Netflix pays better than the others but has bad benefits.

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Anonymous wrote:wow this thread is eye opening. It makes me feel underpaid. I have 15 yoe and I'm making only $250k at a local company.
I'm getting paid less than new grads? I'm sending my application for a job at a FAANG tomorrow.

Depending on your skills, you may not may more. Some of these salaries are exaggerated.

Not exaggerated. Not just FAANG but random unicorn startups pay 150-250k to fresh grads and 4-5 yoe can make over 300k. There’s a few dozen companies like this. The down side for someone with decades of experience outside big tech is that you may get treated the same as someone right out of school. I see some folks who are 10-20 yoe at a no name and they are given a junior position

Yeah but even if you have experience and skills if you are older than 35 unless you have a close contact sponsoring you, you won’t ever make the cut.

Huh?

Age discrimination

Not at 35 or even 45.

You're talking through your ass.

If you aren’t ALREADY in the Valley by 35, unless you are a founder of a successful startup or some extreme edge case, you aren’t getting a job at a FAANG. Worked for years on algorithms at APL as a staff programmer and can easily do the role of a full stack SDE, they will not give you time of day.

Possibly I know a guy who looks to be in his late 30s or 40s and he just got hired by facebook. If they do discriminate how the heck haven't they been getting sued left and right

Its not age, it’s pedigree. The folks who were in the valley at 20 worked at FAANG, or at some other hot startup from back then, maybe eBay or more recently betterment or Uber or Doordash or instacart or wealthfront or Palantir or 23andme or whatever. Those folks apply to FAANG and have pedigree. The random applying to work there from Dumbledore COBOL Programming or whatever isn’t going to get light of day. Old or young.

Right. But they hire some random 20 year old from SJ State over an experienced SDE, and COBOL is radically more sophisticated programming skill than JavaScript and Python. Modern languages are essentially the pseudocode we learned in CS 101 put into production. No need for garbage collection or memory leaks, dealing pointers vs references, variable scoping, etc. it’s sooo simple, you are building on the backs of giants.

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Anonymous wrote:wow this thread is eye opening. It makes me feel underpaid. I have 15 yoe and I'm making only $250k at a local company.
I'm getting paid less than new grads? I'm sending my application for a job at a FAANG tomorrow.

Depending on your skills, you may not may more. Some of these salaries are exaggerated.

Not exaggerated. Not just FAANG but random unicorn startups pay 150-250k to fresh grads and 4-5 yoe can make over 300k. There’s a few dozen companies like this. The down side for someone with decades of experience outside big tech is that you may get treated the same as someone right out of school. I see some folks who are 10-20 yoe at a no name and they are given a junior position

Yeah but even if you have experience and skills if you are older than 35 unless you have a close contact sponsoring you, you won’t ever make the cut.

Huh?

Age discrimination

Not at 35 or even 45.

You're talking through your ass.

If you aren’t ALREADY in the Valley by 35, unless you are a founder of a successful startup or some extreme edge case, you aren’t getting a job at a FAANG. Worked for years on algorithms at APL as a staff programmer and can easily do the role of a full stack SDE, they will not give you time of day.

Possibly I know a guy who looks to be in his late 30s or 40s and he just got hired by facebook. If they do discriminate how the heck haven't they been getting sued left and right

Its not age, it’s pedigree. The folks who were in the valley at 20 worked at FAANG, or at some other hot startup from back then, maybe eBay or more recently betterment or Uber or Doordash or instacart or wealthfront or Palantir or 23andme or whatever. Those folks apply to FAANG and have pedigree. The random applying to work there from Dumbledore COBOL Programming or whatever isn’t going to get light of day. Old or young.

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Anonymous wrote:wow this thread is eye opening. It makes me feel underpaid. I have 15 yoe and I'm making only $250k at a local company.
I'm getting paid less than new grads? I'm sending my application for a job at a FAANG tomorrow.

Depending on your skills, you may not may more. Some of these salaries are exaggerated.

Not exaggerated. Not just FAANG but random unicorn startups pay 150-250k to fresh grads and 4-5 yoe can make over 300k. There’s a few dozen companies like this. The down side for someone with decades of experience outside big tech is that you may get treated the same as someone right out of school. I see some folks who are 10-20 yoe at a no name and they are given a junior position

Yeah but even if you have experience and skills if you are older than 35 unless you have a close contact sponsoring you, you won’t ever make the cut.

Huh?

Age discrimination

Not at 35 or even 45.

You're talking through your ass.

If you aren’t ALREADY in the Valley by 35, unless you are a founder of a successful startup or some extreme edge case, you aren’t getting a job at a FAANG. Worked for years on algorithms at APL as a staff programmer and can easily do the role of a full stack SDE, they will not give you time of day.

Possibly I know a guy who looks to be in his late 30s or 40s and he just got hired by facebook. If they do discriminate how the heck haven't they been getting sued left and right

Its not universally true. I know a handful of people at two FAANG companies that landed their roles at 40+ one at 50+.

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Anonymous wrote:wow this thread is eye opening. It makes me feel underpaid. I have 15 yoe and I'm making only $250k at a local company.
I'm getting paid less than new grads? I'm sending my application for a job at a FAANG tomorrow.

Depending on your skills, you may not may more. Some of these salaries are exaggerated.

Not exaggerated. Not just FAANG but random unicorn startups pay 150-250k to fresh grads and 4-5 yoe can make over 300k. There’s a few dozen companies like this. The down side for someone with decades of experience outside big tech is that you may get treated the same as someone right out of school. I see some folks who are 10-20 yoe at a no name and they are given a junior position

Yeah but even if you have experience and skills if you are older than 35 unless you have a close contact sponsoring you, you won’t ever make the cut.

Huh?

Age discrimination

Not at 35 or even 45.

You're talking through your ass.

If you aren’t ALREADY in the Valley by 35, unless you are a founder of a successful startup or some extreme edge case, you aren’t getting a job at a FAANG. Worked for years on algorithms at APL as a staff programmer and can easily do the role of a full stack SDE, they will not give you time of day.

Possibly I know a guy who looks to be in his late 30s or 40s and he just got hired by facebook. If they do discriminate how the heck haven't they been getting sued left and right

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Anonymous wrote:wow this thread is eye opening. It makes me feel underpaid. I have 15 yoe and I'm making only $250k at a local company.
I'm getting paid less than new grads? I'm sending my application for a job at a FAANG tomorrow.

Depending on your skills, you may not may more. Some of these salaries are exaggerated.

Not exaggerated. Not just FAANG but random unicorn startups pay 150-250k to fresh grads and 4-5 yoe can make over 300k. There’s a few dozen companies like this. The down side for someone with decades of experience outside big tech is that you may get treated the same as someone right out of school. I see some folks who are 10-20 yoe at a no name and they are given a junior position

Yeah but even if you have experience and skills if you are older than 35 unless you have a close contact sponsoring you, you won’t ever make the cut.

Huh?

Age discrimination

Not at 35 or even 45.

You're talking through your ass.

If you aren’t ALREADY in the Valley by 35, unless you are a founder of a successful startup or some extreme edge case, you aren’t getting a job at a FAANG. Worked for years on algorithms at APL as a staff programmer and can easily do the role of a full stack SDE, they will not give you time of day.

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Anonymous wrote:wow this thread is eye opening. It makes me feel underpaid. I have 15 yoe and I'm making only $250k at a local company.
I'm getting paid less than new grads? I'm sending my application for a job at a FAANG tomorrow.

Depending on your skills, you may not may more. Some of these salaries are exaggerated.

Not exaggerated. Not just FAANG but random unicorn startups pay 150-250k to fresh grads and 4-5 yoe can make over 300k. There’s a few dozen companies like this. The down side for someone with decades of experience outside big tech is that you may get treated the same as someone right out of school. I see some folks who are 10-20 yoe at a no name and they are given a junior position

Yeah but even if you have experience and skills if you are older than 35 unless you have a close contact sponsoring you, you won’t ever make the cut.

Huh?

Age discrimination

Not at 35 or even 45.

You're talking through your ass.

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Anonymous wrote:wow this thread is eye opening. It makes me feel underpaid. I have 15 yoe and I'm making only $250k at a local company.
I'm getting paid less than new grads? I'm sending my application for a job at a FAANG tomorrow.

Depending on your skills, you may not may more. Some of these salaries are exaggerated.

Not exaggerated. Not just FAANG but random unicorn startups pay 150-250k to fresh grads and 4-5 yoe can make over 300k. There’s a few dozen companies like this. The down side for someone with decades of experience outside big tech is that you may get treated the same as someone right out of school. I see some folks who are 10-20 yoe at a no name and they are given a junior position

Yeah but even if you have experience and skills if you are older than 35 unless you have a close contact sponsoring you, you won’t ever make the cut.

Huh?

Age discrimination

Anonymous wrote:My DH works at a FANG co as a data scientist. He has ~12 yoe (following a PhD), 5 at this particular company. His base salary for this year was ~$180k; he sells all his RSUs as soon as they vest and this year that added an additional $400k to his total comp. I would say he only works 40-45 hrs a week. Very flexible and not particularly high stress.

This is one of the few high comp posts here I believe. I'm also a data scientist, and 13 years out from PhD (though less time in the tech sector). Not FAANG. My base is higher than your DH's, and my total comp is ~$400K. I do believe AWS caps base close to where your DH is, though, and his comp structure is very common for FAANG. You start making money once you've lasted long enough to have prior year stock grants vest each year.

My DH is tech adjacent, and 14 years out from PhD. His base is ~$280K, and because he's pretty senior his cash bonus is close to 100% though highly dependent on his performance. But annual income-wise he almost doubles his base + cash by selling the RSUs that he's accumulated over time when they vest each year.

We are mid-40s, though...and we didn't start off with these incomes. I never know what to make of these posts about people in their 20s earning $300K+ in tech with only an undergrad degree. Neither DH's company nor mine pay that much to people a couple of years out of school...and, to the extent I know my friends' ballpark incomes, I don't know any others earning that kind of money without an advanced degree either. And I know several people who work at FAANG companies.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a director of sales at a tech company and make 250k + bonus. I am 30 years old.

Isn't 30 too old for tech?

Sales isn’t really tech, it’s sales.

Anonymous wrote:Geez these salaries are insane. I’m at 235k plus bonus which is around 5 to 10 percent. I do gov contracting with ts sci and feel underpaid given the immense need for cleared software engineers and how few of us there are. Not many young folks coming in either. Have an interview scheduled with a FANG to see what I can pull in if I sell my soul.

How old are you? Doesnt tech age discriminate?

Anonymous wrote:I am a director of sales at a tech company and make 250k + bonus. I am 30 years old.

Isn't 30 too old for tech?

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Anonymous wrote:wow this thread is eye opening. It makes me feel underpaid. I have 15 yoe and I'm making only $250k at a local company.
I'm getting paid less than new grads? I'm sending my application for a job at a FAANG tomorrow.

Depending on your skills, you may not may more. Some of these salaries are exaggerated.

Not exaggerated. Not just FAANG but random unicorn startups pay 150-250k to fresh grads and 4-5 yoe can make over 300k. There’s a few dozen companies like this. The down side for someone with decades of experience outside big tech is that you may get treated the same as someone right out of school. I see some folks who are 10-20 yoe at a no name and they are given a junior position

Yeah but even if you have experience and skills if you are older than 35 unless you have a close contact sponsoring you, you won’t ever make the cut.

Huh?

My DH works at a FANG co as a data scientist. He has ~12 yoe (following a PhD), 5 at this particular company. His base salary for this year was ~$180k; he sells all his RSUs as soon as they vest and this year that added an additional $400k to his total comp. I would say he only works 40-45 hrs a week. Very flexible and not particularly high stress.

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Anonymous wrote:wow this thread is eye opening. It makes me feel underpaid. I have 15 yoe and I'm making only $250k at a local company.
I'm getting paid less than new grads? I'm sending my application for a job at a FAANG tomorrow.

Depending on your skills, you may not may more. Some of these salaries are exaggerated.

Not exaggerated. Not just FAANG but random unicorn startups pay 150-250k to fresh grads and 4-5 yoe can make over 300k. There’s a few dozen companies like this. The down side for someone with decades of experience outside big tech is that you may get treated the same as someone right out of school. I see some folks who are 10-20 yoe at a no name and they are given a junior position

Yeah but even if you have experience and skills if you are older than 35 unless you have a close contact sponsoring you, you won’t ever make the cut.