Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 20:06     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

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Anonymous wrote:Very real question: Seattle is theoretically ~7 weeks into community spread. Coastal cities should be into their outbreaks. Shouldn't we already be seeing major increases in hospital admissions, ER visits, ICU overruns? It isn't happening at this point. The situation at the LTC facility has been an absolute nightmare - total hell. But outside of that, are we seeing the doomsday scenario? Should we take some comfort in the fact that this has not become a widespread disaster at this point? Perhaps it simply isn't spreading here the way it has in Italy, or the strain has not been as lethal?


Yep.


Seattle has done some things right to slow the spread. Some of the biggest employers like Microsoft and Amazon are letting people work from home. The UW classes and final exams are now online. There are news photos of how empty downtown Seattle is now during times that used to be busy. The fact that it has not spread faster, in Seattle, could be because they are doing some things right, and should not be used as a comparison to what might happen if there is an outbreak in another major coty.



What good is it?
Purely stupid:

“This is not an exclusion or quarantine zone. No one is prohibited from entering or leaving the area,” said New Rochelle Mayor Noam Bramson. “This does not affect individual homeowners or families or businesses. It is purely a prohibition on large gatherings in order to make sure the spread of the virus is mitigated to the greatest degree possible.”
Cuomo's NY National Guard containment zone is using the National Guard to clean and enforce no large gatherings. Why can't people who live there clean or won't they? No one is contained and people can enter and leave the Cuomo Containment zone. So you might have been exposed and are capable of giving others the virus and go to work, visit out of state or in state, go to a show in NYC. Ride the subway. Sit near a nurse and then what?https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/03/10/coronavirus-new-rochelle-containment-area/

The Seattle area has 10 nursing homes/assisted living facilities with coronavirus patients - deaths at more than 1 facility. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/virus-cases-in-at-least-10-seattle-area-nursing-homes/ar-BB10ZT25



Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 20:03     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

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Anonymous wrote:Very real question: Seattle is theoretically ~7 weeks into community spread. Coastal cities should be into their outbreaks. Shouldn't we already be seeing major increases in hospital admissions, ER visits, ICU overruns? It isn't happening at this point. The situation at the LTC facility has been an absolute nightmare - total hell. But outside of that, are we seeing the doomsday scenario? Should we take some comfort in the fact that this has not become a widespread disaster at this point? Perhaps it simply isn't spreading here the way it has in Italy, or the strain has not been as lethal?


Yep.


Seattle has done some things right to slow the spread. Some of the biggest employers like Microsoft and Amazon are letting people work from home. The UW classes and final exams are now online. There are news photos of how empty downtown Seattle is now during times that used to be busy. The fact that it has not spread faster, in Seattle, could be because they are doing some things right, and should not be used as a comparison to what might happen if there is an outbreak in another major coty.


Cuomo's NY National Guard containment zone is using the National Guard to clean and enforce no large gatherings. Why can't people who live there clean or won't they? No one is contained and people can enter and leave the Cuomo Containment zone. So you might have been exposed and are capable of giving others the virus and go to work, visit out of state or in state, go to a show in NYC. Ride the subway. Sit near a nurse and then what?https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/03/10/coronavirus-new-rochelle-containment-area/

The Seattle area has 10 nursing homes/assisted living facilities with coronavirus patients - deaths at more than 1 facility. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/virus-cases-in-at-least-10-seattle-area-nursing-homes/ar-BB10ZT25





I'm a Jew so I'll tackle this. A lot of Orthodox Jews just don't listen to government authority. They need to be forced.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 20:02     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

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Anonymous wrote:Very real question: Seattle is theoretically ~7 weeks into community spread. Coastal cities should be into their outbreaks. Shouldn't we already be seeing major increases in hospital admissions, ER visits, ICU overruns? It isn't happening at this point. The situation at the LTC facility has been an absolute nightmare - total hell. But outside of that, are we seeing the doomsday scenario? Should we take some comfort in the fact that this has not become a widespread disaster at this point? Perhaps it simply isn't spreading here the way it has in Italy, or the strain has not been as lethal?


Yep.


Seattle has done some things right to slow the spread. Some of the biggest employers like Microsoft and Amazon are letting people work from home. The UW classes and final exams are now online. There are news photos of how empty downtown Seattle is now during times that used to be busy. The fact that it has not spread faster, in Seattle, could be because they are doing some things right, and should not be used as a comparison to what might happen if there is an outbreak in another major coty.


Fully agree.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 20:01     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

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Anonymous wrote:neither my parents or parents in law appear to be changing their behavior, despite my recommendations. every day is a new excuse to go out somewhere in public, a separate reason that "its ok" and some sort of exception to the need focus on social distancing.
yesterday, a new trash can at wal mart was a crucial need.

and these folks are at moderate risk because of a few run of the mill underlying health conditions.

multiply this by a zillion non-employed old folks (they are ~73-77) who are just restless and need 'go somewhere everyday' because its habit.

these old folks ARENT going to change. we're in for a bumpy ride


I just got off the phone with my 79 year old mom in Florida. She and my 80 year old dad haven’t changed a thing. She went to church this morning. They went to dinner last night. Planning on meeting up with my aunt this afternoon for some shopping.


Same with my parents and every one of my friends parents. All the 70+ folks are currently itching to fly, travel and hang out at large gatherings in public places


Maybe they are tired? DH’s uncle keeps joking that pneumonia is an old man’s best friend.


My parents live in an out of state retirement community and NOBODY there is taking it swriously, or at least not the “cool kids” my parents hang with.
They are going to church (purposely ignore the pastor’s request for no kissing/hugging, dinners, local events, etc. why? Bc “the coronavirus is a liberal democrat hoax that they made up when the impeachment failed.”
I shit you not. I did not know HOW to start responding. Coronavirus is going to hit their commmunity HARD and there is no way I am going to be able to travel out of state, leaving my kids, when they get sick. This is going to be a $hitshow.


I'm a conservative. Your folks are in huge denial. Call them, tell them you love them, and for the love of Pete do NOT visit, even if they are sick.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 19:57     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/03/study-highlights-ease-spread-covid-19-viruses


Well that's horrifying.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 19:56     Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

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Anonymous wrote:For those saying it is not spreading here in the US, we are now up to 849 cases. Of course, could be because we are now testing more...


https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-10-20-intl-hnk/index.html



They aren’t testing everyone. The spouse of an infected Georgetown Church patron can’t get tested. My doctor friend treated at covid-19 patient and he said the hospital is not testing doctors and nurses.


Spouses tend to get it. What was the rationale given to the spouse as to no testing?


He's not showing symptoms. And apparently you are expected to be able to stay away from your spouse in your own home.


That’s nuts because if they’re asymptomatic but positive for the virus, they can spread it to others in the community. Such stupidity!
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 19:53     Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the flu guy yall are pathetic

come back when this thing is killing over 10,000 people

50,000 people die of the flu every year and people don't panic


Yeah, we're just going to sit and wait. That's the strategy? And then what are you going to do?


not panic


My kid's school remains open. 35000 students. Faculty. Administrative staff. On and On.

But guess what? Nothing will happen --- until it does


Brilliant insight.


The UW is the first university and might be only one so far that has moved to online classes. They are on a quarterly schedule so final exams are on-line also. There probably will be more universities that choose to do this in the next few weeks.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 19:51     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:OPM needs to implement a 2 week mandatory closure/telework now. That could stop the spread in much of the dc area before it takes months of closure when it’s more widespread


Agreed.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 19:49     Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the flu guy yall are pathetic

come back when this thing is killing over 10,000 people

50,000 people die of the flu every year and people don't panic


Honest question - what's it like being this dumb?


The US now has over 1000 cases. This thing grows exponentially but the flu is worse. Yeah right.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 19:46     Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:I'm the flu guy yall are pathetic

come back when this thing is killing over 10,000 people

50,000 people die of the flu every year and people don't panic


Honest question - what's it like being this dumb?
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 19:45     Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm the flu guy yall are pathetic

come back when this thing is killing over 10,000 people

50,000 people die of the flu every year and people don't panic


Yeah, we're just going to sit and wait. That's the strategy? And then what are you going to do?


not panic


My kid's school remains open. 35000 students. Faculty. Administrative staff. On and On.

But guess what? Nothing will happen --- until it does


Brilliant insight.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 19:44     Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those saying it is not spreading here in the US, we are now up to 849 cases. Of course, could be because we are now testing more...


https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-10-20-intl-hnk/index.html



They aren’t testing everyone. The spouse of an infected Georgetown Church patron can’t get tested. My doctor friend treated at covid-19 patient and he said the hospital is not testing doctors and nurses.


Spouses tend to get it. What was the rationale given to the spouse as to no testing?


He's not showing symptoms. And apparently you are expected to be able to stay away from your spouse in your own home.


Friend of mine went on a business call to someone's house. They were under quarantine but never bothered to call. Said "Would you feel comfortable 6 feet away from me?" NO! If he hadn't called, he would have knocked on the door, they would have answered, etc. Welcome to DC elitism.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 19:43     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:neither my parents or parents in law appear to be changing their behavior, despite my recommendations. every day is a new excuse to go out somewhere in public, a separate reason that "its ok" and some sort of exception to the need focus on social distancing.
yesterday, a new trash can at wal mart was a crucial need.

and these folks are at moderate risk because of a few run of the mill underlying health conditions.

multiply this by a zillion non-employed old folks (they are ~73-77) who are just restless and need 'go somewhere everyday' because its habit.

these old folks ARENT going to change. we're in for a bumpy ride


I just got off the phone with my 79 year old mom in Florida. She and my 80 year old dad haven’t changed a thing. She went to church this morning. They went to dinner last night. Planning on meeting up with my aunt this afternoon for some shopping.


Same with my parents and every one of my friends parents. All the 70+ folks are currently itching to fly, travel and hang out at large gatherings in public places


Maybe they are tired? DH’s uncle keeps joking that pneumonia is an old man’s best friend.


My parents live in an out of state retirement community and NOBODY there is taking it swriously, or at least not the “cool kids” my parents hang with.
They are going to church (purposely ignore the pastor’s request for no kissing/hugging, dinners, local events, etc. why? Bc “the coronavirus is a liberal democrat hoax that they made up when the impeachment failed.”
I shit you not. I did not know HOW to start responding. Coronavirus is going to hit their commmunity HARD and there is no way I am going to be able to travel out of state, leaving my kids, when they get sick. This is going to be a $hitshow.


Sadly, they will die. Stupidity will finally kill them. Darwin.


They’ve already reproduced so that hardly helps us evolve as a species.


How on earth would a liberal democratic hoax cause the entire country of Italy to shut down? For the life of me, I can’t understand the logic...I have some (educated) FB friends saying these things, just no logic
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 19:42     Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm the flu guy yall are pathetic

come back when this thing is killing over 10,000 people

50,000 people die of the flu every year and people don't panic


Yeah, we're just going to sit and wait. That's the strategy? And then what are you going to do?


not panic


My kid's school remains open. 35000 students. Faculty. Administrative staff. On and On.

But guess what? Nothing will happen --- until it does
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2020 19:38     Subject: Re:CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those saying it is not spreading here in the US, we are now up to 849 cases. Of course, could be because we are now testing more...


https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-10-20-intl-hnk/index.html



They aren’t testing everyone. The spouse of an infected Georgetown Church patron can’t get tested. My doctor friend treated at covid-19 patient and he said the hospital is not testing doctors and nurses.


Spouses tend to get it. What was the rationale given to the spouse as to no testing?


He's not showing symptoms. And apparently you are expected to be able to stay away from your spouse in your own home.