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Anonymous wrote:OP, you're doing it right. Other people will do it their way. Our family has laid low for more than a year. My husband is a Ph.D. biologist who already had us locking down in February 2020 and was warning there was only a few weeks of in-person school left. He was right. Last summer, our excited was playing board games. No vacation, no pool, no camps, pretty boring. Online school only.

Three out of four of us are now fully vaccinated. The youngest is not. So while we are going out a bit more to shop, we are still using quite a bit of caution to keep the youngest safe. We won't let up until all of us are fully vaxxed. Just waiting on the FDA.

Yes to this. Thank you!

Agreed. It's been a challenging year for everyone but we absolutely do not regret not catching it. Pre-pandemic, my mother died of pneumonia after catching strep, and the time she while she was hospitalized in the ICU (where she was intubated, on a ventilator, ECMO, and on dialysis, and receiving every possible treatment) was one of the most traumatic experiences of my life. DH and one of my kids have underlying conditions making them at risk for severe illness from Covid and we were unwilling to take the risk just to have more daily socialization. My kids played with each other, did outdoors masked play dates, and stayed engaged during distance learning and with online camps. We will continue to be careful until everyone is vaccinated. No regrets.

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Anonymous wrote:So what if she gets covid? Honestly. I’m sure you never kept her isolated because you feared the flu or rsv or any other childhood illness. Look at the death rates for covid vs flu. Did you know flu has all the same wonky side effects that covid does.

Freaking out over a kid getting covid is ludicrous. Let her have a life again.

Some of us never stopped having lives, which we did with masks, outdoors and/or distancing, while the rest of you screamed and sobbed and tore your garments that your children were SUFFERING and HOSTAGES because you couldn't go about life as if the pandemic didn't exist

Agreed. So many drama-queens on this thread.

Don't second guess yourself, OP, just move forward from here. As another PP said, in the end this will be a blip in their lives.

And don't listen to all these smug people who claim they "never" worried about the pandemic and it was fine blah blah blah. They got lucky but now they are omniscient. give me a break!

As we all know from the KFF poll, Black and Brown parents were more concerned about covid in kids bc their families and communities were harder hit. Meanwhile covid didn’t even make the top ten concerns for White parents. Says a lot about our country.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/21/health/parenting-concerns-during-pandemic-wellness/index.html

https://files.kff.org/attachment/Report-Race-Health-and-COVID-19-The-Views-and-Experiences-of-Black-Americans.pdf





And July 2020 https://www.capradio.org/articles/2020/07/16/new-poll-suggests-white-residents-less-worried-about-covid-19-white-privilege-may-be-a-factor/

Actually, studies I read showed that college education level was the number one factor as to whether a family wanted their kids back in school. In fact, black college educated parents were the most likely to send their kids.

From talking to friends who teach at low income schools, the kids whose parents didn’t send them in person overlapped heavily with the parents who didn’t bother to send them to school on time or go to conferences or do much as parents in the before time. “Covid concerns” is a good cover up for not giving a shit.

This is full of it. We are at a low income school and many of us didn't send our kids back for safety reasons. We have attended every conference, assembly/music/arts production and everything else are invited to. It makes zero sense to disrupt things at the end of the year when its working fine for us and the risk of covid is not worth it. We enjoyed having ours home this year and the extra time together as a family and don't view it as a hardship.

Nope. I am ecstatic that I got my kid through this without getting Covid and that I was able to get him the vaccine last week. He will start hanging out with his friends again, provided they are vaccinated, in six weeks!

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Anonymous wrote:So what if she gets covid? Honestly. I’m sure you never kept her isolated because you feared the flu or rsv or any other childhood illness. Look at the death rates for covid vs flu. Did you know flu has all the same wonky side effects that covid does.

Freaking out over a kid getting covid is ludicrous. Let her have a life again.

Some of us never stopped having lives, which we did with masks, outdoors and/or distancing, while the rest of you screamed and sobbed and tore your garments that your children were SUFFERING and HOSTAGES because you couldn't go about life as if the pandemic didn't exist

Agreed. So many drama-queens on this thread.

Don't second guess yourself, OP, just move forward from here. As another PP said, in the end this will be a blip in their lives.

And don't listen to all these smug people who claim they "never" worried about the pandemic and it was fine blah blah blah. They got lucky but now they are omniscient. give me a break!

As we all know from the KFF poll, Black and Brown parents were more concerned about covid in kids bc their families and communities were harder hit. Meanwhile covid didn’t even make the top ten concerns for White parents. Says a lot about our country.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/21/health/parenting-concerns-during-pandemic-wellness/index.html

https://files.kff.org/attachment/Report-Race-Health-and-COVID-19-The-Views-and-Experiences-of-Black-Americans.pdf





And July 2020 https://www.capradio.org/articles/2020/07/16/new-poll-suggests-white-residents-less-worried-about-covid-19-white-privilege-may-be-a-factor/

Actually, studies I read showed that college education level was the number one factor as to whether a family wanted their kids back in school. In fact, black college educated parents were the most likely to send their kids.

From talking to friends who teach at low income schools, the kids whose parents didn’t send them in person overlapped heavily with the parents who didn’t bother to send them to school on time or go to conferences or do much as parents in the before time. “Covid concerns” is a good cover up for not giving a shit.

Show me the link. Black epidemiologists for the most part are not sending their kids to in person

Similar thread here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/973496.page

The science and data kept shifting and the circumstances and rates shifted as well. I don't have any regrets being very cautious with our kids and families. We did do masked playdates but stayed virtual. It will be an adjustment but many are in the same boat and we will eventually transition.

Sounds borderline over-reactionary to me.

We have been very careful, and wear masks. But very rarely, if ever--outside. Haven't been isolating from other family for about 3 months now, and starting to allow visits to other friends house.

So far, not a single person in our family has tested positive for covid.

I get it's a serious illness. But, we're all fully vaxed. And we miss family/friends. So, no--I will not be isolating anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:So what if she gets covid? Honestly. I’m sure you never kept her isolated because you feared the flu or rsv or any other childhood illness. Look at the death rates for covid vs flu. Did you know flu has all the same wonky side effects that covid does.

Freaking out over a kid getting covid is ludicrous. Let her have a life again.

Some of us never stopped having lives, which we did with masks, outdoors and/or distancing, while the rest of you screamed and sobbed and tore your garments that your children were SUFFERING and HOSTAGES because you couldn't go about life as if the pandemic didn't exist

Agreed. So many drama-queens on this thread.

Don't second guess yourself, OP, just move forward from here. As another PP said, in the end this will be a blip in their lives.

And don't listen to all these smug people who claim they "never" worried about the pandemic and it was fine blah blah blah. They got lucky but now they are omniscient. give me a break!

As we all know from the KFF poll, Black and Brown parents were more concerned about covid in kids bc their families and communities were harder hit. Meanwhile covid didn’t even make the top ten concerns for White parents. Says a lot about our country.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/21/health/parenting-concerns-during-pandemic-wellness/index.html

https://files.kff.org/attachment/Report-Race-Health-and-COVID-19-The-Views-and-Experiences-of-Black-Americans.pdf





And July 2020 https://www.capradio.org/articles/2020/07/16/new-poll-suggests-white-residents-less-worried-about-covid-19-white-privilege-may-be-a-factor/

Actually, studies I read showed that college education level was the number one factor as to whether a family wanted their kids back in school. In fact, black college educated parents were the most likely to send their kids.

From talking to friends who teach at low income schools, the kids whose parents didn’t send them in person overlapped heavily with the parents who didn’t bother to send them to school on time or go to conferences or do much as parents in the before time. “Covid concerns” is a good cover up for not giving a shit.

Anonymous wrote:OP, you're doing it right. Other people will do it their way. Our family has laid low for more than a year. My husband is a Ph.D. biologist who already had us locking down in February 2020 and was warning there was only a few weeks of in-person school left. He was right. Last summer, our excited was playing board games. No vacation, no pool, no camps, pretty boring. Online school only.

Three out of four of us are now fully vaccinated. The youngest is not. So while we are going out a bit more to shop, we are still using quite a bit of caution to keep the youngest safe. We won't let up until all of us are fully vaxxed. Just waiting on the FDA.

Yes to this. Thank you!

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Anonymous wrote:So what if she gets covid? Honestly. I’m sure you never kept her isolated because you feared the flu or rsv or any other childhood illness. Look at the death rates for covid vs flu. Did you know flu has all the same wonky side effects that covid does.

Freaking out over a kid getting covid is ludicrous. Let her have a life again.

Some of us never stopped having lives, which we did with masks, outdoors and/or distancing, while the rest of you screamed and sobbed and tore your garments that your children were SUFFERING and HOSTAGES because you couldn't go about life as if the pandemic didn't exist

Agreed. So many drama-queens on this thread.

Don't second guess yourself, OP, just move forward from here. As another PP said, in the end this will be a blip in their lives.

And don't listen to all these smug people who claim they "never" worried about the pandemic and it was fine blah blah blah. They got lucky but now they are omniscient. give me a break!

As we all know from the KFF poll, Black and Brown parents were more concerned about covid in kids bc their families and communities were harder hit. Meanwhile covid didn’t even make the top ten concerns for White parents. Says a lot about our country.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/21/health/parenting-concerns-during-pandemic-wellness/index.html

https://files.kff.org/attachment/Report-Race-Health-and-COVID-19-The-Views-and-Experiences-of-Black-Americans.pdf





And July 2020 https://www.capradio.org/articles/2020/07/16/new-poll-suggests-white-residents-less-worried-about-covid-19-white-privilege-may-be-a-factor/

Apparently white people were more concerned about abuse - which is a pretty serious worry IMO.

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Anonymous wrote:So what if she gets covid? Honestly. I’m sure you never kept her isolated because you feared the flu or rsv or any other childhood illness. Look at the death rates for covid vs flu. Did you know flu has all the same wonky side effects that covid does.

Freaking out over a kid getting covid is ludicrous. Let her have a life again.

Some of us never stopped having lives, which we did with masks, outdoors and/or distancing, while the rest of you screamed and sobbed and tore your garments that your children were SUFFERING and HOSTAGES because you couldn't go about life as if the pandemic didn't exist

Agreed. So many drama-queens on this thread.

Don't second guess yourself, OP, just move forward from here. As another PP said, in the end this will be a blip in their lives.

And don't listen to all these smug people who claim they "never" worried about the pandemic and it was fine blah blah blah. They got lucky but now they are omniscient. give me a break!

As we all know from the KFF poll, Black and Brown parents were more concerned about covid in kids bc their families and communities were harder hit. Meanwhile covid didn’t even make the top ten concerns for White parents. Says a lot about our country.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/21/health/parenting-concerns-during-pandemic-wellness/index.html

https://files.kff.org/attachment/Report-Race-Health-and-COVID-19-The-Views-and-Experiences-of-Black-Americans.pdf





And July 2020 https://www.capradio.org/articles/2020/07/16/new-poll-suggests-white-residents-less-worried-about-covid-19-white-privilege-may-be-a-factor/

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t isolate my kids at all. In fact, we made the huge decision to move to a state that was open so my kids could go to school. None of us got it, and my kids are objectively in a much better place socially and mentally than my friends’ kids who stayed in Virginia (and still aren’t in school full-time).

(aaand now cue the panic posting about how isolating kids is the morally superior thing to do, in order to justify adults’ pretty poor decisions )

People who isolated back when information on the ground was sparse didn't make poor decisions. They did the best they could with the info at hand. And many people assessed the new info as it came out and adjusted as more was known. That is what intelligent people with common sense do.

Those of you who ignored the whole thing back when little was known weren't smarter or better parents. You just got lucky. Now shut up with parenting advice. You don't have the chops to dispense it.

Some of us absolutely isolated when information was sparse and later chose to read the data ourselves and take calculated risks. I don’t think OP wishes she had carried on as normal. I think she, and others, are realizing that they were fed a diet of panic and were not as well informed as they thought.

May. One year ago this month was when the world knew kids weren’t as affected and could easily be in school fulltime. The Danish had been back in school for weeks, and American research started coming out in support of kids back in school. Also when teacher’s unions went on full defense with a takeover of the US CDC, and those of us paying attention got the heck out of the DC area. Mask mandates will not be lifted there by July 4. Read the writing on the wall.

I haven’t left yet. As more states lift restrictions and nothing happens, the mandates simply cannot be justified. The slow walk-back is already happening.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/05/americans-will-have-answer-remaining-questions-about-pandemic-themselves/?outputType=amp

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/05/06/gottlieb-cdc-can-consider-lifting-indoor-covid-mask-mandates-now.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pilotonline.com/news/health/vp-nw-covid-press-conf-0506-20210506-whgn243mrfhopow4kgrrhnywqu-story.html%3foutputType=amp

Danes have had quite a few outbreaks in schools -B117.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t isolate my kids at all. In fact, we made the huge decision to move to a state that was open so my kids could go to school. None of us got it, and my kids are objectively in a much better place socially and mentally than my friends’ kids who stayed in Virginia (and still aren’t in school full-time).

(aaand now cue the panic posting about how isolating kids is the morally superior thing to do, in order to justify adults’ pretty poor decisions )

People who isolated back when information on the ground was sparse didn't make poor decisions. They did the best they could with the info at hand. And many people assessed the new info as it came out and adjusted as more was known. That is what intelligent people with common sense do.

Those of you who ignored the whole thing back when little was known weren't smarter or better parents. You just got lucky. Now shut up with parenting advice. You don't have the chops to dispense it.

Some of us absolutely isolated when information was sparse and later chose to read the data ourselves and take calculated risks. I don’t think OP wishes she had carried on as normal. I think she, and others, are realizing that they were fed a diet of panic and were not as well informed as they thought.

May. One year ago this month was when the world knew kids weren’t as affected and could easily be in school fulltime. The Danish had been back in school for weeks, and American research started coming out in support of kids back in school. Also when teacher’s unions went on full defense with a takeover of the US CDC, and those of us paying attention got the heck out of the DC area. Mask mandates will not be lifted there by July 4. Read the writing on the wall.

I haven’t left yet. As more states lift restrictions and nothing happens, the mandates simply cannot be justified. The slow walk-back is already happening.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/05/americans-will-have-answer-remaining-questions-about-pandemic-themselves/?outputType=amp

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/05/06/gottlieb-cdc-can-consider-lifting-indoor-covid-mask-mandates-now.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pilotonline.com/news/health/vp-nw-covid-press-conf-0506-20210506-whgn243mrfhopow4kgrrhnywqu-story.html%3foutputType=amp

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t isolate my kids at all. In fact, we made the huge decision to move to a state that was open so my kids could go to school. None of us got it, and my kids are objectively in a much better place socially and mentally than my friends’ kids who stayed in Virginia (and still aren’t in school full-time).

(aaand now cue the panic posting about how isolating kids is the morally superior thing to do, in order to justify adults’ pretty poor decisions )

People who isolated back when information on the ground was sparse didn't make poor decisions. They did the best they could with the info at hand. And many people assessed the new info as it came out and adjusted as more was known. That is what intelligent people with common sense do.

Those of you who ignored the whole thing back when little was known weren't smarter or better parents. You just got lucky. Now shut up with parenting advice. You don't have the chops to dispense it.

Some of us absolutely isolated when information was sparse and later chose to read the data ourselves and take calculated risks. I don’t think OP wishes she had carried on as normal. I think she, and others, are realizing that they were fed a diet of panic and were not as well informed as they thought.

May. One year ago this month was when the world knew kids weren’t as affected and could easily be in school fulltime. The Danish had been back in school for weeks, and American research started coming out in support of kids back in school. Also when teacher’s unions went on full defense with a takeover of the US CDC, and those of us paying attention got the heck out of the DC area. Mask mandates will not be lifted there by July 4. Read the writing on the wall.

My jerk BIL homeschooled his kids in a state that stayed partially open the whole time. He and wife decided they wouldn’t see anyone...at all...the entire time. I mean literally never left home. He claimed they were worried about one of the kids who has a Nebulizer and gets bad colds in winter. Also stated he (BIL) has mild asmtha. Literally 2 weeks after he got his vaccine they are running all around town. Going to church, baseball for kids, etc. so it was all just for him. So incredibly selfish. Their oldest has been majorly depressed this past year being stuck at home, especially since most of his friends continued to go to school. They judged us for how we handled COVID. SMH.

OP, I’m not sure if you are still reading all of these responses, but please don’t beat yourself up over this. You did what you thought was right, given the information you had at the time. Whether others did the same or didn’t and their reasoning doesn’t matter. I can tell you, through a lot of experience, that kids are incredibly resilient and your daughter will be ok.