These are very different things. SY does not allow parents to cheat by holding their kid back (regrade) so they're the oldest one on the team. GY allows parents to do this.
Agreed, but most people don’t bother to read a statement with the actual age cutoffs. They see school year and immediately equate that with grad year and start ranting about how unfair that is. Seasonal year is a more benign term.
Yes, and people start wishing for BY again. The grass is always greener!
Yep, now you understand why people like BY.
SY can work but as you can see there's several special interests that are intent on changing SY into something it's not. If the powers that be would grow some balls and implement rules that bar the crazies from participating everything would work out and you wouldn't have the endless back and forth.
Put the tin hat down. It’ll all be ok.
Anonymous
09/05/2025 18:37
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agreed. They will based it off of this calendar and not your grade year. This is why they aren’t going with graduation year. Graduation year and school year are the same thing, so you still with seasonal year to base it on a calendar.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yup, school grade doesn't matter when the rules are birth year or seasonal year based.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Out of 3 teams played for and 5 teams tried out for, nobody everybody ever asked or knew what grade my kid was.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They hinted that players will be placed on the correct team. They specifically avoided anything Aug specific. However I got the feeling they would put an Aug birthday on a B team with their grade before letting them play down on a lower grade team.
I think that only happens if the parent pushes it. Besides, a B team is either RL or USYS, which might have different guidance (if any). The only Aug players who make it to an ECNL team will be those who already would play up anyway.
Yes this was strongly hinted to. Everything they said was around player ability defining which team they would be placed on. However I dont see a situation where a club would go out of their way to place an Aug birthday on a grade below them first team. They would be kept with their grade and place on the second team.
No, they will totally do it, if that Aug player is good enough. They want to win more than anything else. They'll only place that player on a higher team if they are good enough.
And they will still pull them down to the younger team for wins.
Small clubs might when they're youngers.
Big clubs wont want to deal with the hassle and will just group all players by grade.
It's actually the opposite. Big clubs want to field the best team possible under the age group rules. They would hamstring themselves against the opposition not to. You're basically saying clubs in states with Aug. 1 school cut offs would be forever advantaged. Not going to happen.
What im saying is when players attend tryouts the clhbs will first ask which grade and then ask when born. As long as the when born checks out they'll be grouped with players their grade.
Thats because in BY it doesnt matter.
It's called SY or School Year
Per US Soccer, SY stands for “seasonal year” or 8/1.
For what it’s worth, our mlsnext club now asks for grade in addition to birthdate during registration. Maybe they want this for recruiting purposes?
US Soccer is calling it Season Year to not imply anything.
Leagues call it School Year.
Its the difference of saying I drive a car vs I drive a Jeep.
Regardless of what leagues call it, school year implies that it is based on grade or that grade matters. It doesn’t. It’s 8/1-7/31. Calling it seasonal year or 8/1 is more accurate.
SY = School Year
GY = Graduating Year
These are very different things. SY does not allow parents to cheat by holding their kid back (regrade) so they're the oldest one on the team. GY allows parents to do this.
Agreed, but most people don’t bother to read a statement with the actual age cutoffs. They see school year and immediately equate that with grad year and start ranting about how unfair that is. Seasonal year is a more benign term.
Yes, and people start wishing for BY again. The grass is always greener!
Yep, now you understand why people like BY.
SY can work but as you can see there's several special interests that are intent on changing SY into something it's not. If the powers that be would grow some balls and implement rules that bar the crazies from participating everything would work out and you wouldn't have the endless back and forth.
Anonymous
09/05/2025 18:25
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agreed. They will based it off of this calendar and not your grade year. This is why they aren’t going with graduation year. Graduation year and school year are the same thing, so you still with seasonal year to base it on a calendar.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yup, school grade doesn't matter when the rules are birth year or seasonal year based.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Out of 3 teams played for and 5 teams tried out for, nobody everybody ever asked or knew what grade my kid was.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They hinted that players will be placed on the correct team. They specifically avoided anything Aug specific. However I got the feeling they would put an Aug birthday on a B team with their grade before letting them play down on a lower grade team.
I think that only happens if the parent pushes it. Besides, a B team is either RL or USYS, which might have different guidance (if any). The only Aug players who make it to an ECNL team will be those who already would play up anyway.
Yes this was strongly hinted to. Everything they said was around player ability defining which team they would be placed on. However I dont see a situation where a club would go out of their way to place an Aug birthday on a grade below them first team. They would be kept with their grade and place on the second team.
No, they will totally do it, if that Aug player is good enough. They want to win more than anything else. They'll only place that player on a higher team if they are good enough.
And they will still pull them down to the younger team for wins.
Small clubs might when they're youngers.
Big clubs wont want to deal with the hassle and will just group all players by grade.
It's actually the opposite. Big clubs want to field the best team possible under the age group rules. They would hamstring themselves against the opposition not to. You're basically saying clubs in states with Aug. 1 school cut offs would be forever advantaged. Not going to happen.
What im saying is when players attend tryouts the clhbs will first ask which grade and then ask when born. As long as the when born checks out they'll be grouped with players their grade.
Thats because in BY it doesnt matter.
It's called SY or School Year
Per US Soccer, SY stands for “seasonal year” or 8/1.
For what it’s worth, our mlsnext club now asks for grade in addition to birthdate during registration. Maybe they want this for recruiting purposes?
US Soccer is calling it Season Year to not imply anything.
Leagues call it School Year.
Its the difference of saying I drive a car vs I drive a Jeep.
Regardless of what leagues call it, school year implies that it is based on grade or that grade matters. It doesn’t. It’s 8/1-7/31. Calling it seasonal year or 8/1 is more accurate.
SY = School Year
GY = Graduating Year
These are very different things. SY does not allow parents to cheat by holding their kid back (regrade) so they're the oldest one on the team. GY allows parents to do this.
Agreed, but most people don’t bother to read a statement with the actual age cutoffs. They see school year and immediately equate that with grad year and start ranting about how unfair that is. Seasonal year is a more benign term.
Yes, and people start wishing for BY again. The grass is always greener!
Anonymous
09/05/2025 18:15
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agreed. They will based it off of this calendar and not your grade year. This is why they aren’t going with graduation year. Graduation year and school year are the same thing, so you still with seasonal year to base it on a calendar.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yup, school grade doesn't matter when the rules are birth year or seasonal year based.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Out of 3 teams played for and 5 teams tried out for, nobody everybody ever asked or knew what grade my kid was.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They hinted that players will be placed on the correct team. They specifically avoided anything Aug specific. However I got the feeling they would put an Aug birthday on a B team with their grade before letting them play down on a lower grade team.
I think that only happens if the parent pushes it. Besides, a B team is either RL or USYS, which might have different guidance (if any). The only Aug players who make it to an ECNL team will be those who already would play up anyway.
Yes this was strongly hinted to. Everything they said was around player ability defining which team they would be placed on. However I dont see a situation where a club would go out of their way to place an Aug birthday on a grade below them first team. They would be kept with their grade and place on the second team.
No, they will totally do it, if that Aug player is good enough. They want to win more than anything else. They'll only place that player on a higher team if they are good enough.
And they will still pull them down to the younger team for wins.
Small clubs might when they're youngers.
Big clubs wont want to deal with the hassle and will just group all players by grade.
It's actually the opposite. Big clubs want to field the best team possible under the age group rules. They would hamstring themselves against the opposition not to. You're basically saying clubs in states with Aug. 1 school cut offs would be forever advantaged. Not going to happen.
What im saying is when players attend tryouts the clhbs will first ask which grade and then ask when born. As long as the when born checks out they'll be grouped with players their grade.
Thats because in BY it doesnt matter.
It's called SY or School Year
Per US Soccer, SY stands for “seasonal year” or 8/1.
For what it’s worth, our mlsnext club now asks for grade in addition to birthdate during registration. Maybe they want this for recruiting purposes?
US Soccer is calling it Season Year to not imply anything.
Leagues call it School Year.
Its the difference of saying I drive a car vs I drive a Jeep.
Regardless of what leagues call it, school year implies that it is based on grade or that grade matters. It doesn’t. It’s 8/1-7/31. Calling it seasonal year or 8/1 is more accurate.
SY = School Year
GY = Graduating Year
These are very different things. SY does not allow parents to cheat by holding their kid back (regrade) so they're the oldest one on the team. GY allows parents to do this.
Agreed, but most people don’t bother to read a statement with the actual age cutoffs. They see school year and immediately equate that with grad year and start ranting about how unfair that is. Seasonal year is a more benign term.
They don't follow "school year" or "grad year" in youth club soccer. It's a nice to have, especially to hopefully grow the sport and college recruiting, but not essential.
Anonymous
09/05/2025 17:58
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agreed. They will based it off of this calendar and not your grade year. This is why they aren’t going with graduation year. Graduation year and school year are the same thing, so you still with seasonal year to base it on a calendar.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yup, school grade doesn't matter when the rules are birth year or seasonal year based.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Out of 3 teams played for and 5 teams tried out for, nobody everybody ever asked or knew what grade my kid was.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They hinted that players will be placed on the correct team. They specifically avoided anything Aug specific. However I got the feeling they would put an Aug birthday on a B team with their grade before letting them play down on a lower grade team.
I think that only happens if the parent pushes it. Besides, a B team is either RL or USYS, which might have different guidance (if any). The only Aug players who make it to an ECNL team will be those who already would play up anyway.
Yes this was strongly hinted to. Everything they said was around player ability defining which team they would be placed on. However I dont see a situation where a club would go out of their way to place an Aug birthday on a grade below them first team. They would be kept with their grade and place on the second team.
No, they will totally do it, if that Aug player is good enough. They want to win more than anything else. They'll only place that player on a higher team if they are good enough.
And they will still pull them down to the younger team for wins.
Small clubs might when they're youngers.
Big clubs wont want to deal with the hassle and will just group all players by grade.
It's actually the opposite. Big clubs want to field the best team possible under the age group rules. They would hamstring themselves against the opposition not to. You're basically saying clubs in states with Aug. 1 school cut offs would be forever advantaged. Not going to happen.
What im saying is when players attend tryouts the clhbs will first ask which grade and then ask when born. As long as the when born checks out they'll be grouped with players their grade.
Thats because in BY it doesnt matter.
It's called SY or School Year
Per US Soccer, SY stands for “seasonal year” or 8/1.
For what it’s worth, our mlsnext club now asks for grade in addition to birthdate during registration. Maybe they want this for recruiting purposes?
US Soccer is calling it Season Year to not imply anything.
Leagues call it School Year.
Its the difference of saying I drive a car vs I drive a Jeep.
Regardless of what leagues call it, school year implies that it is based on grade or that grade matters. It doesn’t. It’s 8/1-7/31. Calling it seasonal year or 8/1 is more accurate.
SY = School Year
GY = Graduating Year
These are very different things. SY does not allow parents to cheat by holding their kid back (regrade) so they're the oldest one on the team. GY allows parents to do this.
Agreed, but most people don’t bother to read a statement with the actual age cutoffs. They see school year and immediately equate that with grad year and start ranting about how unfair that is. Seasonal year is a more benign term.
Anonymous
09/05/2025 17:53
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
omg, we had a few thoughtful comments and then you had to chime in with nonsense.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agreed. They will based it off of this calendar and not your grade year. This is why they aren’t going with graduation year. Graduation year and school year are the same thing, so you still with seasonal year to base it on a calendar.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yup, school grade doesn't matter when the rules are birth year or seasonal year based.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Out of 3 teams played for and 5 teams tried out for, nobody everybody ever asked or knew what grade my kid was.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They hinted that players will be placed on the correct team. They specifically avoided anything Aug specific. However I got the feeling they would put an Aug birthday on a B team with their grade before letting them play down on a lower grade team.
I think that only happens if the parent pushes it. Besides, a B team is either RL or USYS, which might have different guidance (if any). The only Aug players who make it to an ECNL team will be those who already would play up anyway.
Yes this was strongly hinted to. Everything they said was around player ability defining which team they would be placed on. However I dont see a situation where a club would go out of their way to place an Aug birthday on a grade below them first team. They would be kept with their grade and place on the second team.
No, they will totally do it, if that Aug player is good enough. They want to win more than anything else. They'll only place that player on a higher team if they are good enough.
And they will still pull them down to the younger team for wins.
Small clubs might when they're youngers.
Big clubs wont want to deal with the hassle and will just group all players by grade.
It's actually the opposite. Big clubs want to field the best team possible under the age group rules. They would hamstring themselves against the opposition not to. You're basically saying clubs in states with Aug. 1 school cut offs would be forever advantaged. Not going to happen.
What im saying is when players attend tryouts the clhbs will first ask which grade and then ask when born. As long as the when born checks out they'll be grouped with players their grade.
Thats because in BY it doesnt matter.
It's called SY or School Year
Per US Soccer, SY stands for “seasonal year” or 8/1.
For what it’s worth, our mlsnext club now asks for grade in addition to birthdate during registration. Maybe they want this for recruiting purposes?
US Soccer is calling it Season Year to not imply anything.
Leagues call it School Year.
Its the difference of saying I drive a car vs I drive a Jeep.
Regardless of what leagues call it, school year implies that it is based on grade or that grade matters. It doesn’t. It’s 8/1-7/31. Calling it seasonal year or 8/1 is more accurate.
SY = School Year
GY = Graduating Year
These are very different things. SY does not allow parents to cheat by holding their kid back (regrade) so they're the oldest one on the team. GY allows parents to do this.
Anonymous
09/05/2025 17:52
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Agreed. They will based it off of this calendar and not your grade year. This is why they aren’t going with graduation year. Graduation year and school year are the same thing, so you still with seasonal year to base it on a calendar.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yup, school grade doesn't matter when the rules are birth year or seasonal year based.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Out of 3 teams played for and 5 teams tried out for, nobody everybody ever asked or knew what grade my kid was.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They hinted that players will be placed on the correct team. They specifically avoided anything Aug specific. However I got the feeling they would put an Aug birthday on a B team with their grade before letting them play down on a lower grade team.
I think that only happens if the parent pushes it. Besides, a B team is either RL or USYS, which might have different guidance (if any). The only Aug players who make it to an ECNL team will be those who already would play up anyway.
Yes this was strongly hinted to. Everything they said was around player ability defining which team they would be placed on. However I dont see a situation where a club would go out of their way to place an Aug birthday on a grade below them first team. They would be kept with their grade and place on the second team.
No, they will totally do it, if that Aug player is good enough. They want to win more than anything else. They'll only place that player on a higher team if they are good enough.
And they will still pull them down to the younger team for wins.
Small clubs might when they're youngers.
Big clubs wont want to deal with the hassle and will just group all players by grade.
It's actually the opposite. Big clubs want to field the best team possible under the age group rules. They would hamstring themselves against the opposition not to. You're basically saying clubs in states with Aug. 1 school cut offs would be forever advantaged. Not going to happen.
What im saying is when players attend tryouts the clhbs will first ask which grade and then ask when born. As long as the when born checks out they'll be grouped with players their grade.
Thats because in BY it doesnt matter.
It's called SY or School Year
Per US Soccer, SY stands for “seasonal year” or 8/1.
For what it’s worth, our mlsnext club now asks for grade in addition to birthdate during registration. Maybe they want this for recruiting purposes?
US Soccer is calling it Season Year to not imply anything.
Leagues call it School Year.
Its the difference of saying I drive a car vs I drive a Jeep.
Regardless of what leagues call it, school year implies that it is based on grade or that grade matters. It doesn’t. It’s 8/1-7/31. Calling it seasonal year or 8/1 is more accurate.
SY = School Year
GY = Graduating Year
These are very different things. SY does not allow parents to cheat by holding their kid back (regrade) so they're the oldest one on the team. GY allows parents to do this.
Anonymous
09/05/2025 15:34
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Agreed. They will based it off of this calendar and not your grade year. This is why they aren’t going with graduation year. Graduation year and school year are the same thing, so you still with seasonal year to base it on a calendar.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yup, school grade doesn't matter when the rules are birth year or seasonal year based.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Out of 3 teams played for and 5 teams tried out for, nobody everybody ever asked or knew what grade my kid was.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They hinted that players will be placed on the correct team. They specifically avoided anything Aug specific. However I got the feeling they would put an Aug birthday on a B team with their grade before letting them play down on a lower grade team.
I think that only happens if the parent pushes it. Besides, a B team is either RL or USYS, which might have different guidance (if any). The only Aug players who make it to an ECNL team will be those who already would play up anyway.
Yes this was strongly hinted to. Everything they said was around player ability defining which team they would be placed on. However I dont see a situation where a club would go out of their way to place an Aug birthday on a grade below them first team. They would be kept with their grade and place on the second team.
No, they will totally do it, if that Aug player is good enough. They want to win more than anything else. They'll only place that player on a higher team if they are good enough.
And they will still pull them down to the younger team for wins.
Small clubs might when they're youngers.
Big clubs wont want to deal with the hassle and will just group all players by grade.
It's actually the opposite. Big clubs want to field the best team possible under the age group rules. They would hamstring themselves against the opposition not to. You're basically saying clubs in states with Aug. 1 school cut offs would be forever advantaged. Not going to happen.
What im saying is when players attend tryouts the clhbs will first ask which grade and then ask when born. As long as the when born checks out they'll be grouped with players their grade.
Thats because in BY it doesnt matter.
It's called SY or School Year
Per US Soccer, SY stands for “seasonal year” or 8/1.
For what it’s worth, our mlsnext club now asks for grade in addition to birthdate during registration. Maybe they want this for recruiting purposes?
US Soccer is calling it Season Year to not imply anything.
Leagues call it School Year.
Its the difference of saying I drive a car vs I drive a Jeep.
Regardless of what leagues call it, school year implies that it is based on grade or that grade matters. It doesn’t. It’s 8/1-7/31. Calling it seasonal year or 8/1 is more accurate.
Anonymous
09/05/2025 15:27
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yup, school grade doesn't matter when the rules are birth year or seasonal year based.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Out of 3 teams played for and 5 teams tried out for, nobody everybody ever asked or knew what grade my kid was.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They hinted that players will be placed on the correct team. They specifically avoided anything Aug specific. However I got the feeling they would put an Aug birthday on a B team with their grade before letting them play down on a lower grade team.
I think that only happens if the parent pushes it. Besides, a B team is either RL or USYS, which might have different guidance (if any). The only Aug players who make it to an ECNL team will be those who already would play up anyway.
Yes this was strongly hinted to. Everything they said was around player ability defining which team they would be placed on. However I dont see a situation where a club would go out of their way to place an Aug birthday on a grade below them first team. They would be kept with their grade and place on the second team.
No, they will totally do it, if that Aug player is good enough. They want to win more than anything else. They'll only place that player on a higher team if they are good enough.
And they will still pull them down to the younger team for wins.
Small clubs might when they're youngers.
Big clubs wont want to deal with the hassle and will just group all players by grade.
It's actually the opposite. Big clubs want to field the best team possible under the age group rules. They would hamstring themselves against the opposition not to. You're basically saying clubs in states with Aug. 1 school cut offs would be forever advantaged. Not going to happen.
What im saying is when players attend tryouts the clhbs will first ask which grade and then ask when born. As long as the when born checks out they'll be grouped with players their grade.
Thats because in BY it doesnt matter.
It's called SY or School Year
Per US Soccer, SY stands for “seasonal year” or 8/1.
For what it’s worth, our mlsnext club now asks for grade in addition to birthdate during registration. Maybe they want this for recruiting purposes?
US Soccer is calling it Season Year to not imply anything.
Leagues call it School Year.
Its the difference of saying I drive a car vs I drive a Jeep.
Regardless of what leagues call it, school year implies that it is based on grade or that grade matters. It doesn’t. It’s 8/1-7/31. Calling it seasonal year or 8/1 is more accurate.
Anonymous
09/05/2025 15:21
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yup, school grade doesn't matter when the rules are birth year or seasonal year based.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Out of 3 teams played for and 5 teams tried out for, nobody everybody ever asked or knew what grade my kid was.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They hinted that players will be placed on the correct team. They specifically avoided anything Aug specific. However I got the feeling they would put an Aug birthday on a B team with their grade before letting them play down on a lower grade team.
I think that only happens if the parent pushes it. Besides, a B team is either RL or USYS, which might have different guidance (if any). The only Aug players who make it to an ECNL team will be those who already would play up anyway.
Yes this was strongly hinted to. Everything they said was around player ability defining which team they would be placed on. However I dont see a situation where a club would go out of their way to place an Aug birthday on a grade below them first team. They would be kept with their grade and place on the second team.
No, they will totally do it, if that Aug player is good enough. They want to win more than anything else. They'll only place that player on a higher team if they are good enough.
And they will still pull them down to the younger team for wins.
Small clubs might when they're youngers.
Big clubs wont want to deal with the hassle and will just group all players by grade.
It's actually the opposite. Big clubs want to field the best team possible under the age group rules. They would hamstring themselves against the opposition not to. You're basically saying clubs in states with Aug. 1 school cut offs would be forever advantaged. Not going to happen.
What im saying is when players attend tryouts the clhbs will first ask which grade and then ask when born. As long as the when born checks out they'll be grouped with players their grade.
Thats because in BY it doesnt matter.
It's called SY or School Year
Per US Soccer, SY stands for “seasonal year” or 8/1.
For what it’s worth, our mlsnext club now asks for grade in addition to birthdate during registration. Maybe they want this for recruiting purposes?
US Soccer is calling it Season Year to not imply anything.
Leagues call it School Year.
Its the difference of saying I drive a car vs I drive a Jeep.
Anonymous
09/05/2025 14:55
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
School year is set by each state/local area. Seasonal year is what USYS uses to define the youth soccer season and age eligibility for each age group. They can be similar but are different.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yup, school grade doesn't matter when the rules are birth year or seasonal year based.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Out of 3 teams played for and 5 teams tried out for, nobody everybody ever asked or knew what grade my kid was.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They hinted that players will be placed on the correct team. They specifically avoided anything Aug specific. However I got the feeling they would put an Aug birthday on a B team with their grade before letting them play down on a lower grade team.
I think that only happens if the parent pushes it. Besides, a B team is either RL or USYS, which might have different guidance (if any). The only Aug players who make it to an ECNL team will be those who already would play up anyway.
Yes this was strongly hinted to. Everything they said was around player ability defining which team they would be placed on. However I dont see a situation where a club would go out of their way to place an Aug birthday on a grade below them first team. They would be kept with their grade and place on the second team.
No, they will totally do it, if that Aug player is good enough. They want to win more than anything else. They'll only place that player on a higher team if they are good enough.
And they will still pull them down to the younger team for wins.
Small clubs might when they're youngers.
Big clubs wont want to deal with the hassle and will just group all players by grade.
It's actually the opposite. Big clubs want to field the best team possible under the age group rules. They would hamstring themselves against the opposition not to. You're basically saying clubs in states with Aug. 1 school cut offs would be forever advantaged. Not going to happen.
What im saying is when players attend tryouts the clhbs will first ask which grade and then ask when born. As long as the when born checks out they'll be grouped with players their grade.
Thats because in BY it doesnt matter.
It's called SY or School Year