Anonymous wrote:This is the message I am getting from the Democrats.....

"We want to impeach Trump. We know he committed some infraction that we will articulate later. We have a whistleblower that has said he did something (shhh.... we have known about him for some time now, but we want the public to think we found out about him when they did). But we are not going to take a vote to move forward (shhh.... we don't want our red-state Democrats to go on record with a vote and we don't want to give the Republicans in the House any authority during this process). We are going to make the rules. With no input from the Republicans. And, we are going to conduct all interviews, depositions, and hearings behind closed doors. And, we really want you, the public, to get on board with our impeachment so we only want you to have the information that we leak (because God forbid, we should release any information beneficial to Trump). And, if the whistleblower testifies, his identity will remain a secret because in our process, the accused does not get to face the accuser. Remember, we make the rules. We know he is guilty of something, and we'll get to the bottom of it eventually. Remember that we will show you the evidence (that WE want you to see). In the meantime, keep in mind that we have an election in 13 months. This process has NOTHING to do with the election. Believe us. Trust us."

Anonymous wrote:This is the message I am getting from the Democrats.....

"We want to impeach Trump. We know he committed some infraction that we will articulate later. We have a whistleblower that has said he did something (shhh.... we have known about him for some time now, but we want the public to think we found out about him when they did). But we are not going to take a vote to move forward (shhh.... we don't want our red-state Democrats to go on record with a vote and we don't want to give the Republicans in the House any authority during this process). We are going to make the rules. With no input from the Republicans. And, we are going to conduct all interviews, depositions, and hearings behind closed doors. And, we really want you, the public, to get on board with our impeachment so we only want you to have the information that we leak (because God forbid, we should release any information beneficial to Trump). And, if the whistleblower testifies, his identity will remain a secret because in our process, the accused does not get to face the accuser. Remember, we make the rules. We know he is guilty of something, and we'll get to the bottom of it eventually. Remember that we will show you the evidence (that WE want you to see). In the meantime, keep in mind that we have an election in 13 months. This process has NOTHING to do with the election. Believe us. Trust us."

The White House has reached out to outside lawyers for impeachment counsel.

One of the lawyers they reached out to is Trey Gowdy.

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Anonymous wrote:So will Gaetz, Jordan and Meadows apply the 'Hillary emails" standard to the Ambassador Sondland's personal phone?

Democrats need to hold them to it, or make the GOP account for their hypocrisy.

House Democrats just subpoenaed Sondland.

It’s not a subpoena unless it’s an official investigation. This is such a s t show. No one has to cooperate under these circumstances.

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Anonymous wrote:A deposition is not a hearing.

Yeah, this point isn't very clear to the public. These people are testifying, or not testifying. But these aren't hearings. The hearings will come, with Pompeo or without him.

And, there is no reason why these cannot be public. Except that Schiff knows that the testimony these people are giving do not advance their cause.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So will Gaetz, Jordan and Meadows apply the 'Hillary emails" standard to the Ambassador Sondland's personal phone?

Democrats need to hold them to it, or make the GOP account for their hypocrisy.

House Democrats just subpoenaed Sondland.

It’s not a subpoena unless it’s an official investigation. This is such a s t show. No one has to cooperate under these circumstances.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So will Gaetz, Jordan and Meadows apply the 'Hillary emails" standard to the Ambassador Sondland's personal phone?

Democrats need to hold them to it, or make the GOP account for their hypocrisy.

House Democrats just subpoenaed Sondland.

It’s not a subpoena unless it’s an official investigation. This is such a s t show. No one has to cooperate under these circumstances.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So will Gaetz, Jordan and Meadows apply the 'Hillary emails" standard to the Ambassador Sondland's personal phone?

Democrats need to hold them to it, or make the GOP account for their hypocrisy.

House Democrats just subpoenaed Sondland.

It’s not a subpoena unless it’s an official investigation. This is such a s t show. No one has to cooperate under these circumstances.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So will Gaetz, Jordan and Meadows apply the 'Hillary emails" standard to the Ambassador Sondland's personal phone?

Democrats need to hold them to it, or make the GOP account for their hypocrisy.

House Democrats just subpoenaed Sondland.

It’s not a subpoena unless it’s an official investigation. This is such a s t show. No one has to cooperate under these circumstances.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So will Gaetz, Jordan and Meadows apply the 'Hillary emails" standard to the Ambassador Sondland's personal phone?

Democrats need to hold them to it, or make the GOP account for their hypocrisy.

House Democrats just subpoenaed Sondland.

It’s not a subpoena unless it’s an official investigation. This is such a s t show. No one has to cooperate under these circumstances.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So will Gaetz, Jordan and Meadows apply the 'Hillary emails" standard to the Ambassador Sondland's personal phone?

Democrats need to hold them to it, or make the GOP account for their hypocrisy.

House Democrats just subpoenaed Sondland.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So will Gaetz, Jordan and Meadows apply the 'Hillary emails" standard to the Ambassador Sondland's personal phone?

Democrats need to hold them to it, or make the GOP account for their hypocrisy.

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Then, they should make it official and take a vote. Why is Pelosi not doing this if she KNOWS she has the votes?
When this is a legitimate process, and the GOP has the same rights of subpoena and such that the Dems have, people will cooperate. Until then, I don't blame them for not participating in this sham.

They are using the same rules the republicans used two years ago. Do you not remember how frustrated Schiff was getting in the era of the Nunes Memo? Same.Exact.Rules.

Why do you think the GOP deserves more rights in the House now than the Dems had two years ago? Maybe if Paul Ryan had run a more open House of Representatives, this would be a valid argument, but see the problem? Ryan set the standard on this one, and Newt before in 1998.