Anonymous
Post 03/24/2021 19:21     Subject: Re:Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teachers working and teachers being effective are two different things.

I believe some teachers are working at least as hard as they would normally. The delivery is not successful to a large degree, particularly for ES kids.

Stop lying that DL is effective education.


+1
Matches my post at 18:23.

ES Teacher


And I appreciate you! I have several ES teacher friends and family members who say the same.


My daughter's teacher said the same at our conference this year. My DD is doing fine, but the teacher said she can't hold the attention of about 1/3 of kids in the online format. Some of them are left home alone or in the care of siblings (3rd grade). She's happy to be back in person.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2021 19:19     Subject: Re:Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teachers working and teachers being effective are two different things.

I believe some teachers are working at least as hard as they would normally. The delivery is not successful to a large degree, particularly for ES kids.

Stop lying that DL is effective education.


+1
Matches my post at 18:23.

ES Teacher


And I appreciate you! I have several ES teacher friends and family members who say the same.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2021 19:09     Subject: Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.


Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.


Exactly. If you are not a multimillionaire with a full time household staff and SAHW, don’t have kids or abort them. Teachers need higher pay and less work, and they won’t get either from you plebes multiplying.


HHAHAHAHA
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2021 19:06     Subject: Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

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Anonymous wrote:Construction is different as you are in a persons home or building and separated. Much easier to keep safe than with 30+ students to a room. You sound entitled. Hire a nanny.


Construction workers are not in people’s homes, and they can’t pay for nannies.

If you can’t do, teach.


Construction workers work in large spaces with adults, often outside. Teachers work in enclosed petri dishes with kids who won't cooperate and admin who won't allow them to be made to cooperate. Google "prolonged indoor exposure + COVID" and maybe then you'll understand the difference between construction work and teaching in a pandemic. Thanks ever so.

If you went to school 20-30 years ago, it doesn't mean you know jack about the profession of teaching, including that idiotic backwards bumper sticker slogan you just dropped. How embarrassing for you.


Princess, that is not what a construction site is like at all. Workers put on hardhats and masks that fall off while they work in close contact. The work they do is not distanced. It's clear that you are too sheltered to have ever seen a construction site. How embarrassing for you.


Oh, so you're a sexist, too. What a shocker.

Well, sweetie-kins, teachers can work remotely and construction workers cannot. Their employers set the terms of their employment, not mobs of torchwaving parents.

If you don't like it, feel free to sign up to become a teacher. Problem solved!


Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.


Haha seriously.


Well, they can do, have been doing and are doing, so no, we won't drop it, but thanks for the thought.


DW and I are both ES teachers. We have been working remotely, and working hard at it, but I can’t say we have been very effective.


Thank you for your candor! So refreshing.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2021 19:05     Subject: Re:Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

Anonymous wrote:Teachers working and teachers being effective are two different things.

I believe some teachers are working at least as hard as they would normally. The delivery is not successful to a large degree, particularly for ES kids.

Stop lying that DL is effective education.


+1
Matches my post at 18:23.

ES Teacher
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2021 19:01     Subject: Re:Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

Teachers working and teachers being effective are two different things.

I believe some teachers are working at least as hard as they would normally. The delivery is not successful to a large degree, particularly for ES kids.

Stop lying that DL is effective education.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2021 18:57     Subject: Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.


Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.


Lol by no ones’ definition in reality is needing 20-25 other people to help you do your job if you do it remotely “successfully teleworking.”

Also, childcare is actually a function of school.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2021 18:38     Subject: Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.


Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.


Exactly. If you are not a multimillionaire with a full time household staff and SAHW, don’t have kids or abort them. Teachers need higher pay and less work, and they won’t get either from you plebes multiplying.


Ya'll are crazy!! Pandemic got your pubes in knots huh.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2021 18:23     Subject: Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Construction is different as you are in a persons home or building and separated. Much easier to keep safe than with 30+ students to a room. You sound entitled. Hire a nanny.


Construction workers are not in people’s homes, and they can’t pay for nannies.

If you can’t do, teach.


Construction workers work in large spaces with adults, often outside. Teachers work in enclosed petri dishes with kids who won't cooperate and admin who won't allow them to be made to cooperate. Google "prolonged indoor exposure + COVID" and maybe then you'll understand the difference between construction work and teaching in a pandemic. Thanks ever so.

If you went to school 20-30 years ago, it doesn't mean you know jack about the profession of teaching, including that idiotic backwards bumper sticker slogan you just dropped. How embarrassing for you.


Princess, that is not what a construction site is like at all. Workers put on hardhats and masks that fall off while they work in close contact. The work they do is not distanced. It's clear that you are too sheltered to have ever seen a construction site. How embarrassing for you.


Oh, so you're a sexist, too. What a shocker.

Well, sweetie-kins, teachers can work remotely and construction workers cannot. Their employers set the terms of their employment, not mobs of torchwaving parents.

If you don't like it, feel free to sign up to become a teacher. Problem solved!


Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.


Haha seriously.


Well, they can do, have been doing and are doing, so no, we won't drop it, but thanks for the thought.


DW and I are both ES teachers. We have been working remotely, and working hard at it, but I can’t say we have been very effective.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2021 18:09     Subject: Re:Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

Anonymous wrote:Homeschooling rose from 5% last spring to 11% last fall nationally. That's a little over 1 in 10 students choosing homeschooling over remote learning or DL through a public or private school. Nationally, there won't be a need for as many teachers to return to the classroom. Public schools reopening might convince a fraction of these families to leave homeschooling, but not all or even most. There are enough teachers who can arrange desks in most public schools to reopen for the students who will return now. My public in MA reopened in September. It went fine and still is going fine.

Schools have been underfunded and overcrowded for a long time. Hopefully those kids don’t return next year.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2021 18:00     Subject: Re:Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

Homeschooling rose from 5% last spring to 11% last fall nationally. That's a little over 1 in 10 students choosing homeschooling over remote learning or DL through a public or private school. Nationally, there won't be a need for as many teachers to return to the classroom. Public schools reopening might convince a fraction of these families to leave homeschooling, but not all or even most. There are enough teachers who can arrange desks in most public schools to reopen for the students who will return now. My public in MA reopened in September. It went fine and still is going fine.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2021 17:17     Subject: Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Construction is different as you are in a persons home or building and separated. Much easier to keep safe than with 30+ students to a room. You sound entitled. Hire a nanny.


Construction workers are not in people’s homes, and they can’t pay for nannies.

If you can’t do, teach.


Construction workers work in large spaces with adults, often outside. Teachers work in enclosed petri dishes with kids who won't cooperate and admin who won't allow them to be made to cooperate. Google "prolonged indoor exposure + COVID" and maybe then you'll understand the difference between construction work and teaching in a pandemic. Thanks ever so.

If you went to school 20-30 years ago, it doesn't mean you know jack about the profession of teaching, including that idiotic backwards bumper sticker slogan you just dropped. How embarrassing for you.


Princess, that is not what a construction site is like at all. Workers put on hardhats and masks that fall off while they work in close contact. The work they do is not distanced. It's clear that you are too sheltered to have ever seen a construction site. How embarrassing for you.


Oh, so you're a sexist, too. What a shocker.

Well, sweetie-kins, teachers can work remotely and construction workers cannot. Their employers set the terms of their employment, not mobs of torchwaving parents.

If you don't like it, feel free to sign up to become a teacher. Problem solved!


Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.


Haha seriously.


Well, they can do, have been doing and are doing, so no, we won't drop it, but thanks for the thought.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2021 17:15     Subject: Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.


Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.


Exactly. If you are not a multimillionaire with a full time household staff and SAHW, don’t have kids or abort them. Teachers need higher pay and less work, and they won’t get either from you plebes multiplying.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2021 16:42     Subject: Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.


Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2021 15:58     Subject: Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Construction is different as you are in a persons home or building and separated. Much easier to keep safe than with 30+ students to a room. You sound entitled. Hire a nanny.


Construction workers are not in people’s homes, and they can’t pay for nannies.

If you can’t do, teach.


Construction workers work in large spaces with adults, often outside. Teachers work in enclosed petri dishes with kids who won't cooperate and admin who won't allow them to be made to cooperate. Google "prolonged indoor exposure + COVID" and maybe then you'll understand the difference between construction work and teaching in a pandemic. Thanks ever so.

If you went to school 20-30 years ago, it doesn't mean you know jack about the profession of teaching, including that idiotic backwards bumper sticker slogan you just dropped. How embarrassing for you.


Princess, that is not what a construction site is like at all. Workers put on hardhats and masks that fall off while they work in close contact. The work they do is not distanced. It's clear that you are too sheltered to have ever seen a construction site. How embarrassing for you.


Oh, so you're a sexist, too. What a shocker.

Well, sweetie-kins, teachers can work remotely and construction workers cannot. Their employers set the terms of their employment, not mobs of torchwaving parents.

If you don't like it, feel free to sign up to become a teacher. Problem solved!


Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.


Haha seriously.


If 60% of MS students are now failing math, MS teachers cannot do it remotely either. Stop the charade.