Anonymous
Post 12/06/2024 16:43     Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This guy was a real slimeball.

https://fortune.com/2024/12/05/unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-lawsuits-social-media-reaction-motive/

It says the killer arrived just 10 minutes before Thompson appeared.
Sheer luck, huh?
Some of you are incredibly naive. Someone obviously told the killer when to arrive. Obviously.


I posted the time earlier. It was 5 min.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2024 16:42     Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


You're right, but people don't see, nor are they are directly impacted, by the things doctors do to pad their reimbursements.


I have been on the phone for the last two weeks dealing with an issue in which my health care system upcoded a procedure, billed multiple times for a single procedure, and passed the costs through a facility that I never stepped foot in but just happens to be categorized as the highest-tier for reimbursement. I absolutely see the shenanigans at this level.

And also I think insurance is a huge problem (have dealt with UHC in the past and it was a nightmare — just The Absolute Worst).

Unfortunately lots of things are true at the same time in this deeply broken system.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2024 16:42     Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


You're right, but people don't see, nor are they are directly impacted, by the things doctors do to pad their reimbursements.


Seriously? You’re complaining about a doctor earning $500K when they are actively saving lives and work 80 hours a week? You’re comparing their $500K to a CEO’s $10 million in earnings where they routinely deny people health coverage?


I'm not comparing that because I don't think they're equivalent. You were comparing them.

Do you work in medicine? If not, you'd be horrified by what some doctors do to increase their reimbursements at both higher cost to the patients and at the cost of good patient care.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2024 16:40     Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

Anonymous wrote:Why would he drop the phone?? Why did he not pick it up?


A cell phone is a pocket sized tracking device.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2024 16:39     Subject: Re:UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

“The inbound bus originated in Atlanta but it was not immediately clear where the suspected boarded. However, sources said he was spotted on board in Washington D.C., so he boarded there or somewhere between DC and Atlanta”

https://abc7ny.com/amp/post/unitedhealthcare-ceo-murder-latest-nypd-checking-suspected-shooter-left-nyc-bus/15625161/

Anonymous
Post 12/06/2024 16:39     Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s clear to me that 90% of the people on here have no idea how corporate America works. That is what is shocking.

I’m not sure what you all do for a living if anything at all, but I highly encourage you to do a little background reading. Or watch Netflix (industry; billions; succession).

So much to unpack here. You can’t think of jobs in non-corporate America? You don’t understand why people are frustrated at insurance companies? You think only lazy, unemployed people are the ones venting? People like you are make it harder to empathize with the rich.


Anyone who’s recommending we watch to Netflix to learn about corporate America doesn’t understand it either.


Excuse you. Succession is on MAX, not Netflix. You sound poor.

/s
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2024 16:38     Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

Why would he drop the phone?? Why did he not pick it up?
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2024 16:37     Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s clear to me that 90% of the people on here have no idea how corporate America works. That is what is shocking.

I’m not sure what you all do for a living if anything at all, but I highly encourage you to do a little background reading. Or watch Netflix (industry; billions; succession).

So much to unpack here. You can’t think of jobs in non-corporate America? You don’t understand why people are frustrated at insurance companies? You think only lazy, unemployed people are the ones venting? People like you are make it harder to empathize with the rich.


Anyone who’s recommending we watch to Netflix to learn about corporate America doesn’t understand it either.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2024 16:37     Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What time did they cut off the meeting?

Cute
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2024 16:37     Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The shooter waited 5 minutes in his location, not feasible on his own. Nobody gets that lucky.


Ding, Ding, Ding!!
DCUM can’t handle it may have been suicide by hired gunman, huh?


I saw two LE analysts, one FBI and one USMS, on TV this morning and they were both pretty adamant the shooter is not a professional.


Geee, shocking

I said that the very first time I saw the video. A trained shooter isn’t going to use an untested gun+suppressor combination. He was expecting that pistol to function, and it didn’t. Repeatedly. He had to cycle it by hand each time to get it to fire. So clearly he’d never practiced with that gun/suppressor even once, because had he, he would’ve learned then that it didn’t work. A professional killer wouldn’t take a chance like that. They would use something previously tested, with 100% reliability.



In other words, these LE analysts on TV are about as perceptive and knowledgeable as me, a guy who flies airplanes for living.


That gun has to be cycled after every shot, just like a standard shotgun. It's actually a cool gun, based off of a WW2 pistol. The design + screw on suppressor makes it quiet, relative to a normal pistol. I had no idea either until I searched for the gun on YouTube.


I'm interested in this. I deal with a lot of gun crimes as part of my job and I'm struggling to understand why anyone would choose this kind of gun? What's the advantage?
Why not get a 9mm Glock like every other criminal? It seems like it dramatically increases the chance of getting caught.

They have the weapon, yes?
Can’t they identify its owner?


I don’t think they have the gun. They are basing their data on the video and shell casings
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2024 16:37     Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


You're right, but people don't see, nor are they are directly impacted, by the things doctors do to pad their reimbursements.


Seriously? You’re complaining about a doctor earning $500K when they are actively saving lives and work 80 hours a week? You’re comparing their $500K to a CEO’s $10 million in earnings where they routinely deny people health coverage?
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2024 16:35     Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

Anonymous wrote:What time did they cut off the meeting?
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2024 16:33     Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.


You're right, but people don't see, nor are they are directly impacted, by the things doctors do to pad their reimbursements.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2024 16:33     Subject: Re:UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously! how did this guy know Thompson would come out at 6:45 ish. I mean the meeting was at 8 AM.

Why would Thompson come out this early?

This definitely was someone from the inside organization.

So at what time did they call of the meeting?

It wasn’t canceled. It had already begun and they cut it off in the middle of the earnings call shortly after the shooting saying it was due to a medical situation.

I don’t know how many times people need to hear this. I’m not directing this to PP but to the many people who keep commenting how did he know where he was etc. etc. This was a regularly scheduled quarterly earnings report. The date the time all of it is known in advance and widely publicized across multiple news sites and countless apps There was nothing secret or special about this meeting. Anyone can go to the company website and sign up for example to be on the call. You don’t have to be a shareholder to access any of the information. It’s all completely public. Go to the earnings whisperer website or download the app QARTR for example and you will see all of the earnings calls scheduled for a given date.


How did he know then that he was in another hotel and walking to the meeting? Meeting started at 8 AM. He was ready by 6;40 ... How did he know he was not in that hotel itself... Something is fishy.

Exactly. I’m thinking more and more that Thompson wanted to be dead. They need to be looking at all of his banking records to see anything unusual.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2024 16:33     Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The shooter waited 5 minutes in his location, not feasible on his own. Nobody gets that lucky.


Ding, Ding, Ding!!
DCUM can’t handle it may have been suicide by hired gunman, huh?


I saw two LE analysts, one FBI and one USMS, on TV this morning and they were both pretty adamant the shooter is not a professional.


Geee, shocking

I said that the very first time I saw the video. A trained shooter isn’t going to use an untested gun+suppressor combination. He was expecting that pistol to function, and it didn’t. Repeatedly. He had to cycle it by hand each time to get it to fire. So clearly he’d never practiced with that gun/suppressor even once, because had he, he would’ve learned then that it didn’t work. A professional killer wouldn’t take a chance like that. They would use something previously tested, with 100% reliability.



In other words, these LE analysts on TV are about as perceptive and knowledgeable as me, a guy who flies airplanes for living.


That gun has to be cycled after every shot, just like a standard shotgun. It's actually a cool gun, based off of a WW2 pistol. The design + screw on suppressor makes it quiet, relative to a normal pistol. I had no idea either until I searched for the gun on YouTube.


I'm interested in this. I deal with a lot of gun crimes as part of my job and I'm struggling to understand why anyone would choose this kind of gun? What's the advantage?
Why not get a 9mm Glock like every other criminal? It seems like it dramatically increases the chance of getting caught.


Just a wild guess, but possible something to do with purchasing and/tracing of the gun. If this is a WWII gun or even a WWII inspired gun, it may have been purchased a long time ago before modern tracking of gun purchases was in place, probably not something he personally owned but even so, his name wouldn’t be tied to it