Anonymous
Post 04/20/2026 18:02     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:The bigger problem is this administration's negotiating strategy. The only thing they know is dominance politics and don't understand that past behavior matters. This is not a real estate deal.


It kind is a real estate deal
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2026 17:55     Subject: War with Iran Part II
The bigger problem is this administration's negotiating strategy. The only thing they know is dominance politics and don't understand that past behavior matters. This is not a real estate deal.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2026 17:36     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:Because of America and Israel choosing this war, Iran has taken control of the Strait of Hormuz. Which was free and open two months ago.

Iran is not going to give that up now. The US and Israel gave Iran the justification to take control of 20 percent of the world's oil, liquified natural gas, and fertilizer. Iran now controls the price of everything. Netanyahu and Trump gifted Iran with some serious power.

The US will have to give up its bases in the Gulf countries, pay reparations, and accept Iran controls the Straight. The uranium is incidental. Iran has been clear for decades that it's no North Korea, and won't go all in for nukes.

This has been a huge win for Iran. Not because the US military is weak, but because there hasn't been any strategy about anything. Just idiot policymakers making it up as we go along.


The US and Israel’s position is similar to being in a casino and losing your money on a stupid bet. Now the US and Israel are trying to get their money back after the casino has it. Ain’t going to happen.

Iran controls the strait, has home grown missiles systems, can break US sanction by allowing tankers of countries who trade with them to pass, has enriched material, etc. These are facts on the ground. You made a bet you could take down the casino but somehow you lost all your money. You ain’t getting the money back.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2026 17:32     Subject: War with Iran Part II
When the us takes over Iran can we use the oil and sell it right away or is this another Venezuela situation? Only serious oil production answers please
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2026 17:28     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since it's not our war nor do we have any power to negotiate then why not let Netanyahu and Ayatollah Jr negotiate it directly under Pakistan's supervision? Why send poor JD back to pretend he can make decisions?
Since JD is likely to be our next president, this is an opportunity to show the world he is the man for the job.


lol it is the kiss of death for JD. Any deal will not be good enough for the pro Israeli crowd and maga will be pissed he carried Israel water. All the US demands on Iran are straight from the Israel and not in the US interests.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2026 17:27     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since it's not our war nor do we have any power to negotiate then why not let Netanyahu and Ayatollah Jr negotiate it directly under Pakistan's supervision? Why send poor JD back to pretend he can make decisions?
Since JD is likely to be our next president, this is an opportunity to show the world he is the man for the job.


JD doesn’t even believe that.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2026 17:16     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:Why aren't we sending Rubio? Isn't he United States's Secretary of State or got fired? Why are we sending friends and family to negotiate WW3?


Rubio is checked out. Look at his eyes. He's dead inside. And the Trump and Netanyahu people want Kushner and Witkoff to be the primary negotiators. For reasons. Vance is only there because Iranians insisted on it.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2026 17:08     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:Since it's not our war nor do we have any power to negotiate then why not let Netanyahu and Ayatollah Jr negotiate it directly under Pakistan's supervision? Why send poor JD back to pretend he can make decisions?
Since JD is likely to be our next president, this is an opportunity to show the world he is the man for the job.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2026 16:57     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Since it's not our war nor do we have any power to negotiate then why not let Netanyahu and Ayatollah Jr negotiate it directly under Pakistan's supervision? Why send poor JD back to pretend he can make decisions?
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2026 16:49     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Why aren't we sending Rubio? Isn't he United States's Secretary of State or got fired? Why are we sending friends and family to negotiate WW3?
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2026 16:32     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump-Iran is what happens when you have the bluster of a malignant narcissist trying to operate a junta in the US rather than relying on the decades of experts and resources that have since been fired from service.

The fact that Witkoff, Kushner and Vance are the "negotiation team" is just a sad and sorry state of affairs.



Iran wanted Vance to be part of the team still Vance was calling Bibi during negotiation.



Source? Why would Iran have Vance there if he's just answering back to Netanyahu


Iran was angry at Kushner and Witkoff because of the repeated assasinations during negotiations. It's fair to say that those were untrustworthy acts. They wanted somebody new on the US side but misread internal Trump politics.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2026 16:30     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:Because of America and Israel choosing this war, Iran has taken control of the Strait of Hormuz. Which was free and open two months ago.

Iran is not going to give that up now. The US and Israel gave Iran the justification to take control of 20 percent of the world's oil, liquified natural gas, and fertilizer. Iran now controls the price of everything. Netanyahu and Trump gifted Iran with some serious power.

The US will have to give up its bases in the Gulf countries, pay reparations, and accept Iran controls the Straight. The uranium is incidental. Iran has been clear for decades that it's no North Korea, and won't go all in for nukes.

This has been a huge win for Iran. Not because the US military is weak, but because there hasn't been any strategy about anything. Just idiot policymakers making it up as we go along.


They gifted Iran power greater than a nuclear bomb.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2026 16:27     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Because of America and Israel choosing this war, Iran has taken control of the Strait of Hormuz. Which was free and open two months ago.

Iran is not going to give that up now. The US and Israel gave Iran the justification to take control of 20 percent of the world's oil, liquified natural gas, and fertilizer. Iran now controls the price of everything. Netanyahu and Trump gifted Iran with some serious power.

The US will have to give up its bases in the Gulf countries, pay reparations, and accept Iran controls the Straight. The uranium is incidental. Iran has been clear for decades that it's no North Korea, and won't go all in for nukes.

This has been a huge win for Iran. Not because the US military is weak, but because there hasn't been any strategy about anything. Just idiot policymakers making it up as we go along.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2026 15:51     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“In his latest Truth Social post, US president Donald Trump said the country would not lift its blockade of Iranian ports until Iran has agreed to a deal.

“THE BLOCKADE, which we will not take off until there is a ‘DEAL,’ is absolutely destroying Iran,” Trump wrote.

“They are losing $500m Dollars a day, an unsustainable number, even in the short run,” he said.

In a separate post, he criticised the US media – naming the “failing” New York Times, the “disgusting” Wall Street Journal and the “almost defunct” Washington Post. He accused these outlets of sabotaging the US war effort by causing Tehran to be “confused”.

Oh honey it’s you that are confused, bumbling old man

Iran holds all the cards and now Trump is big mad


Yep, Iran's just going to wait him out. They'll suffer, but they'll just deal with it because they're playing for the long-term. Since Trump can't achieve a military victory, all he has left is continued terrorism and piracy. Not sure how long that can go on.


Yep, Iran has a path to victory which is causing gas prices to remain high in the US until Republicans are thrown out of office. I'm sure they will "surrender" to very favorable conditions right before midterms.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2026 15:33     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:“In his latest Truth Social post, US president Donald Trump said the country would not lift its blockade of Iranian ports until Iran has agreed to a deal.

“THE BLOCKADE, which we will not take off until there is a ‘DEAL,’ is absolutely destroying Iran,” Trump wrote.

“They are losing $500m Dollars a day, an unsustainable number, even in the short run,” he said.

In a separate post, he criticised the US media – naming the “failing” New York Times, the “disgusting” Wall Street Journal and the “almost defunct” Washington Post. He accused these outlets of sabotaging the US war effort by causing Tehran to be “confused”.

Oh honey it’s you that are confused, bumbling old man

Iran holds all the cards and now Trump is big mad


Yep, Iran's just going to wait him out. They'll suffer, but they'll just deal with it because they're playing for the long-term. Since Trump can't achieve a military victory, all he has left is continued terrorism and piracy. Not sure how long that can go on.