Do all the coaches get paid the same rate per team or do the higher team coaches make more?

Appears that coaches are leaving faster than they can hire them.

Anonymous wrote:They are running a business. If they can get 18 families to pay a $400 deposit for a bottom team with no coach, they will then go find some unqualified yahoo, pay him peanuts, and then laugh all the way to the bank.

I appreciated Herndon soccer's fee structure. You get less, you pay less. They even charged less for the HS age spring season due to HS soccer.

A business that is subsidized by tax payer dollars since they use fields built by the county. The fact that these "non-profits" are able to charge so much is crazy.

A $400 deposit is high.

Anonymous wrote:They are running a business. If they can get 18 families to pay a $400 deposit for a bottom team with no coach, they will then go find some unqualified yahoo, pay him peanuts, and then laugh all the way to the bank.

I appreciated Herndon soccer's fee structure. You get less, you pay less. They even charged less for the HS age spring season due to HS soccer.

100% Agree.

They are running a business. If they can get 18 families to pay a $400 deposit for a bottom team with no coach, they will then go find some unqualified yahoo, pay him peanuts, and then laugh all the way to the bank.

I appreciated Herndon soccer's fee structure. You get less, you pay less. They even charged less for the HS age spring season due to HS soccer.

Haha, we have hired a really great coach but we aren't going to tell you his name until August. Right up there with the girlfriend who lives in canada.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if a coach was identified and listed, who's to say he/she is around by the time season starts. None of these coaches are legally obligated to stay and most have full time jobs outside.

It does happen a lot and it all works out. If I told you Johnny James was to coach your kid and he has 10 years of coaching experience with XYZ club with an UEFA A license. Doesn't mean he's a good coach or right for your kid.

That's a different scenario then the one being discussed, where there is no Johnny James at all.

My point was that even if they told you they had a coach assigned with great credentials, it doesn't guarantee he/she will end up with your kid's team or he/she would be a good fit with your kid. A club of this size will always have a coach once the season starts so I wouldn't worry about the coach. Just my 2 cents.

Why would any club tell you about a coach and not assign him? "A good fit or not", the same could be applied to any new coach or topic.

-We are discussing the determination on expending the dollars for a coach that lives somewhere in the Valor ether universe.

Anonymous wrote:It seems weird to hire a coach for a team the org has already put togather. Don't coaches want to choose their own teams?

You would think. Sorry to say...there's no overarching algorithm Valor developed on how they determine any justified movements among players.

It's the same year over year nebulas process during the tryouts.

Good luck, if you're the bottom coach, sheesh...
-Players from team 1 will remain on team 1.
-If moving age groups, team 2 best players will get taxed to fill in the remaining team 1 roster, so on and so forth until there are no riper tomatoes...

So, what's left?
-3rd-4th-5th teams where there may only be 15-20% that are actually high performing kids out of the roster in each team. To add, they might not see a level 2 team for a while.
-Some leave to tin-cup with other clubs and some decide to stay waiting for those breadcrumbs.

Basically, pay to play, get in line and wait your turn. Hopefully, you don't fall prey to this terrible business practice.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if a coach was identified and listed, who's to say he/she is around by the time season starts. None of these coaches are legally obligated to stay and most have full time jobs outside.

It does happen a lot and it all works out. If I told you Johnny James was to coach your kid and he has 10 years of coaching experience with XYZ club with an UEFA A license. Doesn't mean he's a good coach or right for your kid.

That's a different scenario then the one being discussed, where there is no Johnny James at all.

My point was that even if they told you they had a coach assigned with great credentials, it doesn't guarantee he/she will end up with your kid's team or he/she would be a good fit with your kid. A club of this size will always have a coach once the season starts so I wouldn't worry about the coach. Just my 2 cents.

So you would have no qualms plunking down $3k for a team without a coach?

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Anonymous wrote:Even if a coach was identified and listed, who's to say he/she is around by the time season starts. None of these coaches are legally obligated to stay and most have full time jobs outside.

It does happen a lot and it all works out. If I told you Johnny James was to coach your kid and he has 10 years of coaching experience with XYZ club with an UEFA A license. Doesn't mean he's a good coach or right for your kid.

That's a different scenario then the one being discussed, where there is no Johnny James at all.

My point was that even if they told you they had a coach assigned with great credentials, it doesn't guarantee he/she will end up with your kid's team or he/she would be a good fit with your kid. A club of this size will always have a coach once the season starts so I wouldn't worry about the coach. Just my 2 cents.

It seems weird to hire a coach for a team the org has already put togather. Don't coaches want to choose their own teams?

You are literally paying for the coaching. Of course it matters who the coach is. "The guy could quit anyway so it doesn't matter anyway" is a dumb take.

This late in the hiring "season" for next year, they are probably really scapping the bottom of the barrel for someone. I can't imagine who is possibly left to hire.

Anonymous wrote:Even if a coach was identified and listed, who's to say he/she is around by the time season starts. None of these coaches are legally obligated to stay and most have full time jobs outside.

It does happen a lot and it all works out. If I told you Johnny James was to coach your kid and he has 10 years of coaching experience with XYZ club with an UEFA A license. Doesn't mean he's a good coach or right for your kid.

That's a different scenario then the one being discussed, where there is no Johnny James at all.