Anonymous
03/11/2020 00:38
Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD
Anonymous wrote:I think University if Florida is done too.
Schools that have gone online so far:
UB
Indiana
Ohio state
Rice university
Harvard
Stanford
Ohio u
Syracuse
Middlebury
NYU
Rollins
Seton hall
Rutgers
Kent state
Yale
West Chester
Monmouth
Fordham
Pace
Sacred heart university
Hofstra
Skidmore
St. John’s
Columbia
Princeton
Barnard
Brown
UC Berkeley
UC San Diego
USC
University of San Francisco
San Jose state
Rowan
Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Amherst College
American University
Skidmore College
The New School
Touro College
Yeshiva University
Rowan University
Stevens Institute of Technology
University of New Haven
Vanderbilt
University of Florida
University of Nebraska
Midland university
Grinell university
University of Washington
Seattle University
Seattle Pacific University
Northeastern University Seattle Campus
Bellevue College
Bellingham Technical College
Cascadia College
Everett Community College
Lake Washington Institute of Technology
Pacific Lutheran
University of Puget Sound
Washington State University Everett
Cornell and Bucknel
Anonymous
03/11/2020 00:35
Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then even O2.
I don't understand that above. What are NIVs? What does it mean to saturate ICUs? Does it mean to run out of?
I think the problem is a numbers problem? Too many cases all at once that are severe?
Non Invasive Ventilation.
He is basically saying that they are running out of ICU space (saturated) and running out of backup options like cpap and oxygen.
Yes, it’s a numbers issue. Too many sick at the same time.
It does beg the question: What is up with Italy that didn't happen in Korea?
Part of the issue with this is that the pneumonia lasts a very long time. It isn't a quick couple days in the ICU and then to the intermediate unit.
System overwhelmed in Italy. Treatments are unavailable due to lack of facilities, equipment or personnel.
Korean hospitals are also close to being overwhelmed. There was a story days ago about someone who went to the hospital with a non-covid emergency, was turned away, went home and died.
How sad. Last year I went to an ER on a particularly busy night (a good hospital in a suburban area). For some reason all the ERs in the area were particularly busy that evening. I had to wait 12 hours before a bed opened up and I could get seen. ERs are generally busy already.
My husband waited three days last year for a cardiac ICU bed to open at Washington Hospital Center. Someone had to die for him to get it. By the time it opened, they need to take him there in a helicopter to save his life. Once there, he had the best care. But the wait nearly killed him, and that was just a normal time for hospitals. I can only imagine what would happen in this area if there was a rush on ICU beds. We drive by all these sophisticated and modern hospital complexes, but in our experience, there just isn't a lot of ICU space - from little hospitals like Sibley and Suburban, to mega hospital centers like Washington Hospital Center.
Another thing I remember. There are nurses on duty, day and night in shifts. They are assigned several ICU patients, and I could not believe the amount of information they had to absorb every eight hours. They are heroes, and overworked already. I have to say that sometimes to overworked. Some of them got really important things wrong, and we needed to be there as advocates to fill them in at the beginning of each shift.
I would be terrified to be at a hospital without at least one family member allowed in to advocate for me. How would that work with CV?
Anonymous
03/11/2020 00:22
Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/03/10/coronavirus-live-updates-us-death-toll-dow-jones-donald-trump/5002558002/
Suburban New York to enact 'containment' area, close schools; US tops 1,000 confirmed cases
ALBANY, N.Y. – Schools, temples, churches and other large gathering places within much of the New York City suburb of New Rochelle will be shut down for two weeks as the state battles to contain of one of the nation's worst coronavirus clusters.
The National Guard will be called in to help clean facilities and deliver food, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Tuesday.
Suburban New York to enact 'containment' area, close schools; US tops 1,000 confirmed cases
ALBANY, N.Y. – Schools, temples, churches and other large gathering places within much of the New York City suburb of New Rochelle will be shut down for two weeks as the state battles to contain of one of the nation's worst coronavirus clusters.
The National Guard will be called in to help clean facilities and deliver food, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Tuesday.
Anonymous
03/10/2020 22:53
Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD
It’s about time. We are so far behind. I expressed concern on Saturday over an older family member in another state and the response was, “but there are no cases there.” There are cases everywhere! We just don’t know I yet....the recent NYT article on how they basically found the Seattle cluster by accident is sobering.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/coronavirus-testing-delays.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/coronavirus-testing-delays.html
Anonymous
03/10/2020 22:53
Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then even O2.
I don't understand that above. What are NIVs? What does it mean to saturate ICUs? Does it mean to run out of?
I think the problem is a numbers problem? Too many cases all at once that are severe?
Non Invasive Ventilation.
He is basically saying that they are running out of ICU space (saturated) and running out of backup options like cpap and oxygen.
Yes, it’s a numbers issue. Too many sick at the same time.
It does beg the question: What is up with Italy that didn't happen in Korea?
Part of the issue with this is that the pneumonia lasts a very long time. It isn't a quick couple days in the ICU and then to the intermediate unit.
System overwhelmed in Italy. Treatments are unavailable due to lack of facilities, equipment or personnel.
Korean hospitals are also close to being overwhelmed. There was a story days ago about someone who went to the hospital with a non-covid emergency, was turned away, went home and died.
How sad. Last year I went to an ER on a particularly busy night (a good hospital in a suburban area). For some reason all the ERs in the area were particularly busy that evening. I had to wait 12 hours before a bed opened up and I could get seen. ERs are generally busy already.
On a busy Saturday night at a hospital in DC, they sent us home with our 2-year-old who had a broken leg without even taking an X-ray because they were too busy to see us.
Anonymous
03/10/2020 22:50
Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:China is sending Italy medical equipment and aid.
In a call between the two foreign ministers, China agreed to supply Italy with 1,000 ventillators and 2 million masks. Additionally, they are donating (!) them 100k respirators, 20k protective suits, and 50k test kits as part of "massive aid" package.
https://twitter.com/VKJudit/status/1237448125800988675?s=20
That's good of them, since they supplied them with something else earlier...
Actually they have very close business ties and it makes sense, from that perspective.
This is what happens when we let 3M produce masks in China. They aren’t allowing export to America.
Anonymous
03/10/2020 22:41
Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD
I think University if Florida is done too.
Anonymous
03/10/2020 22:40
Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm the flu guy yall are pathetic
come back when this thing is killing over 10,000 people
50,000 people die of the flu every year and people don't panic
Yeah, we're just going to sit and wait. That's the strategy? And then what are you going to do?
not panic
My kid's school remains open. 35000 students. Faculty. Administrative staff. On and On.
But guess what? Nothing will happen --- until it does
I think Univ of Florida is packing it up too.
Brilliant insight.
The UW is the first university and might be only one so far that has moved to online classes. They are on a quarterly schedule so final exams are on-line also. There probably will be more universities that choose to do this in the next few weeks.
Wrong.
Harvard
MIT
Emory
Amherst College
That's to name a few....
Almost all are private. Figures.
Duke University just sent out a cancellation announcement for all classes. They are also asking students to vacate the dorms.
Anonymous
03/10/2020 22:25
Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm the flu guy yall are pathetic
come back when this thing is killing over 10,000 people
50,000 people die of the flu every year and people don't panic
Yeah, we're just going to sit and wait. That's the strategy? And then what are you going to do?
not panic
My kid's school remains open. 35000 students. Faculty. Administrative staff. On and On.
But guess what? Nothing will happen --- until it does
Brilliant insight.
The UW is the first university and might be only one so far that has moved to online classes. They are on a quarterly schedule so final exams are on-line also. There probably will be more universities that choose to do this in the next few weeks.
Wrong.
Harvard
MIT
Emory
Amherst College
That's to name a few....
Almost all are private. Figures.
Duke University just sent out a cancellation announcement for all classes. They are also asking students to vacate the dorms.
Anonymous
03/10/2020 22:12
Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD
Anonymous wrote:China is sending Italy medical equipment and aid.
In a call between the two foreign ministers, China agreed to supply Italy with 1,000 ventillators and 2 million masks. Additionally, they are donating (!) them 100k respirators, 20k protective suits, and 50k test kits as part of "massive aid" package.
https://twitter.com/VKJudit/status/1237448125800988675?s=20
That’s awesome. I truly hope the world works together through this. I think the medical community could really show its strength here.
Anonymous
03/10/2020 22:12
Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD
Anonymous wrote:China is sending Italy medical equipment and aid.
In a call between the two foreign ministers, China agreed to supply Italy with 1,000 ventillators and 2 million masks. Additionally, they are donating (!) them 100k respirators, 20k protective suits, and 50k test kits as part of "massive aid" package.
https://twitter.com/VKJudit/status/1237448125800988675?s=20
That's good of them, since they supplied them with something else earlier...
Actually they have very close business ties and it makes sense, from that perspective.
Anonymous
03/10/2020 22:12
Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD
Anonymous wrote:China is sending Italy medical equipment and aid.
In a call between the two foreign ministers, China agreed to supply Italy with 1,000 ventillators and 2 million masks. Additionally, they are donating (!) them 100k respirators, 20k protective suits, and 50k test kits as part of "massive aid" package.
https://twitter.com/VKJudit/status/1237448125800988675?s=20
WOW
Anonymous
03/10/2020 22:11
Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD
China is sending Italy medical equipment and aid.
https://twitter.com/VKJudit/status/1237448125800988675?s=20
In a call between the two foreign ministers, China agreed to supply Italy with 1,000 ventillators and 2 million masks. Additionally, they are donating (!) them 100k respirators, 20k protective suits, and 50k test kits as part of "massive aid" package.
https://twitter.com/VKJudit/status/1237448125800988675?s=20
Anonymous
03/10/2020 22:09
Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then even O2.
I don't understand that above. What are NIVs? What does it mean to saturate ICUs? Does it mean to run out of?
I think the problem is a numbers problem? Too many cases all at once that are severe?
Non Invasive Ventilation.
He is basically saying that they are running out of ICU space (saturated) and running out of backup options like cpap and oxygen.
Yes, it’s a numbers issue. Too many sick at the same time.
This is exactly the problem. Our country is so bad it doesn’t even have test kits or masks for people. They will never have enough oxygen or ventilators for people.
Which countries have enough oxygen and ventilators?
Anonymous
03/10/2020 21:59
Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then even O2.
I don't understand that above. What are NIVs? What does it mean to saturate ICUs? Does it mean to run out of?
I think the problem is a numbers problem? Too many cases all at once that are severe?
Non Invasive Ventilation.
He is basically saying that they are running out of ICU space (saturated) and running out of backup options like cpap and oxygen.
Yes, it’s a numbers issue. Too many sick at the same time.
This is exactly the problem. Our country is so bad it doesn’t even have test kits or masks for people. They will never have enough oxygen or ventilators for people.