Anonymous wrote:All depends on when you bought your house and how much sweat equity you put in. The 400k CH house we bought 20 years ago and spruced up with help from handy relatives is worth at least 3 times that now.

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Anonymous wrote:Just wanted to note that we are a MC white family in DC. HHI of 130-140k, both parents work.

We don't go to SWS but would if we got a spot because we really value a more holistic approach to education with less emphasis on testing/achievement and more focus on developing a love of learning. I recognize that to some extent, white privilege allows me to want that for my kid because I don't have to worry about them being discriminated against for their race, and I don't worry so much about my kid being viewed as "exceptional" academically because I think a reasonable middle class life will be available to them.

I will also note that I am aware that people in DC of all colors do not think we exist in DC. It's a genuine challenge navigating schools in this city because we don't have the resources of many other white families (or even the resources others presume us to have by virtue of being white people living in DC) but also we are not poor and our kid is not at risk in any way (stable housing, food, etc.). This was particularly challenging during the pandemic when it was assumed we would have resources for full time childcare so that we could work and when we said we didn't, we were accused of being "cheap."

ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IS NOT LOWER MIDDLE CLASS!!! What planet are you people on???

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Anonymous wrote:Just wanted to note that we are a MC white family in DC. HHI of 130-140k, both parents work.

We don't go to SWS but would if we got a spot because we really value a more holistic approach to education with less emphasis on testing/achievement and more focus on developing a love of learning. I recognize that to some extent, white privilege allows me to want that for my kid because I don't have to worry about them being discriminated against for their race, and I don't worry so much about my kid being viewed as "exceptional" academically because I think a reasonable middle class life will be available to them.

I will also note that I am aware that people in DC of all colors do not think we exist in DC. It's a genuine challenge navigating schools in this city because we don't have the resources of many other white families (or even the resources others presume us to have by virtue of being white people living in DC) but also we are not poor and our kid is not at risk in any way (stable housing, food, etc.). This was particularly challenging during the pandemic when it was assumed we would have resources for full time childcare so that we could work and when we said we didn't, we were accused of being "cheap."

ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IS NOT LOWER MIDDLE CLASS!!! What planet are you people on???

Anonymous wrote:Just wanted to note that we are a MC white family in DC. HHI of 130-140k, both parents work.

We don't go to SWS but would if we got a spot because we really value a more holistic approach to education with less emphasis on testing/achievement and more focus on developing a love of learning. I recognize that to some extent, white privilege allows me to want that for my kid because I don't have to worry about them being discriminated against for their race, and I don't worry so much about my kid being viewed as "exceptional" academically because I think a reasonable middle class life will be available to them.

I will also note that I am aware that people in DC of all colors do not think we exist in DC. It's a genuine challenge navigating schools in this city because we don't have the resources of many other white families (or even the resources others presume us to have by virtue of being white people living in DC) but also we are not poor and our kid is not at risk in any way (stable housing, food, etc.). This was particularly challenging during the pandemic when it was assumed we would have resources for full time childcare so that we could work and when we said we didn't, we were accused of being "cheap."

Anonymous wrote:Just wanted to note that we are a MC white family in DC. HHI of 130-140k, both parents work.

We don't go to SWS but would if we got a spot because we really value a more holistic approach to education with less emphasis on testing/achievement and more focus on developing a love of learning. I recognize that to some extent, white privilege allows me to want that for my kid because I don't have to worry about them being discriminated against for their race, and I don't worry so much about my kid being viewed as "exceptional" academically because I think a reasonable middle class life will be available to them.

I will also note that I am aware that people in DC of all colors do not think we exist in DC. It's a genuine challenge navigating schools in this city because we don't have the resources of many other white families (or even the resources others presume us to have by virtue of being white people living in DC) but also we are not poor and our kid is not at risk in any way (stable housing, food, etc.). This was particularly challenging during the pandemic when it was assumed we would have resources for full time childcare so that we could work and when we said we didn't, we were accused of being "cheap."

Anonymous wrote:Just wanted to note that we are a MC white family in DC. HHI of 130-140k, both parents work.

We don't go to SWS but would if we got a spot because we really value a more holistic approach to education with less emphasis on testing/achievement and more focus on developing a love of learning. I recognize that to some extent, white privilege allows me to want that for my kid because I don't have to worry about them being discriminated against for their race, and I don't worry so much about my kid being viewed as "exceptional" academically because I think a reasonable middle class life will be available to them.

I will also note that I am aware that people in DC of all colors do not think we exist in DC. It's a genuine challenge navigating schools in this city because we don't have the resources of many other white families (or even the resources others presume us to have by virtue of being white people living in DC) but also we are not poor and our kid is not at risk in any way (stable housing, food, etc.). This was particularly challenging during the pandemic when it was assumed we would have resources for full time childcare so that we could work and when we said we didn't, we were accused of being "cheap."

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Anonymous wrote:No. I-Ready probably asks some questions on subject matter that has not been taught yet at the beginning of the year so lots of kids miss those questions early on and answer them correctly later. But that is not really self-serving. It is certainly possible to test above grade level at the start of the year on I-Ready and then just stagnate.

That’s what happened with both my kids. Worked with them over the summer. They were above grade level coming in this year. Then slowly slid backwards. Thanks SWS!

SWS has among the best math PARCC scores on the Hill excluding Brent which is a higher SES population. Don't think you're getting much better anywhere else in DCPS. Everything taught was appropriate grade level and they got a math worksheet for homework every week which had the same kinds of grade appropriate questions as Khan academy, etc.

You are certainly going to get better at JKLMM schools. The math worksheets are a joke. They’re maybe 8 problems for the entire week. I’m not a big advocate for more homework, but the math instruction is weak.

[bActually better or just find a higher percentage of very high SES kids with type A parents who freak out about test scores and immediately/automatically ensure their kid has tutoring on top of 7 extracurriculars? SWS is a bit different in that SES may be lower across ALL ethnicities.[/b] It's a city wide school so many people are there because they cannot afford to live in a school district with better performing scores. Take the median SES at SWS even among the caucasian ethnicity and I promise you, it's going to be lower than Maury.

However, DCUM talks like 100% of parents could have chosen Brent or JKLMM. Do you understand the wealth bubble you live in to make that type of claim?

You’re asserting that there are LMC or poor white kids at SWS? Seriously? That is laughable.

PARCC scores are broken out by race. Compare the SWS UMC white kid scores to the NW or Brent UMC white kid scores. And yes, they are UMC by any metric.

Yes, I'm asserting there are more regular MC/LMC white folks at SWS who can't afford to live in bounds for something more desirable and lottery in. I'd also assert that people who live in bounds for Brent are over the top rich, not just UMC. If you are affording a $1M+ home, you are rich. Not everyone lives in your (apparently rich?) bubble? Not everyone has choices the way you think they do.

I actually have kids at SWS and I can’t think of a single white family that would qualify as LMC. They don’t exist.

They really just don't exist in DC at all.

DC median income for white families: $161,812
DC median income for black families: $54,401.

It's a stark difference. There are white, poor people in the US writ large, but in DC itself? Very, very few.

Also, very few lower middle class white people. We whites of DC are educated and high SES even if we've chose to be slightly lower income than we could be.

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Anonymous wrote:No. I-Ready probably asks some questions on subject matter that has not been taught yet at the beginning of the year so lots of kids miss those questions early on and answer them correctly later. But that is not really self-serving. It is certainly possible to test above grade level at the start of the year on I-Ready and then just stagnate.

That’s what happened with both my kids. Worked with them over the summer. They were above grade level coming in this year. Then slowly slid backwards. Thanks SWS!

SWS has among the best math PARCC scores on the Hill excluding Brent which is a higher SES population. Don't think you're getting much better anywhere else in DCPS. Everything taught was appropriate grade level and they got a math worksheet for homework every week which had the same kinds of grade appropriate questions as Khan academy, etc.

You are certainly going to get better at JKLMM schools. The math worksheets are a joke. They’re maybe 8 problems for the entire week. I’m not a big advocate for more homework, but the math instruction is weak.

[bActually better or just find a higher percentage of very high SES kids with type A parents who freak out about test scores and immediately/automatically ensure their kid has tutoring on top of 7 extracurriculars? SWS is a bit different in that SES may be lower across ALL ethnicities.[/b] It's a city wide school so many people are there because they cannot afford to live in a school district with better performing scores. Take the median SES at SWS even among the caucasian ethnicity and I promise you, it's going to be lower than Maury.

However, DCUM talks like 100% of parents could have chosen Brent or JKLMM. Do you understand the wealth bubble you live in to make that type of claim?

You’re asserting that there are LMC or poor white kids at SWS? Seriously? That is laughable.

PARCC scores are broken out by race. Compare the SWS UMC white kid scores to the NW or Brent UMC white kid scores. And yes, they are UMC by any metric.

Yes, I'm asserting there are more regular MC/LMC white folks at SWS who can't afford to live in bounds for something more desirable and lottery in. I'd also assert that people who live in bounds for Brent are over the top rich, not just UMC. If you are affording a $1M+ home, you are rich. Not everyone lives in your (apparently rich?) bubble? Not everyone has choices the way you think they do.

I actually have kids at SWS and I can’t think of a single white family that would qualify as LMC. They don’t exist.

They really just don't exist in DC at all.

DC median income for white families: $161,812
DC median income for black families: $54,401.

It's a stark difference. There are white, poor people in the US writ large, but in DC itself? Very, very few.

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Anonymous wrote:No. I-Ready probably asks some questions on subject matter that has not been taught yet at the beginning of the year so lots of kids miss those questions early on and answer them correctly later. But that is not really self-serving. It is certainly possible to test above grade level at the start of the year on I-Ready and then just stagnate.

That’s what happened with both my kids. Worked with them over the summer. They were above grade level coming in this year. Then slowly slid backwards. Thanks SWS!

SWS has among the best math PARCC scores on the Hill excluding Brent which is a higher SES population. Don't think you're getting much better anywhere else in DCPS. Everything taught was appropriate grade level and they got a math worksheet for homework every week which had the same kinds of grade appropriate questions as Khan academy, etc.

You are certainly going to get better at JKLMM schools. The math worksheets are a joke. They’re maybe 8 problems for the entire week. I’m not a big advocate for more homework, but the math instruction is weak.

[bActually better or just find a higher percentage of very high SES kids with type A parents who freak out about test scores and immediately/automatically ensure their kid has tutoring on top of 7 extracurriculars? SWS is a bit different in that SES may be lower across ALL ethnicities.[/b] It's a city wide school so many people are there because they cannot afford to live in a school district with better performing scores. Take the median SES at SWS even among the caucasian ethnicity and I promise you, it's going to be lower than Maury.

However, DCUM talks like 100% of parents could have chosen Brent or JKLMM. Do you understand the wealth bubble you live in to make that type of claim?

You’re asserting that there are LMC or poor white kids at SWS? Seriously? That is laughable.

PARCC scores are broken out by race. Compare the SWS UMC white kid scores to the NW or Brent UMC white kid scores. And yes, they are UMC by any metric.

Yes, I'm asserting there are more regular MC/LMC white folks at SWS who can't afford to live in bounds for something more desirable and lottery in. I'd also assert that people who live in bounds for Brent are over the top rich, not just UMC. If you are affording a $1M+ home, you are rich. Not everyone lives in your (apparently rich?) bubble? Not everyone has choices the way you think they do.

There are virtually no LMC white families in DC, much less all at SWS. I live on a street with 3 SWS families and every one of them has a house that would sell for over $1 million. They pass about 10 other families en route to drop off; all of them live in $1 million+ houses too. Are there going to be some families who don’t? Of course, but much of the Maury zone has houses well under that range (16th st & east, e.g.)… and even the Brent zone has apartments. Brent is also only 65% IB, so nearly 1/3rd exactly the same types of folks you’re describing st SWS.

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Anonymous wrote:No. I-Ready probably asks some questions on subject matter that has not been taught yet at the beginning of the year so lots of kids miss those questions early on and answer them correctly later. But that is not really self-serving. It is certainly possible to test above grade level at the start of the year on I-Ready and then just stagnate.

That’s what happened with both my kids. Worked with them over the summer. They were above grade level coming in this year. Then slowly slid backwards. Thanks SWS!

SWS has among the best math PARCC scores on the Hill excluding Brent which is a higher SES population. Don't think you're getting much better anywhere else in DCPS. Everything taught was appropriate grade level and they got a math worksheet for homework every week which had the same kinds of grade appropriate questions as Khan academy, etc.

You are certainly going to get better at JKLMM schools. The math worksheets are a joke. They’re maybe 8 problems for the entire week. I’m not a big advocate for more homework, but the math instruction is weak.

[bActually better or just find a higher percentage of very high SES kids with type A parents who freak out about test scores and immediately/automatically ensure their kid has tutoring on top of 7 extracurriculars? SWS is a bit different in that SES may be lower across ALL ethnicities.[/b] It's a city wide school so many people are there because they cannot afford to live in a school district with better performing scores. Take the median SES at SWS even among the caucasian ethnicity and I promise you, it's going to be lower than Maury.

However, DCUM talks like 100% of parents could have chosen Brent or JKLMM. Do you understand the wealth bubble you live in to make that type of claim?

You’re asserting that there are LMC or poor white kids at SWS? Seriously? That is laughable.

PARCC scores are broken out by race. Compare the SWS UMC white kid scores to the NW or Brent UMC white kid scores. And yes, they are UMC by any metric.

Yes, I'm asserting there are more regular MC/LMC white folks at SWS who can't afford to live in bounds for something more desirable and lottery in. I'd also assert that people who live in bounds for Brent are over the top rich, not just UMC. If you are affording a $1M+ home, you are rich. Not everyone lives in your (apparently rich?) bubble? Not everyone has choices the way you think they do.

I actually have kids at SWS and I can’t think of a single white family that would qualify as LMC. They don’t exist.