Anonymous
Post 10/21/2021 15:53     Subject: Re:Bad Art Friend
Anonymous wrote:The amazing kidneygate account found a series of Tweets by Helen Rosner where she accused an app that stripped ads from recipe websites as "stealing" from creators. As background, recipes are generally not considered to be copyrightable. So, she's basically objecting to the app on moral grounds, not on any legal grounds.

But she defends Larson? In Rosner's upside-down world, it is evil to make an app that strips annoying ads from a webpage with un-copyrightable recipes but stealing someone's letter wholesale and profiting from it is totally fine? Is this the position of the New Yorker too?




Yeah the fact this person is a New Yorker editor is incredibly depressing

— PP who is also depressed about the NYT

— I do have other things in my life I don’t find depressing just in case this is starting to seem like cause for alarm for me lol
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2021 15:04     Subject: Re:Bad Art Friend
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm taking a creative writing class right now through an institution like GrubStreet and I find I am wondering who the instructors are mocking outside of class.


I've taught creative writing, and I've never engaged in mocking my students. Sonya's Grub Street friends are highly unethical.


That is a relief. I was sad to realize I was suspicious of the teacher, who has done literally nothing to deserve it except be a creative writing teacher two weeks after Bad Art Friend dropped. It would never have occurred to me to think suspiciously of teachers before the past two weeks.

I don't know why anyone would take a class at Grub Street again.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2021 13:29     Subject: Re:Bad Art Friend
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dan Nguyen weighs in on the new Kolker article:



Even the photograph favors Larson over Dorland. Anyone can be made to look bad or good in a photograph.


FWIW, I think both photos are flattering. Their expressions are a bit inscrutable, allowing people to read into them what they want.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2021 13:27     Subject: Re:Bad Art Friend
Anonymous wrote:I'm taking a creative writing class right now through an institution like GrubStreet and I find I am wondering who the instructors are mocking outside of class.


I've taught creative writing, and I've never engaged in mocking my students. Sonya's Grub Street friends are highly unethical.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2021 12:59     Subject: Re:Bad Art Friend
Anonymous wrote:Dan Nguyen weighs in on the new Kolker article:



Even the photograph favors Larson over Dorland. Anyone can be made to look bad or good in a photograph.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2021 12:58     Subject: Bad Art Friend
Anonymous wrote:The NYT got exactly what they wanted. More publicity.

Do they report their subscriber numbers and changes to those numbers somewhere?
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2021 12:41     Subject: Bad Art Friend
The NYT got exactly what they wanted. More publicity.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2021 12:40     Subject: Bad Art Friend
I have posted a lot of comments on NYT. You can’t say anything “mean”. Or call “names” like sexist etc. They won’t print it.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2021 12:22     Subject: Re:Bad Art Friend
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kolker's followup just demonstrates what a inveterate sexist he is. I'm never going to read anything of his again.


Same. NYT is good for crossword and cooking at this point


I am out. I hit "cancel subscription" and am now in some kind of chat waiting room to chat with an "advocate".


You don't have to chat. The other option is doing it thru your account or something like that. It does allow you to explain why you are cancelling and the process only takes a minute. Cancel waiting to chat.


Cancel on your card. It’s impossible to get through. Wonder why?
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2021 12:21     Subject: Re:Bad Art Friend
Anonymous wrote:The kidneygate Twitter account linked to this article, which is really good:

https://www.bryndonovan.com/2021/10/20/sonya-larson-celeste-ng_and-the-disregard-for-the-ill-and-the-dying/

Thanks for sharing. I’ve read a million updates on this but I like hearing from other donors.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2021 12:20     Subject: Re:Bad Art Friend
Anonymous wrote:The kidneygate Twitter account linked to this article, which is really good:

https://www.bryndonovan.com/2021/10/20/sonya-larson-celeste-ng_and-the-disregard-for-the-ill-and-the-dying/


That was really good. Thank you for sharing.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2021 12:18     Subject: Re:Bad Art Friend
Dan Nguyen weighs in on the new Kolker article:

Anonymous
Post 10/21/2021 11:55     Subject: Re:Bad Art Friend
The amazing kidneygate account found a series of Tweets by Helen Rosner where she accused an app that stripped ads from recipe websites as "stealing" from creators. As background, recipes are generally not considered to be copyrightable. So, she's basically objecting to the app on moral grounds, not on any legal grounds.

But she defends Larson? In Rosner's upside-down world, it is evil to make an app that strips annoying ads from a webpage with un-copyrightable recipes but stealing someone's letter wholesale and profiting from it is totally fine? Is this the position of the New Yorker too?

Anonymous
Post 10/21/2021 11:06     Subject: Bad Art Friend
The NYT directed me to share my concerns in their Reader Center:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/15/homepage/contact-newsroom.html
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2021 11:03     Subject: Re:Bad Art Friend
The kidneygate Twitter account linked to this article, which is really good:

https://www.bryndonovan.com/2021/10/20/sonya-larson-celeste-ng_and-the-disregard-for-the-ill-and-the-dying/