Anonymous
Post 06/16/2016 23:36     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with you people who can't deal with someone with a differing opinion? Running to tattle to Jeff. Seriously?

I think this thread is very important. The death of this child is horrible. If nothing else, I hope that it makes parents more aware of the waters in Florida and for them to not let their guard down, no matter where they're traveling.


I think the fact a little boy died is going to send the message that people need to be more cautious when traveling. The posts saying it's all the fault of the parents and that they are entitled, etc. are not providing any sort of benefit to society.


Saying something is the fault of the parents (I believe they are partly responsible) does not mean we are not sorry for their loss and aren't saddened by the little boy's death.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2016 23:35     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with you people who can't deal with someone with a differing opinion? Running to tattle to Jeff. Seriously?

I think this thread is very important. The death of this child is horrible. If nothing else, I hope that it makes parents more aware of the waters in Florida and for them to not let their guard down, no matter where they're traveling.


I think the fact a little boy died is going to send the message that people need to be more cautious when traveling. The posts saying it's all the fault of the parents and that they are entitled, etc. are not providing any sort of benefit to society.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2016 23:33     Subject: Re:2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG

I can't believe 100+ pages of blaming parents for this?

Where TF is Jeff Steele? I understand clicks will put his own kids through college, but a little bit of empathy is in order here.

What a disgusting thread.


I'm the OP of this thread. I rarely am an OP, but I started it because I'm so sad, shocked, heartbroken (there aren't even words to describe) about this tragedy. I wish I could process it, but it is beyond horrifying. Maybe it's because I grew up near Disney and have such happy childhood memories (and now have a toddler boy of my own) that this little boy's death really hit me.

I should have foreseen that this would devolve into a blame the parents debate. Apparently I gave DCUM too much credit and thought that other parents would be sympathetic. Some of the nasty responses on here just make me even more sad.


I don't blame the parents. I think Disney is getting a raw deal also. I went to Polynesian resort in 1973. Shortly after it opened. Disney rented boats to anyone to go on that lake. I dropped of my parent on one of the islands and then picked them back up. People had no fears of anything in the water then. I vaguely remember a pool right on the beach and wandering around the beach at night after a lua dinner.

Still Disney should pay and pay big time. Someone in their companies was responsible for safety. Someone fell down on the job

Probably because they started hiring Guest workers to do US workers job. They deserve to pay.

https://jonathanturley.org/2016/02/26/the-happiest-place-on-earth-disney-outsources-more-jobs-to-foreign-workers-while-asking-existing-workers-to-donate-part-of-their-wages-to-support-lobbyists/
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2016 23:33     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
What is wrong with you people who can't deal with someone with a differing opinion? Running to tattle to Jeff. Seriously?

I think this thread is very important. The death of this child is horrible. If nothing else, I hope that it makes parents more aware of the waters in Florida and for them to not let their guard down, no matter where they're traveling.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2016 23:32     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
OP again -- also, when I posted this, no facts were known about how the incident happened. The news articles about the wading, signs, etc. didn't come out until the next morning. I just sort of assumed that something so universally awful could not possibly be divisive.

I now feel sad that I created something that has shown such vitriol in people that the parents could possibly read someday, but I imagine if I hadn't posted it someone else would have.

My heart just aches for this family. Perhaps it is time for this thread to be locked and/or deleted?
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2016 23:30     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not the PP but maybe because it says "on the beach" at the bottom


And a couple exits down it says "Welcome to Hogwarts" at Universal. You get my drift?


Please go away. You are truly awful.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2016 23:29     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not the PP but maybe because it says "on the beach" at the bottom


And a couple exits down it says "Welcome to Hogwarts" at Universal. You get my drift?


Actually on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday at 7PM the calendar lists "Campfire and Marshmallows on the beach."

Perhaps those arguing whether or not these are beaches, could let Disney know they are spreading misinformation.

It's apparently a huge deal.


Are we talking about the same place? Pretty sure resorts exaggerate locale. Orlando is filled with resorts and resort style dining. Rainforest Cafe isn't really a rainforest nor a cafe'?! Get out of town!
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2016 23:27     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:My heart breaks for the parents, the surviving child, and their sweet little boy. I can't imagine what they are going through now.


Or what they will go through for years to come.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2016 23:27     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not the PP but maybe because it says "on the beach" at the bottom


And a couple exits down it says "Welcome to Hogwarts" at Universal. You get my drift?


Actually on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday at 7PM the calendar lists "Campfire and Marshmallows on the beach."

Perhaps those arguing whether or not these are beaches, could let Disney know they are spreading misinformation.

It's apparently a huge deal.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2016 23:26     Subject: Re:2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Sometimes, the fault lies with no one and we just have to accept that IMO.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2016 23:22     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Not the PP but maybe because it says "on the beach" at the bottom


And a couple exits down it says "Welcome to Hogwarts" at Universal. You get my drift?
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2016 23:21     Subject: Re:2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:OMG

I can't believe 100+ pages of blaming parents for this?

Where TF is Jeff Steele? I understand clicks will put his own kids through college, but a little bit of empathy is in order here.

What a disgusting thread.


I'm the OP of this thread. I rarely am an OP, but I started it because I'm so sad, shocked, heartbroken (there aren't even words to describe) about this tragedy. I wish I could process it, but it is beyond horrifying. Maybe it's because I grew up near Disney and have such happy childhood memories (and now have a toddler boy of my own) that this little boy's death really hit me.

I should have foreseen that this would devolve into a blame the parents debate. Apparently I gave DCUM too much credit and thought that other parents would be sympathetic. Some of the nasty responses on here just make me even more sad.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2016 23:21     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
My heart breaks for the parents, the surviving child, and their sweet little boy. I can't imagine what they are going through now.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2016 23:21     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Haha! See? Caught ya. That sign was taken years ago when they were building the grand Floridian villas. That drop off isn't there and it's a beach now. You haven't been and have no idea what you're talking about.


Great. Except- it's NOT a beach! It wasn't them and still isn't, that's right, a motha effin' beach. It's a crusty green lagoon people. Probably filled with green algae and fertilizer run-off from magically manicured lawns in the shape of Mickey.


Except Disney calls it a beach.

They don't call it a sandy swamp. Or an alligator habitat. Or even a murky dirty place where scary Florida creatures reside.

They call it a beach. They call all of those white sand areas beaches. Heck, they even named one of their upscale resorts the Beach Club Villa.

And surprise! And guess what the guests do at the beach at the Beachclub Villa? Surprise!! They walk along the water and let their kids play and wade in the shallows.


They are called beaches at Disney. Here are some links to activities provided by Disney at the resort where people are encouraged to go to the beach:
http://www.themouseforless.com/tripplanning/resorts/wdw/pdf/GrandCalendar.pdf

The one we went to they even gave the kids buckets and shovels for the beach
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2016 23:20     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Not the PP but maybe because it says "on the beach" at the bottom


But is it? Noooo