More likely SCEA deferrals getting in RD - anecdotal but have heard that much more this year than typical

Anonymous wrote:Parent of a senior at a Big 3. It has been a bloodbath this year. I'm hearing that some kids are starting to come off Ivy waitlists, though.

is this true? coming off WL at ivies this soon? thought it would be after May 1.

Parent of a senior at a Big 3. It has been a bloodbath this year. I'm hearing that some kids are starting to come off Ivy waitlists, though.

But yours has the meth.

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Anonymous wrote:Poor baby big 3 douchenozzles got sad.

Thank you for your valuable contribution, public school mom! Good to see you again!

Still sad. It’ll be okay. At least your kid had access to the best weed.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid who is a sophomore at a Big 3 and by that let's say I mean St Albans/NCS, GDS, Sidwell or Maret. I have heard through my school grapevine that this year the kids at the elite privates are having terrible results-
especially the unhooked kids. I have heard that they are negatively affected by test-optional, the elimination of AP's and grade deflation.

Ok please tell me your experiences- Big 3 parents only please...I am not interested in hearing how well your W school kid did, or how stupid you think I am for paying private school tuition.

I would simply say to consider the self-interest of the people making these assessments. It can’t possibly be that this was an insanely competitive admissions year and their kids just didn’t make the cut; it has to be that less-worthy kids, whose parents didn’t pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for private school, somehow had an advantage. Come on.

Every rejection letter you, your kids, and your entitled arrogant community get bring tears of joy to me. You deserve all of it! Hope you enjoyed the bonfire you had burning up your 200k in tuition.

You definitely sound like someone who is happy, content, and confident regarding the educational choices you’ve made for your family. What a great advertisement for public school!

PP above: My point is that in NYC, I am still grateful that our private tried to keep the experience constant, and that college admissions is not the main point, though my DC did get in ED. I know that in the long-term, spending so much time no writing and critical thinking will be beneficial, and for me that was the point of private school.

Anonymous wrote:I have twins --one at DCPS and one who left for a Big3 school in 7th per the child's request (2 years ago). I'd estimate that the public school kid is learning 20% of what the Big3 kid is learning.
The was pre-pandemic and during the pandemic.
My public school kid is getting high As in all classes and is taking the hardest math the school offers (Algebra 2 in 8th grade). She/he does debate and Model UN and
every academic extracurricular I can make him/her do. However, she/he is skating through school with two 45 minutes classes per day and no school on Wednesdays.
Meanwhile, the Big3 kid is working his/her tail off as usual.

I'm a huge public school advocate (I attended them and my 3 kids have attended them for a total of 28 years of instruction). However, there the difference between
learning between private and our public is insane. I care nothing about prestige and we're not wealthy.
I recognize that the public school kid will probably have better college admissions (which is crazy, given that he/she can barely write) but she/he will likely graduate
with a perfect GPA (barely some sort of academic disaster) while the private school kid will end up with something well under 4.0 but with a far, far deeper and broader
understanding of history and literature and a well developed ability to write and reason.

IN NYC area, same thing. The top public schools (Specialized Schools) have changed their standards, and are allowing kids to make any course they want Pass/Fail, in addition to a much lighter homework load, less writing and so on. So GPAs are rising. My DC accepted to both Specialized, where many of their friends attend, which is how I know what's going on there, and top private (currently at top private). There has been no change in standards or workload at the top private; you can still get Cs and Ds. It is still really tough to get an A-. and they are still up writing papers until 1am or 2am. I am happy they are learning so much and have been in person. But I think that college admissions have been affected based on what we see so far in their class, with more Wait Lists than usual, given the supply of kids seems to have moved to everyone in the US gets an A, whereas their school profile is the same as it has always been, only top 25% get A- averages.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid who is a sophomore at a Big 3 and by that let's say I mean St Albans/NCS, GDS, Sidwell or Maret. I have heard through my school grapevine that this year the kids at the elite privates are having terrible results-
especially the unhooked kids. I have heard that they are negatively affected by test-optional, the elimination of AP's and grade deflation.

Ok please tell me your experiences- Big 3 parents only please...I am not interested in hearing how well your W school kid did, or how stupid you think I am for paying private school tuition.

I would simply say to consider the self-interest of the people making these assessments. It can’t possibly be that this was an insanely competitive admissions year and their kids just didn’t make the cut; it has to be that less-worthy kids, whose parents didn’t pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for private school, somehow had an advantage. Come on.

Every rejection letter you, your kids, and your entitled arrogant community get bring tears of joy to me. You deserve all of it! Hope you enjoyed the bonfire you had burning up your 200k in tuition.

Wow. Check your bitterness. GTFU. Not np.

That prior post is a flame-fueling troll post. No need to engage.

Fact is, kids with a great education and upbringing will do well wherever they go. They have the soft skills that are cultivated over a lifetime. Further, if one shows humility and class (whichever side of the debate they are on), good opportunities follow. It’s up to the person to make the most of those opportunities.

Results at the Big 3 school of my DC is actually better than the last few years. At the height of the pandemic, when no one was able to take the SAT, my DC's school arranged to have the test privately administered. Having one test on record was like gold for most of the kids. Even if the test result was just good rather than stellar, something proved to be better than nothing.

I am not comparing apples to oranges (private to public), but in comparing apples to apples (the school's classes of 2021 v classes of 2020/2019/2018), this particular class did better across the board at college placement, with even middling students landing at top schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid who is a sophomore at a Big 3 and by that let's say I mean St Albans/NCS, GDS, Sidwell or Maret. I have heard through my school grapevine that this year the kids at the elite privates are having terrible results-
especially the unhooked kids. I have heard that they are negatively affected by test-optional, the elimination of AP's and grade deflation.

Ok please tell me your experiences- Big 3 parents only please...I am not interested in hearing how well your W school kid did, or how stupid you think I am for paying private school tuition.

I would simply say to consider the self-interest of the people making these assessments. It can’t possibly be that this was an insanely competitive admissions year and their kids just didn’t make the cut; it has to be that less-worthy kids, whose parents didn’t pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for private school, somehow had an advantage. Come on.

Every rejection letter you, your kids, and your entitled arrogant community get bring tears of joy to me. You deserve all of it! Hope you enjoyed the bonfire you had burning up your 200k in tuition.

Wow. Check your bitterness. GTFU. Not np.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid who is a sophomore at a Big 3 and by that let's say I mean St Albans/NCS, GDS, Sidwell or Maret. I have heard through my school grapevine that this year the kids at the elite privates are having terrible results-
especially the unhooked kids. I have heard that they are negatively affected by test-optional, the elimination of AP's and grade deflation.

Ok please tell me your experiences- Big 3 parents only please...I am not interested in hearing how well your W school kid did, or how stupid you think I am for paying private school tuition.

I would simply say to consider the self-interest of the people making these assessments. It can’t possibly be that this was an insanely competitive admissions year and their kids just didn’t make the cut; it has to be that less-worthy kids, whose parents didn’t pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for private school, somehow had an advantage. Come on.

Every rejection letter you, your kids, and your entitled arrogant community get bring tears of joy to me. You deserve all of it! Hope you enjoyed the bonfire you had burning up your 200k in tuition.

Don’t want to amplify these negative vibes, but as a public school parent, I’d totally disagree. I think 200K is a small price to pay for a clean safe learning environment, where teachers and other students model strong professional and intellectual standards. And teaching and learning are not set by “Downtown”, aka consultants and standardized test vendors, I’m sure what I describe can be found at many public HSs, but not all. Congratulations!

Anonymous wrote:Here's the best piece of advice I can give to any Big 3 family. Unless your kid is at the tippy top of the class to include perfect or near perfect SAT/ACTs, if pre-pandemic your kid's reach was in the Top 10, slide it back another 10 and take it from there. If Top 20, slide to Top 30. And so on.

NP.

This is also true for the tippy top MCPS and APS grads whose parents paid for $20K private college counseling packages, curated internships, and summer-at-HYPSM residential camps. The country club set at Yorktown and Whitman that is functionally the same group of seniors as those at GDS or NCS.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid who is a sophomore at a Big 3 and by that let's say I mean St Albans/NCS, GDS, Sidwell or Maret. I have heard through my school grapevine that this year the kids at the elite privates are having terrible results-
especially the unhooked kids. I have heard that they are negatively affected by test-optional, the elimination of AP's and grade deflation.

Ok please tell me your experiences- Big 3 parents only please...I am not interested in hearing how well your W school kid did, or how stupid you think I am for paying private school tuition.

I would simply say to consider the self-interest of the people making these assessments. It can’t possibly be that this was an insanely competitive admissions year and their kids just didn’t make the cut; it has to be that less-worthy kids, whose parents didn’t pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for private school, somehow had an advantage. Come on.

Every rejection letter you, your kids, and your entitled arrogant community get bring tears of joy to me. You deserve all of it! Hope you enjoyed the bonfire you had burning up your 200k in tuition.

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Anonymous wrote:These universities have been around for a long time and have seen many students from the nations public and private high schools come and go. They are familiar with many of these high schools and are able to interpret the different transcripts.

So, they have experience with interpreting transcripts from a pandemic year in which some kids were in class full time and some were learning (and being tested) via zoom? Do tell.

No but they do have all of freshman and sophomore year and half of junior year before the virus struck so that is not nothing. And I have not seen anything to indicate that for the most part, the class of 2025 is radically different from the class of 2024, or 2023.

Don’t engage with that troll. S/he thinks the public kids all cheated and should just be sent to large stage flagships or lower ranked schools.

Yes. Everyone who contradicts your world view is a “troll.”

Try to pay attention — cheating in DL is rampant — in privates and public schools. And it’s high-achieving public school kids that are most hurt.

Among my friends & family, the Public school kids are more likely to have teachers that are doing the bare minimum. Last year, many didn’t even do that — I had friends whose kids had teachers completely disappear for weeks on end. Add in widespread cheating, and those kids who were at the top of their class are now in a sea of kids that look just like them. The class of 2022 will have freshman year and half of sophomore year before the virus struck. The old conventional wisdom was that colleges discount, if not completely disregard, freshman year grades. Now they’re the be all end all? Add in test optional, and it’s a perfect storm that makes colleges applications an exercise in arbitrary decision making.

If you’re a first gen or have some other “hook,” you’ll likely be ok. Your average upper middle class high performing student is buying a lottery ticket.

The good news for the class 2022 is that they’ll be prepared for it and will adjust their expectations accordingly. After all the reports from this year, expect the “everyone applies everywhere” situation to be exacerbated. I predict that the “match and “safeties” will be as inundated as the top Schools were this year. And the reports of test optional kids that got into HYP will only make that situation even more ridiculous. The colleges will have the experience of this cycle, but I haven’t seen anything to make me think next year will be more rational, and it looks likely to be worse.