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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if you work them them or just kiss their ass. Affluent players use the league for good competition and to showcase for college play and other ID opportunities. Is what it is.

You think it’s just affluent players in ecnl? That’s a good one.

There are a few exceptions but anyone claiming lower income players have good access to this type of league is either ignorant, clueless or full of crap.

Who’s fault?

People live in alternate worlds based on levels of income. There are few activities where affluent and poor mix. Kids activities, travel, work, schools, shopping, there are few instances where the groups are together. Youth soccer is no different. It’s a problem that has always existed and is difficult to change. Some (the affluent) might say it’s not an issue.

Affluent and poor. Interesting. How about you define what each word means to you. I assure you, I’m not affluent nor poor and I work my butt off to pay for my kids activity. 12-16 hours a day on average. I have a cheap paid off car. I don’t take big vacations. So forth and so on.

So what. Does that mean others still don't have it worse than you? Would you benefit from soccer being a bit cheaper?

Sounds like you want to socialize soccer.

Not at all, and I'm not the OP. My post stated simply stated that if it was a little cheaper what harm would it cause? I didn't know implying that others have it worse than you means I'm calling for socialism.

There is a lot of affordable soccer out there, however, the more "competitive" it gets the more expensive. When dealing with the most competitive environments money should not be a barrier to talented players. All MLS academies are now free but there is no equivalence on the Girls side.

Saying money should not be a barrier does not mean it needs to be free either. Leagues can realign some conferences to reduce travel cutting the most expensive part of participating.

But here’s the thing. No one cares what you want. It’s capitalism. It’s a business. It’s supply and demand. Some MLS academies were free….yeah….but it wasn’t for charity. They were looking to make profits on players via contracts.

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Zilich

No one is stopping you from owning a car. But if you want the lambo, you better have the money

So you are suggesting that ECNL is a Lambo? LOL

How about clubs that use County facilities, supported by our tax dollars, be looked at more as public transportation then? What isn't fair is clubs price many kids out of facilities that their parents tax money helps provide.

We complain about a lack of street soccer culture in this country yet there are very few fields that are not monopolized by pay to play clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if you work them them or just kiss their ass. Affluent players use the league for good competition and to showcase for college play and other ID opportunities. Is what it is.

You think it’s just affluent players in ecnl? That’s a good one.

There are a few exceptions but anyone claiming lower income players have good access to this type of league is either ignorant, clueless or full of crap.

Who’s fault?

People live in alternate worlds based on levels of income. There are few activities where affluent and poor mix. Kids activities, travel, work, schools, shopping, there are few instances where the groups are together. Youth soccer is no different. It’s a problem that has always existed and is difficult to change. Some (the affluent) might say it’s not an issue.

Affluent and poor. Interesting. How about you define what each word means to you. I assure you, I’m not affluent nor poor and I work my butt off to pay for my kids activity. 12-16 hours a day on average. I have a cheap paid off car. I don’t take big vacations. So forth and so on.

So what. Does that mean others still don't have it worse than you? Would you benefit from soccer being a bit cheaper?

Sounds like you want to socialize soccer.

Not at all, and I'm not the OP. My post stated simply stated that if it was a little cheaper what harm would it cause? I didn't know implying that others have it worse than you means I'm calling for socialism.

There is a lot of affordable soccer out there, however, the more "competitive" it gets the more expensive. When dealing with the most competitive environments money should not be a barrier to talented players. All MLS academies are now free but there is no equivalence on the Girls side.

Saying money should not be a barrier does not mean it needs to be free either. Leagues can realign some conferences to reduce travel cutting the most expensive part of participating.

But here’s the thing. No one cares what you want. It’s capitalism. It’s a business. It’s supply and demand. Some MLS academies were free….yeah….but it wasn’t for charity. They were looking to make profits on players via contracts.

Nothing is free
Nothing is free
Nothing is free
Nothing is free

Nada
Zilich

No one is stopping you from owning a car. But if you want the lambo, you better have the money

At what point did I suggest that anything was to be free?

Do you think "buy one get one free" is socialism? Are you really this stupid?

If elite soccer is intended to be "merit based" then the most talented players should be able to participate regardless of finances. If a family can demonstrate a need then a club should be able to help out the best that it can. That doesn't mean free, but it does mean they are fielding the best team and not just the "best team of those who can afford it".

And here is another thing that a club might want to do, since it is a merit system, a club should offer scholarships to the best players. Let the less talented player pay. In a free market a club need to compete and put the best product on the field. If the best players know they can get half off as a reward for their talent then so be it. That is how the free market works in sports. The best players make the most, in a pay to play model the best players should pay the least.

Nothing would shut some entitled parents up more than finding out their Mia is paying for the real stars of the team.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if you work them them or just kiss their ass. Affluent players use the league for good competition and to showcase for college play and other ID opportunities. Is what it is.

You think it’s just affluent players in ecnl? That’s a good one.

There are a few exceptions but anyone claiming lower income players have good access to this type of league is either ignorant, clueless or full of crap.

Who’s fault?

People live in alternate worlds based on levels of income. There are few activities where affluent and poor mix. Kids activities, travel, work, schools, shopping, there are few instances where the groups are together. Youth soccer is no different. It’s a problem that has always existed and is difficult to change. Some (the affluent) might say it’s not an issue.

Affluent and poor. Interesting. How about you define what each word means to you. I assure you, I’m not affluent nor poor and I work my butt off to pay for my kids activity. 12-16 hours a day on average. I have a cheap paid off car. I don’t take big vacations. So forth and so on.

So what. Does that mean others still don't have it worse than you? Would you benefit from soccer being a bit cheaper?

Sounds like you want to socialize soccer.

Not at all, and I'm not the OP. My post stated simply stated that if it was a little cheaper what harm would it cause? I didn't know implying that others have it worse than you means I'm calling for socialism.

There is a lot of affordable soccer out there, however, the more "competitive" it gets the more expensive. When dealing with the most competitive environments money should not be a barrier to talented players. All MLS academies are now free but there is no equivalence on the Girls side.

Saying money should not be a barrier does not mean it needs to be free either. Leagues can realign some conferences to reduce travel cutting the most expensive part of participating.

But here’s the thing. No one cares what you want. It’s capitalism. It’s a business. It’s supply and demand. Some MLS academies were free….yeah….but it wasn’t for charity. They were looking to make profits on players via contracts.

Nothing is free
Nothing is free
Nothing is free
Nothing is free

Nada
Zilich

No one is stopping you from owning a car. But if you want the lambo, you better have the money

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if you work them them or just kiss their ass. Affluent players use the league for good competition and to showcase for college play and other ID opportunities. Is what it is.

You think it’s just affluent players in ecnl? That’s a good one.

There are a few exceptions but anyone claiming lower income players have good access to this type of league is either ignorant, clueless or full of crap.

Who’s fault?

People live in alternate worlds based on levels of income. There are few activities where affluent and poor mix. Kids activities, travel, work, schools, shopping, there are few instances where the groups are together. Youth soccer is no different. It’s a problem that has always existed and is difficult to change. Some (the affluent) might say it’s not an issue.

Affluent and poor. Interesting. How about you define what each word means to you. I assure you, I’m not affluent nor poor and I work my butt off to pay for my kids activity. 12-16 hours a day on average. I have a cheap paid off car. I don’t take big vacations. So forth and so on.

So what. Does that mean others still don't have it worse than you? Would you benefit from soccer being a bit cheaper?

Sounds like you want to socialize soccer.

Not at all, and I'm not the OP. My post stated simply stated that if it was a little cheaper what harm would it cause? I didn't know implying that others have it worse than you means I'm calling for socialism.

There is a lot of affordable soccer out there, however, the more "competitive" it gets the more expensive. When dealing with the most competitive environments money should not be a barrier to talented players. All MLS academies are now free but there is no equivalence on the Girls side.

Saying money should not be a barrier does not mean it needs to be free either. Leagues can realign some conferences to reduce travel cutting the most expensive part of participating.

I just want the kids to to compete against a big pool of talent, not just the pool of talent that can pay. Will not ever happen as the system is designed to serve the players with enough money. That is as american as apple pie.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if you work them them or just kiss their ass. Affluent players use the league for good competition and to showcase for college play and other ID opportunities. Is what it is.

You think it’s just affluent players in ecnl? That’s a good one.

There are a few exceptions but anyone claiming lower income players have good access to this type of league is either ignorant, clueless or full of crap.

Who’s fault?

People live in alternate worlds based on levels of income. There are few activities where affluent and poor mix. Kids activities, travel, work, schools, shopping, there are few instances where the groups are together. Youth soccer is no different. It’s a problem that has always existed and is difficult to change. Some (the affluent) might say it’s not an issue.

Affluent and poor. Interesting. How about you define what each word means to you. I assure you, I’m not affluent nor poor and I work my butt off to pay for my kids activity. 12-16 hours a day on average. I have a cheap paid off car. I don’t take big vacations. So forth and so on.

So what. Does that mean others still don't have it worse than you? Would you benefit from soccer being a bit cheaper?

Sounds like you want to socialize soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if you work them them or just kiss their ass. Affluent players use the league for good competition and to showcase for college play and other ID opportunities. Is what it is.

You think it’s just affluent players in ecnl? That’s a good one.

There are a few exceptions but anyone claiming lower income players have good access to this type of league is either ignorant, clueless or full of crap.

Who’s fault?

People live in alternate worlds based on levels of income. There are few activities where affluent and poor mix. Kids activities, travel, work, schools, shopping, there are few instances where the groups are together. Youth soccer is no different. It’s a problem that has always existed and is difficult to change. Some (the affluent) might say it’s not an issue.

Affluent and poor. Interesting. How about you define what each word means to you. I assure you, I’m not affluent nor poor and I work my butt off to pay for my kids activity. 12-16 hours a day on average. I have a cheap paid off car. I don’t take big vacations. So forth and so on.

So what. Does that mean others still don't have it worse than you? Would you benefit from soccer being a bit cheaper?

you don't have teammates that are taking private transportation traveling to florida playoffs, leaving your other kids at home with nannies and pounding away on social media at all ivy league schools to come watch your kid play?

Not sure what this has to do with the statement you replied to.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if you work them them or just kiss their ass. Affluent players use the league for good competition and to showcase for college play and other ID opportunities. Is what it is.

You think it’s just affluent players in ecnl? That’s a good one.

There are a few exceptions but anyone claiming lower income players have good access to this type of league is either ignorant, clueless or full of crap.

Who’s fault?

People live in alternate worlds based on levels of income. There are few activities where affluent and poor mix. Kids activities, travel, work, schools, shopping, there are few instances where the groups are together. Youth soccer is no different. It’s a problem that has always existed and is difficult to change. Some (the affluent) might say it’s not an issue.

Affluent and poor. Interesting. How about you define what each word means to you. I assure you, I’m not affluent nor poor and I work my butt off to pay for my kids activity. 12-16 hours a day on average. I have a cheap paid off car. I don’t take big vacations. So forth and so on.

So what. Does that mean others still don't have it worse than you? Would you benefit from soccer being a bit cheaper?

you don't have teammates that are taking private transportation traveling to florida playoffs, leaving your other kids at home with nannies and pounding away on social media at all ivy league schools to come watch your kid play?

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if you work them them or just kiss their ass. Affluent players use the league for good competition and to showcase for college play and other ID opportunities. Is what it is.

You think it’s just affluent players in ecnl? That’s a good one.

There are a few exceptions but anyone claiming lower income players have good access to this type of league is either ignorant, clueless or full of crap.

Who’s fault?

People live in alternate worlds based on levels of income. There are few activities where affluent and poor mix. Kids activities, travel, work, schools, shopping, there are few instances where the groups are together. Youth soccer is no different. It’s a problem that has always existed and is difficult to change. Some (the affluent) might say it’s not an issue.

Affluent and poor. Interesting. How about you define what each word means to you. I assure you, I’m not affluent nor poor and I work my butt off to pay for my kids activity. 12-16 hours a day on average. I have a cheap paid off car. I don’t take big vacations. So forth and so on.

So what. Does that mean others still don't have it worse than you? Would you benefit from soccer being a bit cheaper?

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if you work them them or just kiss their ass. Affluent players use the league for good competition and to showcase for college play and other ID opportunities. Is what it is.

You think it’s just affluent players in ecnl? That’s a good one.

There are a few exceptions but anyone claiming lower income players have good access to this type of league is either ignorant, clueless or full of crap.

Who’s fault?

People live in alternate worlds based on levels of income. There are few activities where affluent and poor mix. Kids activities, travel, work, schools, shopping, there are few instances where the groups are together. Youth soccer is no different. It’s a problem that has always existed and is difficult to change. Some (the affluent) might say it’s not an issue.

Affluent and poor. Interesting. How about you define what each word means to you. I assure you, I’m not affluent nor poor and I work my butt off to pay for my kids activity. 12-16 hours a day on average. I have a cheap paid off car. I don’t take big vacations. So forth and so on.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if you work them them or just kiss their ass. Affluent players use the league for good competition and to showcase for college play and other ID opportunities. Is what it is.

You think it’s just affluent players in ecnl? That’s a good one.

There are a few exceptions but anyone claiming lower income players have good access to this type of league is either ignorant, clueless or full of crap.

Who’s fault?

What do you mean "who's fault"?

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if you work them them or just kiss their ass. Affluent players use the league for good competition and to showcase for college play and other ID opportunities. Is what it is.

You think it’s just affluent players in ecnl? That’s a good one.

There are a few exceptions but anyone claiming lower income players have good access to this type of league is either ignorant, clueless or full of crap.

Who’s fault?

People live in alternate worlds based on levels of income. There are few activities where affluent and poor mix. Kids activities, travel, work, schools, shopping, there are few instances where the groups are together. Youth soccer is no different. It’s a problem that has always existed and is difficult to change. Some (the affluent) might say it’s not an issue.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care if you work them them or just kiss their ass. Affluent players use the league for good competition and to showcase for college play and other ID opportunities. Is what it is.

You think it’s just affluent players in ecnl? That’s a good one.

There are a few exceptions but anyone claiming lower income players have good access to this type of league is either ignorant, clueless or full of crap.

Who’s fault?

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Anonymous wrote:Bethesda will win it all.

Bethesda - winners of Showcase group C bracket. You heard it here first

It's crazy to watch all the social media hype being pushed for these older teams is the 3 and 4th ECNL showcase brackets for Florida after having bad seasons and not qualifying.

Is there a thread for the ECNL Boys Playoffs in Greensboro July 3-9?