Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 00:18     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
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Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Johns Hopkins is a member of the B1G lacrosse league and is a member if the CIC.


Johns Hopkins University is continually the leader in R&D expenditures while U Michigan seems to always be #3 behind UC-San Francisco medical research.

JHU's 2021 R&D expenditures were an incredible $3,181,385,000--almost twice as much as third place research powerhouse University of Washington at Seattle.


2 billion of that is from JHUAPL which has very little to actually do with JHU proper. It really shouldn’t be combined. I’ve worked for APL for close to 20 years and I’ve met exactly one JHU professor in that time.


I concur. It’s really a federal scientific agency and not an academic division that JHU gets credit for. It’s entirely funded by the US government and employs 8,000 people.


I wonder if the same is true of Cal and Lawrence Berkely National Lab? (They also share in the management contract for Lawrence Livermore & Los Alamos).

It also looks like one way to get your R&D numbers up is to operate a big research hospital system. Which is probably why Texas just announced the construction of a new research hospital in Austin in partnership with MD Anderson.


Austin is growing in leaps and bounds. It completely makes sense for UT Austin to be building a new research hospital there.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 00:16     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I can’t believe is that there are now 3 new pages on the Big10. Today is ACC depart day. People have been predicting the departure. Where are they to say we were wrong. Or say they will leave next year which is simply not true. Where are the people who say it was just money and the GOR can just be broken. Where are the people who said the SEC or the Big10 even wanted FSU because the press now indicates that neither conference wants them.

People have been talking stupid here all week and now they just move on to Big10?


There is zero chance FSU and others stay in the ACC until 2036. The ACC benefits 6-7 schools willing to take a check but not invest in athletics. Just because FSU and others did not announce today does not mean that they are not working towards that goal or that the GOR cannot be broken. It is not a matter of what the BIG or SEC wants. It is what the tv companies want. They don't want to pay for free riders schools whether they have good academics. See Cal and Stanford.


I’ve heard that Clemson is fine with staying in the ACC. They have done well in the rankings and accessing the CFB playoffs without having to get their heads beaten in by Georgia and Alabama (or in the alternative, Michigan and Ohio State) during the regular season. They’ll stay in the ACC and happily play Georgia Tech and Duke. FSU’s problem is that they have spent more than Clemson on football and have nothing to show for it. They have to blame being in the ACC, because otherwise they’d have to admit that it’s their own fault.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 00:05     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Johns Hopkins is a member of the B1G lacrosse league and is a member if the CIC.


Johns Hopkins University is continually the leader in R&D expenditures while U Michigan seems to always be #3 behind UC-San Francisco medical research.

JHU's 2021 R&D expenditures were an incredible $3,181,385,000--almost twice as much as third place research powerhouse University of Washington at Seattle.


2 billion of that is from JHUAPL which has very little to actually do with JHU proper. It really shouldn’t be combined. I’ve worked for APL for close to 20 years and I’ve met exactly one JHU professor in that time.


I concur. It’s really a federal scientific agency and not an academic division that JHU gets credit for. It’s entirely funded by the US government and employs 8,000 people.


I wonder if the same is true of Cal and Lawrence Berkely National Lab? (They also share in the management contract for Lawrence Livermore & Los Alamos).

It also looks like one way to get your R&D numbers up is to operate a big research hospital system. Which is probably why Texas just announced the construction of a new research hospital in Austin in partnership with MD Anderson.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 23:13     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:What I can’t believe is that there are now 3 new pages on the Big10. Today is ACC depart day. People have been predicting the departure. Where are they to say we were wrong. Or say they will leave next year which is simply not true. Where are the people who say it was just money and the GOR can just be broken. Where are the people who said the SEC or the Big10 even wanted FSU because the press now indicates that neither conference wants them.

People have been talking stupid here all week and now they just move on to Big10?


There is zero chance FSU and others stay in the ACC until 2036. The ACC benefits 6-7 schools willing to take a check but not invest in athletics. Just because FSU and others did not announce today does not mean that they are not working towards that goal or that the GOR cannot be broken. It is not a matter of what the BIG or SEC wants. It is what the tv companies want. They don't want to pay for free riders schools whether they have good academics. See Cal and Stanford.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 21:19     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Johns Hopkins is a member of the B1G lacrosse league and is a member if the CIC.


Johns Hopkins University is continually the leader in R&D expenditures while U Michigan seems to always be #3 behind UC-San Francisco medical research.

JHU's 2021 R&D expenditures were an incredible $3,181,385,000--almost twice as much as third place research powerhouse University of Washington at Seattle.


2 billion of that is from JHUAPL which has very little to actually do with JHU proper. It really shouldn’t be combined. I’ve worked for APL for close to 20 years and I’ve met exactly one JHU professor in that time.


I concur. It’s really a federal scientific agency and not an academic division that JHU gets credit for. It’s entirely funded by the US government and employs 8,000 people.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 21:07     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Johns Hopkins is a member of the B1G lacrosse league and is a member if the CIC.


Johns Hopkins University is continually the leader in R&D expenditures while U Michigan seems to always be #3 behind UC-San Francisco medical research.

JHU's 2021 R&D expenditures were an incredible $3,181,385,000--almost twice as much as third place research powerhouse University of Washington at Seattle.


2 billion of that is from JHUAPL which has very little to actually do with JHU proper. It really shouldn’t be combined. I’ve worked for APL for close to 20 years and I’ve met exactly one JHU professor in that time.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 20:57     Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Everything will be better on August 26, 2023 at 2:30 EST.

Notre Dame v. Navy in Dublin, Ireland. ND favored by 20 to 21 points. Could be an upset.

Notre Dame has not concluded negotiations with NBC yet.

September 23, 2023. The big game. Ohio State at Notre Dame.

Maybe NBC wants to see the results of these two games before agreeing to a final figure to the broadcast rights to Notre Dame home games.

Plus, Stanford football is homeless. Could affect the value & viewership of future Stanford v. Notre Dame games.


There wasn't much value to begin with. Starting in 2024, it will have only ND viewers as no one cares about Stanford football.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 18:34     Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Everything will be better on August 26, 2023 at 2:30 EST.

Notre Dame v. Navy in Dublin, Ireland. ND favored by 20 to 21 points. Could be an upset.

Notre Dame has not concluded negotiations with NBC yet.

September 23, 2023. The big game. Ohio State at Notre Dame.

Maybe NBC wants to see the results of these two games before agreeing to a final figure to the broadcast rights to Notre Dame home games.

Plus, Stanford football is homeless. Could affect the value & viewership of future Stanford v. Notre Dame games.


Notre Dame has a problem.

If they want to join a conference it has to be the ACC until 2036. They don’t really have any leverage and the other networks are tapped out. NBC can lower their offer until there is a breaking point.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 17:48     Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Everything will be better on August 26, 2023 at 2:30 EST.

Notre Dame v. Navy in Dublin, Ireland. ND favored by 20 to 21 points. Could be an upset.

Notre Dame has not concluded negotiations with NBC yet.

September 23, 2023. The big game. Ohio State at Notre Dame.

Maybe NBC wants to see the results of these two games before agreeing to a final figure to the broadcast rights to Notre Dame home games.

Plus, Stanford football is homeless. Could affect the value & viewership of future Stanford v. Notre Dame games.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 17:38     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would the Big Ten ever want FSU?


I think they would have if they acted with class like Clemson has. FSU really exposed itself as a low budget operation. 1) they look not so bright signing the GOR 2) they panic, talk trash and foam at the mouth like a trapped animal 3) they are a terrible partner with their conference peers and are weaseling to throw the conference under the bus in a seething fit.

Not B1G material.


They are not an AAU member. Not going to get invited.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 17:34     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Why would the Big Ten ever want FSU?


I think they would have if they acted with class like Clemson has. FSU really exposed itself as a low budget operation. 1) they look not so bright signing the GOR 2) they panic, talk trash and foam at the mouth like a trapped animal 3) they are a terrible partner with their conference peers and are weaseling to throw the conference under the bus in a seething fit.

Not B1G material.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 17:22     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Why would the Big Ten ever want FSU?
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 17:21     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
What I can’t believe is that there are now 3 new pages on the Big10. Today is ACC depart day. People have been predicting the departure. Where are they to say we were wrong. Or say they will leave next year which is simply not true. Where are the people who say it was just money and the GOR can just be broken. Where are the people who said the SEC or the Big10 even wanted FSU because the press now indicates that neither conference wants them.

People have been talking stupid here all week and now they just move on to Big10?
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 16:13     Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
https://cbssports.com/college-football/news/options-dwindling-as-california-stanford-oregon-state-washington-state-prepare-to-take-financial-hits/
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 16:10     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous
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For what it is worth, Johns Hopkins is a member of the B1G lacrosse league and is a member if the CIC.


“Johns Hopkins University is continually the leader in R&D expenditures while U Michigan seems to always be #3 behind UC-San Francisco medical research.”

Your statement is incorrect. Michigan had been #2 in R&D for many years behind Hopkins. This is the first time I’ve seen UCSF overtake it.


Just checked. Yes, you are correct that UC-San Francisco (medical research) just moved into second place above Michigan which had been in second place for at least several years prior to 2021.

Thank you.