According to NBC, his parents are now saying he has been detained in an “irregular” way without access to legal council or a translator.

It looks like both parties were drinking all night long until 4am, both puked right outside the bar around the same time and neither could really stand or walk. I also read they barely knew each other, like maybe for an hour (if that) and met at that bar that night in the AM hours.

Both seemed black out, pi$$ poor drunk. I don’t think he could even know which way was up much less get it u% or assault anything. Like a person who wants to fight, punches the air and falls flat on their face.

She drowned and floated away. She was probably so drunk, she may have swallowed too much water, started getting sick again, fell down, was washed out. The fault IMO lies with the resort. Why is a bar open at 5am serving alcohol? or 4am? Why are people throwing up in the bar and then still being served?!

Think crazy stuff can’t happen in the US? What about that girl at LSU? Drunk out of her mind, left with people she didn’t know, assaulted in a car, got out and run over by another car.

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Anonymous wrote:The new video showing her puking right before she leaves for the beach is sad. And new video showing her going to beach from different angle. She could barely stand. Where the heck where her friends. And I don't think she was in a position to consent to anything he wanted to do. There is a line there and I think it was crossed.

They both puked then proceeded to go the beach, go in the water, and kiss? Good lord. I personally think he was too drunk to assault, jmo. He was on the verge of passing out, which he did shortly after. Doesn't sound like either one was functional.

Now that we know how drunk she was, I do think her friends should have shepherded her back to the hotel. I don't remember any of my friends puking then proceeding to socialize after. It was straight home to bed at that point!

How is no one discussing how did the bar allow these people to get so drunk?

Unusual circumstances, I think, with the power outage. Too hot in the rooms so they amused themselves by drinking at the bar for many hours.

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Anonymous wrote:The new video showing her puking right before she leaves for the beach is sad. And new video showing her going to beach from different angle. She could barely stand. Where the heck where her friends. And I don't think she was in a position to consent to anything he wanted to do. There is a line there and I think it was crossed.

They both puked then proceeded to go the beach, go in the water, and kiss? Good lord. I personally think he was too drunk to assault, jmo. He was on the verge of passing out, which he did shortly after. Doesn't sound like either one was functional.

Now that we know how drunk she was, I do think her friends should have shepherded her back to the hotel. I don't remember any of my friends puking then proceeding to socialize after. It was straight home to bed at that point!

How is no one discussing how did the bar allow these people to get so drunk?

The whole point of spring break vacations at these places is to have unlimited low quality booze on the beach. That is why people go to these places. That is their idea of fun.

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Anonymous wrote:The new video showing her puking right before she leaves for the beach is sad. And new video showing her going to beach from different angle. She could barely stand. Where the heck where her friends. And I don't think she was in a position to consent to anything he wanted to do. There is a line there and I think it was crossed.

They both puked then proceeded to go the beach, go in the water, and kiss? Good lord. I personally think he was too drunk to assault, jmo. He was on the verge of passing out, which he did shortly after. Doesn't sound like either one was functional.

Now that we know how drunk she was, I do think her friends should have shepherded her back to the hotel. I don't remember any of my friends puking then proceeding to socialize after. It was straight home to bed at that point!

How is no one discussing how did the bar allow these people to get so drunk?

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Anonymous wrote:I would not allow my college age student to go in such a trip

A college student is an adult, so you have no say. However, you should raise kids who are smart enough to know to go on a spring break trip or drink and be out at 4 am.

At 20 most upper middle class kids are fully on parental support. You absolutely have a say. Please.

DP. Some posters are from latch key era. And also went independent financially by what the great US of A says is adulthood - that magic date when "kid" turns into "adult." Crazy.

Anonymous wrote:They could have been thinking that she is BETTER after that. Out of her system.

That's not how it works. Vomiting indicates serious overconsumption of alcohol. You're not magically better because you throw up. You're still really, really drunk. The alcohol remains in the bloodstream and needs to be processed by the liver, which takes time. You've just expelled some of the toxins so you feel less sick.

Given that they were both videotaped vomiting, neither one was functional. I'm surprised anyone can think he was functional enough to be some dastardly mastermind in that state.

Anonymous wrote:This board seems oddly tilted towards he must be innocent, more so than other sites. Curious if it’s a boy mom thing or a few trolls. As a mom of girls, waiting until LE says he had nothing to do with it. Even if he did not start the trek to the beach intending to harm her, when that drunk and probably twice her weight, could have gone south if she rebuffed him. Time may tell.

On the path she seemed to be pulling away from him.

Many posts here and many questions asked. The posts more of a 'there are various possibilities' among the armchair detectives. The demographics of posters here could be different than other sites but we don't know which other sites you are talking about.

Anonymous wrote:Opinions stated as definitive facts is ridiculous.

Those who think zero chance a woman was drugged may want to Google a recent case in France, among others.

And alcohol alone is the most common date rape drug.

It is notable that she was so much more impaired.

Stop. If she drank herself to the point of oblivion, that's not a "date rape drug." If it was purely drinking, girlfriend did that to herself. If the man is as impaired as she is, he is not raping her. It's two people using bad judgement.

Again, we need testimony from the bar and ideally footage.

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Anonymous wrote:The new video showing her puking right before she leaves for the beach is sad. And new video showing her going to beach from different angle. She could barely stand. Where the heck where her friends. And I don't think she was in a position to consent to anything he wanted to do. There is a line there and I think it was crossed.

Do you know the source of that new video? Was it another angle from resort security, or someone's phone or a stranger's device?

Her friends were there in the other video where they were walking to beach from hotel. As of now, no reports made public about what her friends knew of her condition at that moment or before leaving hotel. If she vomited then, yea, they could have taken her back to her room. But we don't know what conversations and consents took place before and on that walk from hotel to beach.

I wish she had used better judgement. I wish the friends had been actual friends and used better judgement. I wish the boys had used better judgement, and especially wish they knew better than to hang out with drunk girls unsupervised. I wish we had video from the bar.

Without any evidence; however, the young man is innocent unless something can actually prove his guilt.

They could have been thinking that she is BETTER after that. Out of her system.

Anonymous wrote:The new video showing her puking right before she leaves for the beach is sad. And new video showing her going to beach from different angle. She could barely stand. Where the heck where her friends. And I don't think she was in a position to consent to anything he wanted to do. There is a line there and I think it was crossed.

Do you know the source of that new video? Was it another angle from resort security, or someone's phone or a stranger's device?

Her friends were there in the other video where they were walking to beach from hotel. As of now, no reports made public about what her friends knew of her condition at that moment or before leaving hotel. If she vomited then, yea, they could have taken her back to her room. But we don't know what conversations and consents took place before and on that walk from hotel to beach.

Anonymous wrote:The new video showing her puking right before she leaves for the beach is sad. And new video showing her going to beach from different angle. She could barely stand. Where the heck where her friends. And I don't think she was in a position to consent to anything he wanted to do. There is a line there and I think it was crossed.

They are afraid of their immigration status

This board seems oddly tilted towards he must be innocent, more so than other sites. Curious if it’s a boy mom thing or a few trolls. As a mom of girls, waiting until LE says he had nothing to do with it. Even if he did not start the trek to the beach intending to harm her, when that drunk and probably twice her weight, could have gone south if she rebuffed him. Time may tell.

On the path she seemed to be pulling away from him.

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When you are so drunk that you are puking your guts out, you really aren't in any shape to pull off a kidnapping heist.

He was not that drunk, girl was drunk and almost falling but he was holding her with one arm and taking pictures/video with other arm.

He used translator in his initial interrogation but he has seen news about what inconsistent stories he told in the media coverage. And now a week later he comes up with new information that he was a hero saving her. Really?

Why do you keep nannering on about him holding a phone? He was drunk enough to puke all over the beach (fact). Have you ever been puke-drunk? That's an advanced stage of intoxication.

I thought that too at first. He’s not holding up a phone. It’s a plastic cup.

Yes, in other images the cup is clearly visible.

She was stumbling far more than anyone else, was she drugged?

Nope. Just $hit faced drunk.

DP. How do you know she wasn't?

Possible to be drunk and also drugged. No way to know w/o a body and tox screen.