Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I doubt the whole Oak Hill would go to KAA. But maybe Emerald Chase goes to South Lakes and the rest of Oak Hill go to KAA.
Remember currently Emerald Chase kids (and Bradley Farm kids south of West Ox) go to Westfield. Moving them to KAA won’t give relief to Chantilly.
I don't take it for granted that Thru and the school board will do what makes sense, but what makes sense is to send Emerald Chase to KAA with the rest of Oak Hill in order to keep pyramids aligned (and, assuming the Franklin Middle School kids get redistricted for Carson, to eliminate a split feeder).
I agree. The school board has an opportunity to build an actual school pyramid with no split feeders with just making a few changes. I hope they don’t find a way to screw that up.
From last night's meeting:
Centerville had three split feeders (Bull Run, Powell ES and Union). They fixes ZERO of these split feeders
Robinson had one split feeder (Oak View). They DID NOT fix this split feeder.
Why are they 'fixing' some split feeders and not others? This was never about fixing split feeders.
Because this map version is highly focused on feedback from the BRAC. The Thru guy at the meeting last night made that very clear. He didn't sound happy about it either.
I can see why- it seems like THRU was a massive waste of time and money. Most of their suggestions were reversed and now we're going with a low fewer minor changes made by someone else (BRAC).
The whole process was never going to work because people are fiercely opposed to having their houses moved to school pyramids with more poor kids. And the loudest people almost always win.
Sure, there are some like that--but mostly people just want to stay where they are.
Anonymous wrote:Bottom line: the borders are strange and split feeders are troubling. However, when you start thinking about how to redraw the boundaries, it becomes clear that there were reasons why they are the way they are.
Boundaries should be changed when needed. Not a county wide fiasco.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I doubt the whole Oak Hill would go to KAA. But maybe Emerald Chase goes to South Lakes and the rest of Oak Hill go to KAA.
Remember currently Emerald Chase kids (and Bradley Farm kids south of West Ox) go to Westfield. Moving them to KAA won’t give relief to Chantilly.
I don't take it for granted that Thru and the school board will do what makes sense, but what makes sense is to send Emerald Chase to KAA with the rest of Oak Hill in order to keep pyramids aligned (and, assuming the Franklin Middle School kids get redistricted for Carson, to eliminate a split feeder).
I agree. The school board has an opportunity to build an actual school pyramid with no split feeders with just making a few changes. I hope they don’t find a way to screw that up.
From last night's meeting:
Centerville had three split feeders (Bull Run, Powell ES and Union). They fixes ZERO of these split feeders
Robinson had one split feeder (Oak View). They DID NOT fix this split feeder.
Why are they 'fixing' some split feeders and not others? This was never about fixing split feeders.
Because this map version is highly focused on feedback from the BRAC. The Thru guy at the meeting last night made that very clear. He didn't sound happy about it either.
I can see why- it seems like THRU was a massive waste of time and money. Most of their suggestions were reversed and now we're going with a low fewer minor changes made by someone else (BRAC).
The whole process was never going to work because people are fiercely opposed to having their houses moved to school pyramids with more poor kids. And the loudest people almost always win.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I doubt the whole Oak Hill would go to KAA. But maybe Emerald Chase goes to South Lakes and the rest of Oak Hill go to KAA.
Remember currently Emerald Chase kids (and Bradley Farm kids south of West Ox) go to Westfield. Moving them to KAA won’t give relief to Chantilly.
I don't take it for granted that Thru and the school board will do what makes sense, but what makes sense is to send Emerald Chase to KAA with the rest of Oak Hill in order to keep pyramids aligned (and, assuming the Franklin Middle School kids get redistricted for Carson, to eliminate a split feeder).
I agree. The school board has an opportunity to build an actual school pyramid with no split feeders with just making a few changes. I hope they don’t find a way to screw that up.
From last night's meeting:
Centerville had three split feeders (Bull Run, Powell ES and Union). They fixes ZERO of these split feeders
Robinson had one split feeder (Oak View). They DID NOT fix this split feeder.
Why are they 'fixing' some split feeders and not others? This was never about fixing split feeders.
Because this map version is highly focused on feedback from the BRAC. The Thru guy at the meeting last night made that very clear. He didn't sound happy about it either.
I can see why- it seems like THRU was a massive waste of time and money. Most of their suggestions were reversed and now we're going with a low fewer minor changes made by someone else (BRAC).
The whole process was never going to work because people are fiercely opposed to having their houses moved to school pyramids with more poor kids. And the loudest people almost always win.
I think they could have done some bolder things if the School Board had told Reid they’d have her back and Thru actually knew what they were doing. But from the start they were focusing on relatively minor adjustments with a view towards moving as few kids as possible to achieve specific objectives of no great significance. It was anything but “the great reset” some thought might happen.
Then the Thru maps came out in May and June with so many obvious problems and they’ve been back-peddling ever since. It’s not clear if anyone has the courage to ask if the juice is even still worth the squeeze but this has been a fiasco.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I doubt the whole Oak Hill would go to KAA. But maybe Emerald Chase goes to South Lakes and the rest of Oak Hill go to KAA.
Remember currently Emerald Chase kids (and Bradley Farm kids south of West Ox) go to Westfield. Moving them to KAA won’t give relief to Chantilly.
I don't take it for granted that Thru and the school board will do what makes sense, but what makes sense is to send Emerald Chase to KAA with the rest of Oak Hill in order to keep pyramids aligned (and, assuming the Franklin Middle School kids get redistricted for Carson, to eliminate a split feeder).
I agree. The school board has an opportunity to build an actual school pyramid with no split feeders with just making a few changes. I hope they don’t find a way to screw that up.
From last night's meeting:
Centerville had three split feeders (Bull Run, Powell ES and Union). They fixes ZERO of these split feeders
Robinson had one split feeder (Oak View). They DID NOT fix this split feeder.
Why are they 'fixing' some split feeders and not others? This was never about fixing split feeders.
Because this map version is highly focused on feedback from the BRAC. The Thru guy at the meeting last night made that very clear. He didn't sound happy about it either.
I can see why- it seems like THRU was a massive waste of time and money. Most of their suggestions were reversed and now we're going with a low fewer minor changes made by someone else (BRAC).
The whole process was never going to work because people are fiercely opposed to having their houses moved to school pyramids with more poor kids. And the loudest people almost always win.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I doubt the whole Oak Hill would go to KAA. But maybe Emerald Chase goes to South Lakes and the rest of Oak Hill go to KAA.
Remember currently Emerald Chase kids (and Bradley Farm kids south of West Ox) go to Westfield. Moving them to KAA won’t give relief to Chantilly.
I don't take it for granted that Thru and the school board will do what makes sense, but what makes sense is to send Emerald Chase to KAA with the rest of Oak Hill in order to keep pyramids aligned (and, assuming the Franklin Middle School kids get redistricted for Carson, to eliminate a split feeder).
I agree. The school board has an opportunity to build an actual school pyramid with no split feeders with just making a few changes. I hope they don’t find a way to screw that up.
From last night's meeting:
Centerville had three split feeders (Bull Run, Powell ES and Union). They fixes ZERO of these split feeders
Robinson had one split feeder (Oak View). They DID NOT fix this split feeder.
Why are they 'fixing' some split feeders and not others? This was never about fixing split feeders.
Because this map version is highly focused on feedback from the BRAC. The Thru guy at the meeting last night made that very clear. He didn't sound happy about it either.
I can see why- it seems like THRU was a massive waste of time and money. Most of their suggestions were reversed and now we're going with a low fewer minor changes made by someone else (BRAC).
The whole process was never going to work because people are fiercely opposed to having their houses moved to school pyramids with more poor kids. And the loudest people almost always win.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I doubt the whole Oak Hill would go to KAA. But maybe Emerald Chase goes to South Lakes and the rest of Oak Hill go to KAA.
Remember currently Emerald Chase kids (and Bradley Farm kids south of West Ox) go to Westfield. Moving them to KAA won’t give relief to Chantilly.
I don't take it for granted that Thru and the school board will do what makes sense, but what makes sense is to send Emerald Chase to KAA with the rest of Oak Hill in order to keep pyramids aligned (and, assuming the Franklin Middle School kids get redistricted for Carson, to eliminate a split feeder).
I agree. The school board has an opportunity to build an actual school pyramid with no split feeders with just making a few changes. I hope they don’t find a way to screw that up.
From last night's meeting:
Centerville had three split feeders (Bull Run, Powell ES and Union). They fixes ZERO of these split feeders
Robinson had one split feeder (Oak View). They DID NOT fix this split feeder.
Why are they 'fixing' some split feeders and not others? This was never about fixing split feeders.
Because this map version is highly focused on feedback from the BRAC. The Thru guy at the meeting last night made that very clear. He didn't sound happy about it either.
I can see why- it seems like THRU was a massive waste of time and money. Most of their suggestions were reversed and now we're going with a low fewer minor changes made by someone else (BRAC).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I doubt the whole Oak Hill would go to KAA. But maybe Emerald Chase goes to South Lakes and the rest of Oak Hill go to KAA.
Remember currently Emerald Chase kids (and Bradley Farm kids south of West Ox) go to Westfield. Moving them to KAA won’t give relief to Chantilly.
I don't take it for granted that Thru and the school board will do what makes sense, but what makes sense is to send Emerald Chase to KAA with the rest of Oak Hill in order to keep pyramids aligned (and, assuming the Franklin Middle School kids get redistricted for Carson, to eliminate a split feeder).
I agree. The school board has an opportunity to build an actual school pyramid with no split feeders with just making a few changes. I hope they don’t find a way to screw that up.
From last night's meeting:
Centerville had three split feeders (Bull Run, Powell ES and Union). They fixes ZERO of these split feeders
Robinson had one split feeder (Oak View). They DID NOT fix this split feeder.
Why are they 'fixing' some split feeders and not others? This was never about fixing split feeders.
Because this map version is highly focused on feedback from the BRAC. The Thru guy at the meeting last night made that very clear. He didn't sound happy about it either.
I could not care less if he wasn't happy. His outfit was the one that came up with ridiculous scenarios that would move kids living next door to Marshall to McLean and next door to Westgate to Franklin Sherman, create a new, lopsided split feeder at Shrevewood, and even now leave Marshall with a ridiculous Westbriar attendance island out near Reston even after many families asked to move to closer Colvin Run. And we're still paying them for this garbage.
If the quality of Thru's earlier work had been better, we wouldn't have what we now have, which are basically a limited number of changes largely intended to allow the School Board to wrap up this turd and move on to the next great thing.
did they propose to move westbriar to wolftrap and westbriar didn’t like that? they just want colvin run?
For some reason they objected to moving to Wolftrap, and the Region 5 representatives on the BRAC asked Thru to model moving the Westbriar island to Colvin Run-Cooper-Langley. Thru just left the island alone but with other proposed changes it’s now a Kilmer and Marshall island as well as a Westbriar island.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I doubt the whole Oak Hill would go to KAA. But maybe Emerald Chase goes to South Lakes and the rest of Oak Hill go to KAA.
Remember currently Emerald Chase kids (and Bradley Farm kids south of West Ox) go to Westfield. Moving them to KAA won’t give relief to Chantilly.
I don't take it for granted that Thru and the school board will do what makes sense, but what makes sense is to send Emerald Chase to KAA with the rest of Oak Hill in order to keep pyramids aligned (and, assuming the Franklin Middle School kids get redistricted for Carson, to eliminate a split feeder).
I agree. The school board has an opportunity to build an actual school pyramid with no split feeders with just making a few changes. I hope they don’t find a way to screw that up.
From last night's meeting:
Centerville had three split feeders (Bull Run, Powell ES and Union). They fixes ZERO of these split feeders
Robinson had one split feeder (Oak View). They DID NOT fix this split feeder.
Why are they 'fixing' some split feeders and not others? This was never about fixing split feeders.
Because this map version is highly focused on feedback from the BRAC. The Thru guy at the meeting last night made that very clear. He didn't sound happy about it either.
I could not care less if he wasn't happy. His outfit was the one that came up with ridiculous scenarios that would move kids living next door to Marshall to McLean and next door to Westgate to Franklin Sherman, create a new, lopsided split feeder at Shrevewood, and even now leave Marshall with a ridiculous Westbriar attendance island out near Reston even after many families asked to move to closer Colvin Run. And we're still paying them for this garbage.
If the quality of Thru's earlier work had been better, we wouldn't have what we now have, which are basically a limited number of changes largely intended to allow the School Board to wrap up this turd and move on to the next great thing.
did they propose to move westbriar to wolftrap and westbriar didn’t like that? they just want colvin run?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I doubt the whole Oak Hill would go to KAA. But maybe Emerald Chase goes to South Lakes and the rest of Oak Hill go to KAA.
Remember currently Emerald Chase kids (and Bradley Farm kids south of West Ox) go to Westfield. Moving them to KAA won’t give relief to Chantilly.
I don't take it for granted that Thru and the school board will do what makes sense, but what makes sense is to send Emerald Chase to KAA with the rest of Oak Hill in order to keep pyramids aligned (and, assuming the Franklin Middle School kids get redistricted for Carson, to eliminate a split feeder).
I agree. The school board has an opportunity to build an actual school pyramid with no split feeders with just making a few changes. I hope they don’t find a way to screw that up.
From last night's meeting:
Centerville had three split feeders (Bull Run, Powell ES and Union). They fixes ZERO of these split feeders
Robinson had one split feeder (Oak View). They DID NOT fix this split feeder.
Why are they 'fixing' some split feeders and not others? This was never about fixing split feeders.
Because this map version is highly focused on feedback from the BRAC. The Thru guy at the meeting last night made that very clear. He didn't sound happy about it either.
I could not care less if he wasn't happy. His outfit was the one that came up with ridiculous scenarios that would move kids living next door to Marshall to McLean and next door to Westgate to Franklin Sherman, create a new, lopsided split feeder at Shrevewood, and even now leave Marshall with a ridiculous Westbriar attendance island out near Reston even after many families asked to move to closer Colvin Run. And we're still paying them for this garbage.
If the quality of Thru's earlier work had been better, we wouldn't have what we now have, which are basically a limited number of changes largely intended to allow the School Board to wrap up this turd and move on to the next great thing.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is there evidence of the donor connection that can be brought up at the boundary meeting ?
I am not a fan of that particular school board rep, but that accusation is either an unfounded rumor, or a poorly worded sarcasm attempt that got picked up online and stuck.
I don't want to add fuel to the fire on this one, but I actually heard the 'donor' is a wealthy attorney in Sandy's neighborhood who pushed FCPS to have every single holiday off.
Sandy's neighborhood is not Rolling Valley.
I am not a fan of that rep.
But there needs to be proof before pushing a serious, unfounded rumor like this.
I agree that her fixation on that Rolling Valley neighborhood is absurd.
That neighborhood going to WSHS from Lewis was not on any of the maps.
It was not on any of the Brac committee recommendations from a few weeks ago.
It was not something that the Franconia school board rep is asking for, or something the Lewis community needs.
The numbers used are ignoring all the high school students from that neighborhood who pupil place out of Lewis to LB, Edison, SoCo or other schools, so they are inaccurate and undercounted.
Based on the overcrowding at WSHS, rezoning this neighborhood does not make sense, especially since neither Thru nor BRAC recommended it.
Based on geography, the move does make sense, but then we circle back to overcrowding at WSHS and underenrollment at Lewis, and it ceases to make sense.
I think though that without proof, to keep repeating that rumor is at best, unhelpful, even though the whole laser sharp fixation on getting that Lewis neighborhood from Lewis to WSHS has been SAs #1 priority since the school board started revising policy 8130 over a year ago, amd likely the reason why Anderson pushed so hard for this county wide rezoning.
But it was. Read priority 7 from region 6:
https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2025-09/advisory_priority_analysis_-_region_6_9-8_update_epg1_0.pdf
Wasn't priority 7 below other priorities asking to move more kids into Lewis?
Skipping priorities 1-6 and jumping to priority 7 is a slap in the face to Lewis families.
Agreed. Also, who writes the 'Analysis of Recommendation' columns in the linked PDF? They're literally saying the quiet part out loud that WSHS is good, Lewis is cr*p, but what ARE THEY DOING TO FIX IT????
"Advisory Update 9/8/25 o It’s worth noting that for priority #6 and the accompanying proposed map that was submitted, that we are not committed to that specific neighborhood, and understand that new boundary proposals for ANY neighborhood from WS into Lewis would create massive uproar and don’t significantly address over/under capacity issues at WS/Lewis"
And how would shifting neighborhoods not fix capacity issues? Do they assume everyone would just try to transfer back into WSHS?
If it doesn’t have a change log line associated with it, THRU did not do it. And in many cases, they saw the word “revert” and undid the changes without implementing any other recommendations.
They are clearly over the process. Remember Parklawn? The other elementary school which had their 2024-25 boundary study canceled along with Coates. They were supposed to be prioritized in the adjustment. Look at scenario 4. Boundaries are exactly the same as they exist today.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is there evidence of the donor connection that can be brought up at the boundary meeting ?
I am not a fan of that particular school board rep, but that accusation is either an unfounded rumor, or a poorly worded sarcasm attempt that got picked up online and stuck.
I don't want to add fuel to the fire on this one, but I actually heard the 'donor' is a wealthy attorney in Sandy's neighborhood who pushed FCPS to have every single holiday off.
Sandy's neighborhood is not Rolling Valley.
I am not a fan of that rep.
But there needs to be proof before pushing a serious, unfounded rumor like this.
I agree that her fixation on that Rolling Valley neighborhood is absurd.
That neighborhood going to WSHS from Lewis was not on any of the maps.
It was not on any of the Brac committee recommendations from a few weeks ago.
It was not something that the Franconia school board rep is asking for, or something the Lewis community needs.
The numbers used are ignoring all the high school students from that neighborhood who pupil place out of Lewis to LB, Edison, SoCo or other schools, so they are inaccurate and undercounted.
Based on the overcrowding at WSHS, rezoning this neighborhood does not make sense, especially since neither Thru nor BRAC recommended it.
Based on geography, the move does make sense, but then we circle back to overcrowding at WSHS and underenrollment at Lewis, and it ceases to make sense.
I think though that without proof, to keep repeating that rumor is at best, unhelpful, even though the whole laser sharp fixation on getting that Lewis neighborhood from Lewis to WSHS has been SAs #1 priority since the school board started revising policy 8130 over a year ago, amd likely the reason why Anderson pushed so hard for this county wide rezoning.
But it was. Read priority 7 from region 6:
https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2025-09/advisory_priority_analysis_-_region_6_9-8_update_epg1_0.pdf
Wasn't priority 7 below other priorities asking to move more kids into Lewis?
Skipping priorities 1-6 and jumping to priority 7 is a slap in the face to Lewis families.
Agreed. Also, who writes the 'Analysis of Recommendation' columns in the linked PDF? They're literally saying the quiet part out loud that WSHS is good, Lewis is cr*p, but what ARE THEY DOING TO FIX IT????
"Advisory Update 9/8/25 o It’s worth noting that for priority #6 and the accompanying proposed map that was submitted, that we are not committed to that specific neighborhood, and understand that new boundary proposals for ANY neighborhood from WS into Lewis would create massive uproar and don’t significantly address over/under capacity issues at WS/Lewis"
And how would shifting neighborhoods not fix capacity issues? Do they assume everyone would just try to transfer back into WSHS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is there evidence of the donor connection that can be brought up at the boundary meeting ?
I am not a fan of that particular school board rep, but that accusation is either an unfounded rumor, or a poorly worded sarcasm attempt that got picked up online and stuck.
I don't want to add fuel to the fire on this one, but I actually heard the 'donor' is a wealthy attorney in Sandy's neighborhood who pushed FCPS to have every single holiday off.
Sandy's neighborhood is not Rolling Valley.
I am not a fan of that rep.
But there needs to be proof before pushing a serious, unfounded rumor like this.
I agree that her fixation on that Rolling Valley neighborhood is absurd.
That neighborhood going to WSHS from Lewis was not on any of the maps.
It was not on any of the Brac committee recommendations from a few weeks ago.
It was not something that the Franconia school board rep is asking for, or something the Lewis community needs.
The numbers used are ignoring all the high school students from that neighborhood who pupil place out of Lewis to LB, Edison, SoCo or other schools, so they are inaccurate and undercounted.
Based on the overcrowding at WSHS, rezoning this neighborhood does not make sense, especially since neither Thru nor BRAC recommended it.
Based on geography, the move does make sense, but then we circle back to overcrowding at WSHS and underenrollment at Lewis, and it ceases to make sense.
I think though that without proof, to keep repeating that rumor is at best, unhelpful, even though the whole laser sharp fixation on getting that Lewis neighborhood from Lewis to WSHS has been SAs #1 priority since the school board started revising policy 8130 over a year ago, amd likely the reason why Anderson pushed so hard for this county wide rezoning.
But it was. Read priority 7 from region 6:
https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2025-09/advisory_priority_analysis_-_region_6_9-8_update_epg1_0.pdf
Wasn't priority 7 below other priorities asking to move more kids into Lewis?
Skipping priorities 1-6 and jumping to priority 7 is a slap in the face to Lewis families.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are we really supposed to believe there’s a $$$ donor to Sandy Anderson living in those townhouses? Come on, they’d have bought a SFH elsewhere in the first place if they had enough money to do that.
You're believing someone who had a vendetta against Sandy Anderson. There is one person who just hates her and goes on and on and sock puppets about it. It's a lie.
Is it a lie? Are you sure?
Even so, what is the actual justification for moving that neighborhood? You're moving it from an underenrolled school to one with capacity issues.