Anonymous
09/30/2024 22:26
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And the IDF ground operation in Lebanon has begun.
Good. The IDF is doing Lebanon a favor by ridding it of those terrorist losers, Hezbollah.
And this is the heartless attitude that creates lifelong enemies.
Real humans are dying. It’s not to be celebrated if the deaths are Israelis so why would you celebrate when the deaths are from Lebanon?
The Israeli and Israeli American perspective is that Israel is assuming all the risk and genuinely doing the world a favor. They also think it is sad but that it sadly has to be done to save the world. This is what they tell themselves and read on ynet.
A lot of Israeli Americans are reading quite the opposite on Haaretz and 972, and this attitude is the reason they live in America now instead of in Israel.
If you talk to Israelis or people with an Israeli connection in America, they were in absolute disbelief in the beginning that Israel shut off water to Gaza, blew up hospitals and sources of food production, stopped medical and food aid, that snipers are targeting children. They put Israel on a pedestal. they didn’t know Palestinians or the swaths of people in dc who have worked in Gaza or the west bank over the past several decades. They had no clue about the evil happening across the wall and in Israel towards Arabs. Blissful, willful ignorance. And yet, they were on the front lines of rights for refugees and asylum workers, lgbtq, any marginalized group really. I don’t see anyone trying to dismantle the Israeli propaganda machine now that they may know better because doing so would threaten Israel. And they will tell you, however sad they are for the orphaned, limbless kiddies in Gaza, that to criticize Israel is antisemitic.
This has not been anything like my experience talking to Israelis or people with an Israeli connection during this war, many of whom are angry and despondent over what the Israeli government has been doing.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 22:17
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And the IDF ground operation in Lebanon has begun.
Good. The IDF is doing Lebanon a favor by ridding it of those terrorist losers, Hezbollah.
And this is the heartless attitude that creates lifelong enemies.
Real humans are dying. It’s not to be celebrated if the deaths are Israelis so why would you celebrate when the deaths are from Lebanon?
The Israeli and Israeli American perspective is that Israel is assuming all the risk and genuinely doing the world a favor. They also think it is sad but that it sadly has to be done to save the world. This is what they tell themselves and read on ynet.
They (not all) aren’t worried about creating NEW enemies. They have a cultish belief that everyone is already antisemitic and that if they venture too far from the tribe and mingle with gentiles they will eventually be met with hatred, violence, or attempts to convert them. That their only safe space is each other - is fundamental to their belief system. Religion is a system that reinforces itself. Judaism isn’t the only religion to use fear to reinforce insular community.
How to you reconcile this theory with the fact that like 70 percent of Jews marry non-Jews?
Anonymous
09/30/2024 22:15
Subject: Re:Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And the U.S. is getting itself drawn into another Middle East war - one not of our choosing. U.S. troops are en route to “defend Israel.”
If anyone needs defending right now, it’s the hundreds of thousands of displaced Palestinians and Lebanese afraid of Israeli bombs over their heads.
How many dead Arabs does it take to satisfy Israel?
No, not correct. All you fkn white people have been choosing this for the past 25 (50? 75?) years. POC have just been following along to pick up the scraps. You care more about which side of the SJW issues you're on than siding with autocrats and dictators to sell weapons to fund your SJW or anti-SJW agendas. The fact it's taken this long for most Americans to finally start to choose sides is alarming. Seriously. Maybe it's America that shouldn't exist... at least not in it's present sh!tty, getting sh!tier, form. I mean, quite possibly the two worst presidential candidates in American history in the same election? Hopefully the ME nonsense going on will realign America to some better version than it is now. Some version of, let them deal with their own sh!t and stop propping up failed states on both sides.
This is of high-comedic value. Bravo, dear clown. Well done.
You forgot to identify which kind of white people you are. It would help to understand which kind of hypocritic dumb you then are.
DP.
You first. Which kind of POC are you?
White people. So insecure and threatened all the time, so high and mighty privileged that they need to find some niche "underrepresented" group to associate themselves with to game the system, so that they can identify as a non-racial "minority" to reap its benefits while denying the fact that they're part of the oppressor class that's fked up this country since WWII. If you don't understand, then you need to study up on racial politics, IR theory, and western "capitalist" ideals. TL;DR: its all so you can divide everyone else to enrich yourself and create less-than-as-mighty-as-you advertise bogeymen (e.g., Castro and Kim Jong Un) while touting (or ignoring) the evils of others far worse until you don't need them anymore (e.g., Argentine junta, Saddam, and Noriega).
This is so comically racist it must come from a Harvard lecture.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 22:09
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And the IDF ground operation in Lebanon has begun.
Good. The IDF is doing Lebanon a favor by ridding it of those terrorist losers, Hezbollah.
And this is the heartless attitude that creates lifelong enemies.
Real humans are dying. It’s not to be celebrated if the deaths are Israelis so why would you celebrate when the deaths are from Lebanon?
The Israeli and Israeli American perspective is that Israel is assuming all the risk and genuinely doing the world a favor. They also think it is sad but that it sadly has to be done to save the world. This is what they tell themselves and read on ynet.
A lot of Israeli Americans are reading quite the opposite on Haaretz and 972, and this attitude is the reason they live in America now instead of in Israel.
If you talk to Israelis or people with an Israeli connection in America, they were in absolute disbelief in the beginning that Israel shut off water to Gaza, blew up hospitals and sources of food production, stopped medical and food aid, that snipers are targeting children. They put Israel on a pedestal. they didn’t know Palestinians or the swaths of people in dc who have worked in Gaza or the west bank over the past several decades. They had no clue about the evil happening across the wall and in Israel towards Arabs. Blissful, willful ignorance. And yet, they were on the front lines of rights for refugees and asylum workers, lgbtq, any marginalized group really. I don’t see anyone trying to dismantle the Israeli propaganda machine now that they may know better because doing so would threaten Israel. And they will tell you, however sad they are for the orphaned, limbless kiddies in Gaza, that to criticize Israel is antisemitic.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 21:59
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And the IDF ground operation in Lebanon has begun.
Good. The IDF is doing Lebanon a favor by ridding it of those terrorist losers, Hezbollah.
And this is the heartless attitude that creates lifelong enemies.
Real humans are dying. It’s not to be celebrated if the deaths are Israelis so why would you celebrate when the deaths are from Lebanon?
The Israeli and Israeli American perspective is that Israel is assuming all the risk and genuinely doing the world a favor. They also think it is sad but that it sadly has to be done to save the world. This is what they tell themselves and read on ynet.
They (not all) aren’t worried about creating NEW enemies. They have a cultish belief that everyone is already antisemitic and that if they venture too far from the tribe and mingle with gentiles they will eventually be met with hatred, violence, or attempts to convert them. That their only safe space is each other - is fundamental to their belief system. Religion is a system that reinforces itself. Judaism isn’t the only religion to use fear to reinforce insular community.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 21:54
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And the IDF ground operation in Lebanon has begun.
Good. The IDF is doing Lebanon a favor by ridding it of those terrorist losers, Hezbollah.
And this is the heartless attitude that creates lifelong enemies.
Real humans are dying. It’s not to be celebrated if the deaths are Israelis so why would you celebrate when the deaths are from Lebanon?
The Israeli and Israeli American perspective is that Israel is assuming all the risk and genuinely doing the world a favor. They also think it is sad but that it sadly has to be done to save the world. This is what they tell themselves and read on ynet.
It’s hard to see how the world can get past this brainwashing.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 21:53
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And the IDF ground operation in Lebanon has begun.
Good. The IDF is doing Lebanon a favor by ridding it of those terrorist losers, Hezbollah.
And this is the heartless attitude that creates lifelong enemies.
Real humans are dying. It’s not to be celebrated if the deaths are Israelis so why would you celebrate when the deaths are from Lebanon?
The Israeli and Israeli American perspective is that Israel is assuming all the risk and genuinely doing the world a favor. They also think it is sad but that it sadly has to be done to save the world. This is what they tell themselves and read on ynet.
A lot of Israeli Americans are reading quite the opposite on Haaretz and 972, and this attitude is the reason they live in America now instead of in Israel.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 21:52
Subject: Re:Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And the U.S. is getting itself drawn into another Middle East war - one not of our choosing. U.S. troops are en route to “defend Israel.”
If anyone needs defending right now, it’s the hundreds of thousands of displaced Palestinians and Lebanese afraid of Israeli bombs over their heads.
How many dead Arabs does it take to satisfy Israel?
How many to satisfy Hamas and Hezbollah?
This makes no sense. It is not just about Israel vs Hamas and Hezbollah. There are thousands of humans living in tbe area where Israel is bombing. Have you ever been to Lebanon? Know any Lebanese? They are worldly sophisticated and well educated people. They have not historically been anti west or anti democracy. Israel is sure turning them that way though.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 21:52
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And the IDF ground operation in Lebanon has begun.
Good. The IDF is doing Lebanon a favor by ridding it of those terrorist losers, Hezbollah.
And this is the heartless attitude that creates lifelong enemies.
Real humans are dying. It’s not to be celebrated if the deaths are Israelis so why would you celebrate when the deaths are from Lebanon?
The Israeli and Israeli American perspective is that Israel is assuming all the risk and genuinely doing the world a favor. They also think it is sad but that it sadly has to be done to save the world. This is what they tell themselves and read on ynet.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 21:40
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And the IDF ground operation in Lebanon has begun.
Good. The IDF is doing Lebanon a favor by ridding it of those terrorist losers, Hezbollah.
And this is the heartless attitude that creates lifelong enemies.
Real humans are dying. It’s not to be celebrated if the deaths are Israelis so why would you celebrate when the deaths are from Lebanon?
Anonymous
09/30/2024 21:40
Subject: Re:Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And the U.S. is getting itself drawn into another Middle East war - one not of our choosing. U.S. troops are en route to “defend Israel.”
If anyone needs defending right now, it’s the hundreds of thousands of displaced Palestinians and Lebanese afraid of Israeli bombs over their heads.
How many dead Arabs does it take to satisfy Israel?
No, not correct. All you fkn white people have been choosing this for the past 25 (50? 75?) years. POC have just been following along to pick up the scraps. You care more about which side of the SJW issues you're on than siding with autocrats and dictators to sell weapons to fund your SJW or anti-SJW agendas. The fact it's taken this long for most Americans to finally start to choose sides is alarming. Seriously. Maybe it's America that shouldn't exist... at least not in it's present sh!tty, getting sh!tier, form. I mean, quite possibly the two worst presidential candidates in American history in the same election? Hopefully the ME nonsense going on will realign America to some better version than it is now. Some version of, let them deal with their own sh!t and stop propping up failed states on both sides.
This is of high-comedic value. Bravo, dear clown. Well done.
You forgot to identify which kind of white people you are. It would help to understand which kind of hypocritic dumb you then are.
DP.
You first. Which kind of POC are you?
White people. So insecure and threatened all the time, so high and mighty privileged that they need to find some niche "underrepresented" group to associate themselves with to game the system, so that they can identify as a non-racial "minority" to reap its benefits while denying the fact that they're part of the oppressor class that's fked up this country since WWII. If you don't understand, then you need to study up on racial politics, IR theory, and western "capitalist" ideals. TL;DR: its all so you can divide everyone else to enrich yourself and create less-than-as-mighty-as-you advertise bogeymen (e.g., Castro and Kim Jong Un) while touting (or ignoring) the evils of others far worse until you don't need them anymore (e.g., Argentine junta, Saddam, and Noriega).
Anonymous
09/30/2024 21:38
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is so ridiculous. Muslims and Christians go to Ramadan and Christmas parties. Literally nobody cares about religion in Lebanon. Lebanese are Lebanese. Period.
It’s disgusting that the trouble makers want to foment sectarianism once more in the Levant. It failed in Palestine and it failed in Iraq and it failed in Syria. Arabs know who the troublemakers are
Yes Israel. Without Israel the Middle East would be peaceful. Too bad terrorists like Israel continue to go unpunished. The only reason Israel did not invade Egypt was because Turkey said they would come in on the side of Egypt. Right now Israel is violation of the Egypt Israeli peace treaty with the occupation of the Philadelphia corridor.
Hopefully the Syrian with Russian will aid the Lebanese against the invading Israelis.
This is so sad. Why can’t Israel be happy with what they have? They have a beautiful country and still want more. They should accept a two state solution and Palestinian politicos that support that (Fatah/West Bank) instead of the ones that want a one state solution (Hamas).
Now, they covet Lebanon and the extremist settlers who reside in the West Bank say they need Lebanon. Wtf? Manifest destiny is not going to work for them. Israel is not the U.S., and Muslims are not Native Americans with natural tribal and linguistic divisions. Sunnis and Shias pray together in Lebanon. Christians and Muslims have lived for centuries and both speak Arabic. They both eat the same foods and listen to the same music and say the same name for God (Allah). Allah is Arabic for God and said by Arab Christians.
Israel takes advantage of the U.S. including our presidents complete lack of knowledge about the region. In 2003, the Us’s first strike was on an Iraqi church. Pres Bush famously didn’t know what the difference between Sunni and Shia.
It’s like someone dividing the US between Catholic whites and Protestant whites. It’s ridiculous. If Christians spoke a different language, I can understand how ethnic distinction and divisions could be made but in the end, Lebanon in particular will be a hard country to crack with civil war. Israel will try with all their might but if it failed with Palestinians and Syrians, it will fail
There as well. Israel may have their own civil war in the next 5 years. They should be more concerned about what. Netanyahu has torn the country apart
You need to accept Israelis never wanted peace, not since THEY assassinated Rabin. And that wasn't some anomaly - that's most of the country's mindset.
America allowed Israel to become this. People keep making excuses for Israelis by saying it's only Bibi. No, it's the overwhelming majority. Those protests you saw a while back were about THEM being free. They're fine with being violent occupiers and land thieves. Israel is destroying itself and as an American of Palestinian descent who know first hand how repugnant they behave, it's karma as far as I'm concerned.
This is such crap. Jews have only wanted peace - they’ve been under constant attack for centuries by Islamist invaders.
Israel - in its modern form - is no exception. Israel wanted a two-state solution. Hamas / PLO did not - they wanted literal eradication of all Jews, including those in Israel. And, of course, Israel gone even though it’s Jewish indigenous land (that Islamists stole).
Israel has the right to defend itself.
Why didn’t Israel defend itself against Germany?
Israel does not desire peace. It desires dominance. Israel does not want a two state solution. It wants regional collapse
When did Germany attack Israel?
Israel didn't defend Jews against Germany because it didn't exist as a state until 1948.
And the attack happened in 1946.
Hezbollahs last deadly attack on Israel was in 2006
Hezbollah’s last deadly attack on Israel was much more recent than 2006. Hezbollah killed 12 Israelis just in July with one rocket attack. (Possibly others have been killed more recently, I don’t really keep track.)
But Germany also never attacked Israel. The Jews killed in the Holocaust were citizens of Germany, Poland, France, the USSR, Hungary, etc., not Israelis. There were no Israelis then, they were British mandate subjects.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 21:37
Subject: Re:Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:And the U.S. is getting itself drawn into another Middle East war - one not of our choosing. U.S. troops are en route to “defend Israel.”
If anyone needs defending right now, it’s the hundreds of thousands of displaced Palestinians and Lebanese afraid of Israeli bombs over their heads.
How many dead Arabs does it take to satisfy Israel?
How many to satisfy Hamas and Hezbollah?
Anonymous
09/30/2024 21:32
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:The gap between Hezbollah’s feud with Israel is 40 years in the making and the last war was 18 years ago in 2006.
Israel, a country created on the concept of backdating to religion, can memory hole Germany as just a speck in the glass and nothing more.
An odd take on six million dead
What are you talking about? You’re angry that Israel is not attacking Germany? Why would that make anything better for anyone? Israel did not exist at the time of the Holocaust, so it couldn’t possibly have defended against it. What makes you think Israel has memory-holed Germany?
Besides that, Germany is not still trying to exterminate its Jewish population or the population of all its neighboring states and has paid reparations to Israel for the Holocaust. The Nazi Party is illegal there, and Israel held trials for a variety of former Nazi war criminals. Hezbollah, in contrast, was run until this week by the same leaders as during the last war and it is still firing missiles into Israel. Even by the “logic” you seem to be espousing, the situations aren’t remotely similar. Except that they both involve dead Jews.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 21:06
Subject: Re:Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And the U.S. is getting itself drawn into another Middle East war - one not of our choosing. U.S. troops are en route to “defend Israel.”
If anyone needs defending right now, it’s the hundreds of thousands of displaced Palestinians and Lebanese afraid of Israeli bombs over their heads.
How many dead Arabs does it take to satisfy Israel?
No, not correct. All you fkn white people have been choosing this for the past 25 (50? 75?) years. POC have just been following along to pick up the scraps. You care more about which side of the SJW issues you're on than siding with autocrats and dictators to sell weapons to fund your SJW or anti-SJW agendas. The fact it's taken this long for most Americans to finally start to choose sides is alarming. Seriously. Maybe it's America that shouldn't exist... at least not in it's present sh!tty, getting sh!tier, form. I mean, quite possibly the two worst presidential candidates in American history in the same election? Hopefully the ME nonsense going on will realign America to some better version than it is now. Some version of, let them deal with their own sh!t and stop propping up failed states on both sides.
This is of high-comedic value. Bravo, dear clown. Well done.
You forgot to identify which kind of white people you are. It would help to understand which kind of hypocritic dumb you then are.
DP.
You first. Which kind of POC are you?