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Post 08/06/2024 22:04     Subject: She picked Tim

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Anonymous wrote:The people trying to make something out of Shapiro really don’t under the Jewish community. I and every Jew i know is relieved Harris didn’t pick Shapiro. We all understood the anti-Semitic barrage the Trump campaign was preparing to launch. It was obvious they thought stoking anti-Semitic sentiment would win them Michigan. We are all very happy those attacks aren’t going to happen now.


OMG, now I’ve heard everything. Shapiro wasn’t chosen *because of the massive amount of antisemites ON THE LEFT* who would have caused absolute havoc rioting at the DNC (and elsewhere). Progressives have been harassing Jews and anyone pro-Israel for months now. Harris knew that choosing a pro-Israel Jew as her running mate would lose the “progressive” vote. In short, she totally appeased the antisemites in YOUR party.

But how typical that you would conjure up fantasies of Republicans engaging in an antisemitic barrage. We’ve all seen with our own eyes the pro-Hamas antisemites on the left. Keep up that gaslighting.


Shapiro wasn't chosen because he pulled himself out of consideration. Let's just stop with the nonsense.


He wasn’t chosen because Democrats, Socialists, Communists, or whatever they’re calling themselves today hate Jews.


The various Jewish Senators and Congressmen, Governors and the second Gentlemen would all disagree.


Admit it, we’ve reached our Jewish ceiling.


Remind me which of those Jewish governors, senators, and congressmen are republicans?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_politicians


So 0 governors, 0 senators, and 2 representatives. Seems like republicans have a Jewish problem.
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Post 08/06/2024 22:04     Subject: Re:She picked Tim

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Anonymous wrote:Voting for a president isn’t like giving a Valentine- you don’t need to love them- it’s a chess move for a better country.


Democrats fall in love. Well, I just fell in love, folks. I think there is a lot of excitement and it ain't for TFG whining on Truth Social for Biden to come back.


Glad you vote with your heart and not your head. Let us know how that works out for you.


I’ve said that many times here. Dems vote based on emotion. Republicans do not.


The GOP is all fear and anger - those are emotions. Your criticism is not remotely original, and it’s both outdated and incorrect.


Wow, so.much.projection. Democrats have been insisting that Trump will “end democracy!!” The threads on this forum are beyond fear-mongering and looney rage. They are truly unhinged.
DP



The Harris Walz campaign is a positive one and talking policy, not retribution.


Look, I’m def in the tank for Walz, but…what policy? Where are they talking about it?


They touched on key policy goals in their speeches in Philadelphia.


List them.
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Post 08/06/2024 22:03     Subject: Re:She picked Tim

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Anonymous wrote:Voting for a president isn’t like giving a Valentine- you don’t need to love them- it’s a chess move for a better country.


Democrats fall in love. Well, I just fell in love, folks. I think there is a lot of excitement and it ain't for TFG whining on Truth Social for Biden to come back.


Glad you vote with your heart and not your head. Let us know how that works out for you.


I’ve said that many times here. Dems vote based on emotion. Republicans do not.


The GOP is all fear and anger - those are emotions. Your criticism is not remotely original, and it’s both outdated and incorrect.


Wow, so.much.projection. Democrats have been insisting that Trump will “end democracy!!” The threads on this forum are beyond fear-mongering and looney rage. They are truly unhinged.
DP



The Harris Walz campaign is a positive one and talking policy, not retribution.


Look, I’m def in the tank for Walz, but…what policy? Where are they talking about it?


ACA, national reproductive rights, and John Lewis Voting Rights are three policies I heard them discuss.
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Post 08/06/2024 22:02     Subject: Re:She picked Tim

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Anonymous wrote:Voting for a president isn’t like giving a Valentine- you don’t need to love them- it’s a chess move for a better country.


Democrats fall in love. Well, I just fell in love, folks. I think there is a lot of excitement and it ain't for TFG whining on Truth Social for Biden to come back.


Glad you vote with your heart and not your head. Let us know how that works out for you.


I’ve said that many times here. Dems vote based on emotion. Republicans do not.


The GOP is all fear and anger - those are emotions. Your criticism is not remotely original, and it’s both outdated and incorrect.


Wow, so.much.projection. Democrats have been insisting that Trump will “end democracy!!” The threads on this forum are beyond fear-mongering and looney rage. They are truly unhinged.
DP



The Harris Walz campaign is a positive one and talking policy, not retribution.


Look, I’m def in the tank for Walz, but…what policy? Where are they talking about it?


They touched on key policy goals in their speeches in Philadelphia.
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Post 08/06/2024 21:59     Subject: She picked Tim

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans call every Democrat the most lefty socialist Marxist communist ever! It’s meaningless noise.


Not true. Prime example: Kelly

Counterpoint


I do not and never will follow politics or any news on Twitter - seriously. That's what's wrong with society today.

Please go here for a more accurate representation of where Kelly falls on the ideology chart:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/mark_kelly/456794

The PP, when another PP said that Republicans call every Democrat socialist, said no, Republicans don’t call Mark Kelly a socialist. The Twitter post proves that yes, they do call Mark Kelly a socialist. Govtrack is useful but not for refuting what the PP posted.
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Post 08/06/2024 21:58     Subject: Re:She picked Tim

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Anonymous wrote:Voting for a president isn’t like giving a Valentine- you don’t need to love them- it’s a chess move for a better country.


Democrats fall in love. Well, I just fell in love, folks. I think there is a lot of excitement and it ain't for TFG whining on Truth Social for Biden to come back.


Glad you vote with your heart and not your head. Let us know how that works out for you.


I’ve said that many times here. Dems vote based on emotion. Republicans do not.


The GOP is all fear and anger - those are emotions. Your criticism is not remotely original, and it’s both outdated and incorrect.


Wow, so.much.projection. Democrats have been insisting that Trump will “end democracy!!” The threads on this forum are beyond fear-mongering and looney rage. They are truly unhinged.
DP



The Harris Walz campaign is a positive one and talking policy, not retribution.


They actually haven't talked policy at all.

They have talked hope and change and the other guys are weird let's dance to some music and create a meme moment.
I would love to actually here them talk policy.
I think most voters would too.
But hope and change and a lot of flare worked once. I suppose it could work again


They talked policy this evening. Did you watch the speech?


Yes. That's not policy my friend


I heard policy too. Maybe you stepped away and were feeding your gerbil or getting Cheetos or something during that part.
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2024 21:58     Subject: Re:She picked Tim

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Anonymous wrote:Voting for a president isn’t like giving a Valentine- you don’t need to love them- it’s a chess move for a better country.


Democrats fall in love. Well, I just fell in love, folks. I think there is a lot of excitement and it ain't for TFG whining on Truth Social for Biden to come back.


Glad you vote with your heart and not your head. Let us know how that works out for you.


I’ve said that many times here. Dems vote based on emotion. Republicans do not.


The GOP is all fear and anger - those are emotions. Your criticism is not remotely original, and it’s both outdated and incorrect.


Wow, so.much.projection. Democrats have been insisting that Trump will “end democracy!!” The threads on this forum are beyond fear-mongering and looney rage. They are truly unhinged.
DP



The Harris Walz campaign is a positive one and talking policy, not retribution.


Look, I’m def in the tank for Walz, but…what policy? Where are they talking about it?
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2024 21:57     Subject: She picked Tim

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Anonymous wrote:Tim seems like a great guy to run a camping goods store, but the country? Not too sure


THIS ^^


I disagree. He’s running a state.

Even if he’s not, he’s better than these financier class vampires who exist to suck wealth out of regular people. And who also, by the way, couldn’t be trusted to run a camping goods store.


He let hundreds of businesses burn to the ground. He’s not welcome in my store.


He is the one who called in the national guard.

And you are mad about right wing agitators torching our cities. I am too.


I mean, wasn’t he the only one that COULD call the guard?
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Post 08/06/2024 21:53     Subject: She picked Tim

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans call every Democrat the most lefty socialist Marxist communist ever! It’s meaningless noise.


Not true. Prime example: Kelly

Counterpoint


I do not and never will follow politics or any news on Twitter - seriously. That's what's wrong with society today.

Please go here for a more accurate representation of where Kelly falls on the ideology chart:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/mark_kelly/456794
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Post 08/06/2024 21:53     Subject: Re:She picked Tim

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Anonymous wrote:democratic socialism sounds good to me.

Public ownership (local, state or federal) of the things people need to have a good life (utilities, mass transportation, libraries, highways, colleges, schools, hospitals, postal service, defense)

Democratic means we vote for the people in charge of our government.


Enjoy your socialism.


I do!

I pay taxes. My kids went to public school k-12, state school 4 years. We use the post office, public transportation (wish it were better supported), libraries, the interstate. The post office delivers our mail; our publicly funded firefighters come around and do fire alarm inspections and would come to our aid with no charge if we have a fire... it goes on and on!



Me too! I would also add that I like having pharmaceuticals vetted for safety and effectiveness. Having air traffic controllers ensuring safety in the skies. I appreciate our military and the government workers who take care of social security and those who pay attention to the quality of our air and water and food safety.

Anonymous
Post 08/06/2024 21:53     Subject: Re:She picked Tim

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Anonymous wrote:Voting for a president isn’t like giving a Valentine- you don’t need to love them- it’s a chess move for a better country.


Democrats fall in love. Well, I just fell in love, folks. I think there is a lot of excitement and it ain't for TFG whining on Truth Social for Biden to come back.


Glad you vote with your heart and not your head. Let us know how that works out for you.


I’ve said that many times here. Dems vote based on emotion. Republicans do not.


The GOP is all fear and anger - those are emotions. Your criticism is not remotely original, and it’s both outdated and incorrect.


Wow, so.much.projection. Democrats have been insisting that Trump will “end democracy!!” The threads on this forum are beyond fear-mongering and looney rage. They are truly unhinged.
DP


Anyone who’s taken European history understands the difference. You’re either trolling, young, or not very educated.
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Post 08/06/2024 21:51     Subject: She picked Tim

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Full blown. It's all trans in bathrooms and George Floyd/riots! That's all they got. Wait until they start hearing him speak! This is going to be delicious.


The riots and overall breakdown of law and order in our cities is where the Democrats are most vulnerable. Expect to hear about Kamala’s San Francisco and Tim’s Minneapolis nonstop for the next three months.


Did January 6th not happen? I don't understand how GOP are so concerned about some riots and not others. It's weird.


Bingo


All riots should be equally disdained regardless of the issue behind it because more often than not it's some nut job extremist thugs who don't actually care about the issue behind it....but as such should also be equally prosecuted and equally thought of as wrong regardless of the issue. It's never ok to destroy property regardless of the issue or topic period.


I agree. I read an article about The riots in MN and poor reaction time. Walz was very honest about it all and how it was not handled well. Now contrast that with Trump who still thinks January 6th was a good thing.


True - but I also know many Dems who think the BLM riots were a good thing too.


Dems supported the peaceful protests and criticized where the looting and property damage took place.


Well I'll rephrase,"I have personally spoken to more than one Dem who feels the looting and property damage was justified". But we are going off-topic now. Back to Tim Walz....honestly...I don't care how he reacted to the BLM riots because it was an extremely difficult time. I also don't care about anything he did or didn't do 20 yrs ago. I do care about his political views and social ideology which are too progressive for my taste. Not saying it's going to make me vote for Trump but I am now strongly considering staying home...and this is coming from someone who was pushing their DD to go out and vote because of the importance of voting - DD doesn't care to vote this year either. I can see her point of view.


What ideology do you find too progressive?


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Education: In favor of reduced/free college education for the trades -- in fact...take some of the illegal immigrants who have been here for over 10-15+ yrs (because realistically you can't deport them all) and educate them in the trades. Fix our education system and stop focusing on stupid issues that don't belong in schools. Teach tolerance and respect as a two-way street. Note: I actually like how Walz has approached education in MN -- except for teaching gender ideology in schools. Many parents voice their concerns: https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/minnesota-parents-clash-over-teachers-discussing-gender-identity-with-students-stay-in-your-lane-osseo-area-schools-isd-279-lgbtqia-history-and-culture-resolution-lgbt-transgender and […]


You cite a ton of right wing talking points and misrepresentations (no one takes you seriously when your argument is a strawman), but I think you should have read the article you posted before spouting off about “teaching gender ideology” and from a “news” outlet in Austin, TX owned by Sinclair. But even they were able to sneak in the fact that it’s not teaching gender ideology but respecting all students, including the ones who were being bullied for being gay. So you want gay kids to get bullied? That’s essentially what you said.

And to try to pull some grapes out of your cornucopia of misled: that was an Osseo, MN policy, not a state wide one. Good lord. You are bad at this, “independent.”


This was just one point in response to someone who asked "What ideology do you find too progressive?" And I stand by my post - this is one area that I find too progressive/liberal. But I am also pro-LGBTQ rights -- it's something the progressive/liberal left can't seem to comprehend which is so frustrating -- you can support LGBTQ rights but also disagree with certain specific issues. The all-or-nothing attitude of the left is tiresome. Just as tiresome as the all-or-nothing attitude of the right when it comes to abortion. Same thing.


DP. Well said. This is how I feel, too. So sick of the extremes.



The forgotten middle.
The middle children of the country if you will.


Well said indeed.

Well, Harris acknowledges you with this pick.



No she didn't.
I'm still likely to vote for her given I can't tolerate Trump.
But I will also likely to vote more right leaning down ballot to keep things somewhat balanced.

The Democrats have bent over backwards to be right leaning (Biden, Clinton, Kaine, Lieberman, Gore, Obama, Kerry… these are not far left people); the same is never asked of the GOP. Not ever. Voters like you never ask that the GOP move left. You should ask yourself why you don’t think they should moderate.


I have in my lifetime voted for both Democrats and Republicans.
I vote for who at the time I feel is best for the country overall, best represents the views of the country and best reflects my personal views.

I think both parties are invested in playing to the extremes and not really listening to what people actually want.



+100
Absolutely agree. I would happily vote for a Bill Clinton today.
DP


Walz is basically Bill Clinton.


Please stop. Just stop. Bill Clinton would be a moderate Republican today, especially his views on STOPPING illegal immigration. Tim Walz seems very content to allow illegal immigrants in - and provide them with driver's licenses, to boot. He is sadly nowhere near Bill Clinton.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4631739/user-clip-bill-clinton-illegal-immigration
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2024 21:47     Subject: Re:She picked Tim

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Anonymous wrote:Voting for a president isn’t like giving a Valentine- you don’t need to love them- it’s a chess move for a better country.


Democrats fall in love. Well, I just fell in love, folks. I think there is a lot of excitement and it ain't for TFG whining on Truth Social for Biden to come back.


Glad you vote with your heart and not your head. Let us know how that works out for you.


I’ve said that many times here. Dems vote based on emotion. Republicans do not.


The GOP is all fear and anger - those are emotions. Your criticism is not remotely original, and it’s both outdated and incorrect.


Wow, so.much.projection. Democrats have been insisting that Trump will “end democracy!!” The threads on this forum are beyond fear-mongering and looney rage. They are truly unhinged.
DP



The Harris Walz campaign is a positive one and talking policy, not retribution.


They actually haven't talked policy at all.

They have talked hope and change and the other guys are weird let's dance to some music and create a meme moment.
I would love to actually here them talk policy.
I think most voters would too.
But hope and change and a lot of flare worked once. I suppose it could work again


They talked policy this evening. Did you watch the speech?


Yes. That's not policy my friend
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Post 08/06/2024 21:46     Subject: She picked Tim

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Full blown. It's all trans in bathrooms and George Floyd/riots! That's all they got. Wait until they start hearing him speak! This is going to be delicious.


The riots and overall breakdown of law and order in our cities is where the Democrats are most vulnerable. Expect to hear about Kamala’s San Francisco and Tim’s Minneapolis nonstop for the next three months.


Did January 6th not happen? I don't understand how GOP are so concerned about some riots and not others. It's weird.


Bingo


All riots should be equally disdained regardless of the issue behind it because more often than not it's some nut job extremist thugs who don't actually care about the issue behind it....but as such should also be equally prosecuted and equally thought of as wrong regardless of the issue. It's never ok to destroy property regardless of the issue or topic period.


I agree. I read an article about The riots in MN and poor reaction time. Walz was very honest about it all and how it was not handled well. Now contrast that with Trump who still thinks January 6th was a good thing.


True - but I also know many Dems who think the BLM riots were a good thing too.


Dems supported the peaceful protests and criticized where the looting and property damage took place.


Well I'll rephrase,"I have personally spoken to more than one Dem who feels the looting and property damage was justified". But we are going off-topic now. Back to Tim Walz....honestly...I don't care how he reacted to the BLM riots because it was an extremely difficult time. I also don't care about anything he did or didn't do 20 yrs ago. I do care about his political views and social ideology which are too progressive for my taste. Not saying it's going to make me vote for Trump but I am now strongly considering staying home...and this is coming from someone who was pushing their DD to go out and vote because of the importance of voting - DD doesn't care to vote this year either. I can see her point of view.


What ideology do you find too progressive?


[…]
Education: In favor of reduced/free college education for the trades -- in fact...take some of the illegal immigrants who have been here for over 10-15+ yrs (because realistically you can't deport them all) and educate them in the trades. Fix our education system and stop focusing on stupid issues that don't belong in schools. Teach tolerance and respect as a two-way street. Note: I actually like how Walz has approached education in MN -- except for teaching gender ideology in schools. Many parents voice their concerns: https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/minnesota-parents-clash-over-teachers-discussing-gender-identity-with-students-stay-in-your-lane-osseo-area-schools-isd-279-lgbtqia-history-and-culture-resolution-lgbt-transgender and […]


You cite a ton of right wing talking points and misrepresentations (no one takes you seriously when your argument is a strawman), but I think you should have read the article you posted before spouting off about “teaching gender ideology” and from a “news” outlet in Austin, TX owned by Sinclair. But even they were able to sneak in the fact that it’s not teaching gender ideology but respecting all students, including the ones who were being bullied for being gay. So you want gay kids to get bullied? That’s essentially what you said.

And to try to pull some grapes out of your cornucopia of misled: that was an Osseo, MN policy, not a state wide one. Good lord. You are bad at this, “independent.”


This was just one point in response to someone who asked "What ideology do you find too progressive?" And I stand by my post - this is one area that I find too progressive/liberal. But I am also pro-LGBTQ rights -- it's something the progressive/liberal left can't seem to comprehend which is so frustrating -- you can support LGBTQ rights but also disagree with certain specific issues. The all-or-nothing attitude of the left is tiresome. Just as tiresome as the all-or-nothing attitude of the right when it comes to abortion. Same thing.


DP. Well said. This is how I feel, too. So sick of the extremes.



The forgotten middle.
The middle children of the country if you will.


Well said indeed.

Well, Harris acknowledges you with this pick.


DP. No. Walz may be a nice person, but he is not middle-of-the-road/moderate. Please stop pretending otherwise.


You must be kidding! Or you are grossly ignorant of his record.


What is his record on illegal immigration?
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Post 08/06/2024 21:43     Subject: She picked Tim

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Anonymous wrote:Today I learned that Minnesota is a burned out socialist hell hole. These QAnon freaks are spitting Truth!



I know someone who lives in Minnesota and she doesn't work. she lives off CHILD SUPPORT, SSI, CHILD SUPPORT AND SECTION 8 HOUSING.


WE NEED TO BANNED SECTION 8, SSI, AND CHILD SUPPORT IF THE WOMEN DOESN'T WORK.


poor English, all caps and mistakenly repeated words and catch phrases points to Russian troll. Jeff- please remove user.


That poster is a normal poster who usually posts totally literate posts in normal case. He is putting on an act. Just ignore or enjoy the humor. He cracked me up today writing that Trump gave the best speech since the Gaithersburg address.


Yes, it's pretty good stuff.