Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 17:12     Subject: Diversity, equity, inclusion but not for Jews?
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Anonymous wrote:If my name is David Horowitz, you’d have to be an idiot to not know I’m Jewish. What’s this BS with the supposed ease of fitting in?


No other minority can just change their name (although many do) and live on as a white person if they so choose.
Is this so hard to understand?


But the gig is up if they go to shul. Don’t think the Tree of Life shooter cared about their names.

Also, I’m pretty sure you’d know Woody Allen is Jewish, no? We do have a look — at least many of us do.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 17:07     Subject: Diversity, equity, inclusion but not for Jews?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If my name is David Horowitz, you’d have to be an idiot to not know I’m Jewish. What’s this BS with the supposed ease of fitting in?


No other minority can just change their name (although many do) and live on as a white person if they so choose.
Is this so hard to understand?


Is Kirk Douglas Jewish
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 16:48     Subject: Diversity, equity, inclusion but not for Jews?
Anonymous wrote:If my name is David Horowitz, you’d have to be an idiot to not know I’m Jewish. What’s this BS with the supposed ease of fitting in?


No other minority can just change their name (although many do) and live on as a white person if they so choose.
Is this so hard to understand?
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 16:46     Subject: Diversity, equity, inclusion but not for Jews?


Wow. This is the problem. Not all groups are injured in the same way and if you’re angry that BLM has dominated the conversation you’re part of the problem. They’ve got police kneeling on their necks. But what about me, rt? Just gross


Only one group matters. We know.


And you wonder why there's so much lack of unity between races and ethnic groups? This right here. If you think that Jewish Americans occupy the same space in society and marginalization as African Americans in this country, you have been blinded by your white privilege.

When were black people shoved into ovens and gassed? And you cutely limited your tragedy Olympics to “this country,” but no one has suffered more than Jews, and many Jews here were descended from Holocaust survivors. And the way they overcame it all and succeeded through education, hard work and achievement is pretty amazing.


DP: Either you’re trolling, or you’re blithely oblivious to the histories of Native Americans and Black Americans in the US. Maybe do a search for pictures of white people having picnics while Blacks were lynched. Then maybe note how education and hard work are rewarded far far less in Black communities compared to similar and even far less attainments for whites. You’re certainly right about the accomplishments of Jewish Americans being “pretty amazing “. What your leaving out is even a modicum of attention and thought regarding factors that have supported those achievements.

In any event:

tldr: I call TROLL.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 16:41     Subject: Diversity, equity, inclusion but not for Jews?
Anonymous wrote:OP you should really just put your phone down and get some fresh air. You’re doing your cause no favors.


Yep
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 16:41     Subject: Diversity, equity, inclusion but not for Jews?
Anonymous wrote:If my name is David Horowitz, you’d have to be an idiot to not know I’m Jewish. What’s this BS with the supposed ease of fitting in?


Are you going around saying your name to every random person you meet on the street? Even then, most people don’t automatically assume you are Jewish. Especially if your complexion is white. I know plenty of people named David and they range in every color.
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Post 03/20/2021 16:38     Subject: Diversity, equity, inclusion but not for Jews?
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Anonymous wrote:The point isn’t about who has it worse nor is it to take away the very real anti-Asian and broader racist activities happening. It’s highlighting that despite the fact that Antisemitism makes up, per capita, a large percentage of hat crimes and that folks in Charlottesville and at the Capitol were spewing direct antisemitism rhetoric (“6 million wasn’t enough”) folks think that because Jews appear “better off,” antisemitism isn’t worthy of discussion. That’s the problem.


Yep! And this thread only proves the point.


This thread proves that hijacking the discussion of the slaughter of Asian women to say “what about me?” is in poor taste.


Tell us when it’s ok to fight anti-semitism.

Also, where was the discussion after the Tree of Life shooting?


It’s always ok to fight anti-semitism. But maybe, just maybe you can wait for the families to bury their dead and mourn their loss. Hell, maybe even wait an actual week.


The point is, there’s never time for us.

There’s always a reason. If I wait a week and ask again, you’ll have another excuse.


Then try it and let’s see. In the meantime, Asian hate crimes are on the rise and a horrific shooting in Atlanta took place this week. Maybe ask why this had to happen.


Anti-Semitic hate crimes have been going up for the past 4 years. We’ve been talking about it. You haven’t been listening.


So basically, forget the Asian community and the Atlanta shooting. Anti Semitic crimes need to be discussed right now. Asian community can mourn later. Now is the time to talk about Amit semitism.


Wow you really don’t get it.

At least you’re worrying about Asians now. For a long time, they were a model minority you didn’t give a shit about.

So at least we’ve made that progress.

+1. For the past year, the SJWs wouldn’t let us care about anyone but black people. Now, they’ve expanded that to include Asians.


Wow. This is the problem. Not all groups are injured in the same way and if you’re angry that BLM has dominated the conversation you’re part of the problem. They’ve got police kneeling on their necks. But what about me, rt? Just gross


Only one group matters. We know.


And you wonder why there's so much lack of unity between races and ethnic groups? This right here. If you think that Jewish Americans occupy the same space in society and marginalization as African Americans in this country, you have been blinded by your white privilege.

When were black people shoved into ovens and gassed? And you cutely limited your tragedy Olympics to “this country,” but no one has suffered more than Jews, and many Jews here were descended from Holocaust survivors. And the way they overcame it all and succeeded through education, hard work and achievement is pretty amazing.


Hold up now. Black slaves were put on ships to vomit on each other, thrown overboard to drown, beat into submission, whipped in public, families sold in public at auction, removed from their families even when they were suppose to be free, had to carry papers, hung from trees, made to fight each other like pit bulls, raped, forced to carry to children that were the product of rape, put in hot boxes as punishment, not able to bathe while they worked in the fields, hosed, gunned down, shot on sight, etc. The list goes on and on. Also keeping in mind that 14 year old Emmet Till was the 40s, Ruby Bridges was the 60s, MLK was the late 60s.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 15:57     Subject: Diversity, equity, inclusion but not for Jews?
Anonymous wrote:OP you should really just put your phone down and get some fresh air. You’re doing your cause no favors.


You sound so derisive. “Your cause,” as though you have nothing to do with it and no responsibility.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 15:54     Subject: Diversity, equity, inclusion but not for Jews?
OP you should really just put your phone down and get some fresh air. You’re doing your cause no favors.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 15:44     Subject: Diversity, equity, inclusion but not for Jews?
Let’s not forget that the U.S. was fairly complicit in the Holocaust given its refusal to intervene despite intelligence about what was happening until the U.S. got dragged in by Japan and turning away Jewish refugees who were almost certainly sent to their deaths. Antisemitism was and is not just a European issue.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 15:41     Subject: Diversity, equity, inclusion but not for Jews?
Ancestors? It was in 1945.
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Post 03/20/2021 15:41     Subject: Diversity, equity, inclusion but not for Jews?
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Anonymous wrote:The point isn’t about who has it worse nor is it to take away the very real anti-Asian and broader racist activities happening. It’s highlighting that despite the fact that Antisemitism makes up, per capita, a large percentage of hat crimes and that folks in Charlottesville and at the Capitol were spewing direct antisemitism rhetoric (“6 million wasn’t enough”) folks think that because Jews appear “better off,” antisemitism isn’t worthy of discussion. That’s the problem.


Yep! And this thread only proves the point.


This thread proves that hijacking the discussion of the slaughter of Asian women to say “what about me?” is in poor taste.


Tell us when it’s ok to fight anti-semitism.

Also, where was the discussion after the Tree of Life shooting?


It’s always ok to fight anti-semitism. But maybe, just maybe you can wait for the families to bury their dead and mourn their loss. Hell, maybe even wait an actual week.


The point is, there’s never time for us.

There’s always a reason. If I wait a week and ask again, you’ll have another excuse.


Then try it and let’s see. In the meantime, Asian hate crimes are on the rise and a horrific shooting in Atlanta took place this week. Maybe ask why this had to happen.


Anti-Semitic hate crimes have been going up for the past 4 years. We’ve been talking about it. You haven’t been listening.


So basically, forget the Asian community and the Atlanta shooting. Anti Semitic crimes need to be discussed right now. Asian community can mourn later. Now is the time to talk about Amit semitism.


Wow you really don’t get it.

At least you’re worrying about Asians now. For a long time, they were a model minority you didn’t give a shit about.

So at least we’ve made that progress.

+1. For the past year, the SJWs wouldn’t let us care about anyone but black people. Now, they’ve expanded that to include Asians.


Wow. This is the problem. Not all groups are injured in the same way and if you’re angry that BLM has dominated the conversation you’re part of the problem. They’ve got police kneeling on their necks. But what about me, rt? Just gross


Only one group matters. We know.


And you wonder why there's so much lack of unity between races and ethnic groups? This right here. If you think that Jewish Americans occupy the same space in society and marginalization as African Americans in this country, you have been blinded by your white privilege.

When were black people shoved into ovens and gassed? And you cutely limited your tragedy Olympics to “this country,” but no one has suffered more than Jews, and many Jews here were descended from Holocaust survivors. And the way they overcame it all and succeeded through education, hard work and achievement is pretty amazing.


Maybe time to give ADOS reparations the way my daughter’s Jewish refugee ancestors were given a financial boost.


Are you arguing that because of the payouts some Jews got, we’re fine now?
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Post 03/20/2021 15:37     Subject: Diversity, equity, inclusion but not for Jews?
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Yep! And this thread only proves the point.


This thread proves that hijacking the discussion of the slaughter of Asian women to say “what about me?” is in poor taste.


Tell us when it’s ok to fight anti-semitism.

Also, where was the discussion after the Tree of Life shooting?


It’s always ok to fight anti-semitism. But maybe, just maybe you can wait for the families to bury their dead and mourn their loss. Hell, maybe even wait an actual week.


The point is, there’s never time for us.

There’s always a reason. If I wait a week and ask again, you’ll have another excuse.


Then try it and let’s see. In the meantime, Asian hate crimes are on the rise and a horrific shooting in Atlanta took place this week. Maybe ask why this had to happen.


Anti-Semitic hate crimes have been going up for the past 4 years. We’ve been talking about it. You haven’t been listening.


So basically, forget the Asian community and the Atlanta shooting. Anti Semitic crimes need to be discussed right now. Asian community can mourn later. Now is the time to talk about Amit semitism.


Wow you really don’t get it.

At least you’re worrying about Asians now. For a long time, they were a model minority you didn’t give a shit about.

So at least we’ve made that progress.

+1. For the past year, the SJWs wouldn’t let us care about anyone but black people. Now, they’ve expanded that to include Asians.


Wow. This is the problem. Not all groups are injured in the same way and if you’re angry that BLM has dominated the conversation you’re part of the problem. They’ve got police kneeling on their necks. But what about me, rt? Just gross


Only one group matters. We know.


And you wonder why there's so much lack of unity between races and ethnic groups? This right here. If you think that Jewish Americans occupy the same space in society and marginalization as African Americans in this country, you have been blinded by your white privilege.

When were black people shoved into ovens and gassed? And you cutely limited your tragedy Olympics to “this country,” but no one has suffered more than Jews, and many Jews here were descended from Holocaust survivors. And the way they overcame it all and succeeded through education, hard work and achievement is pretty amazing.


Maybe time to give ADOS reparations the way my daughter’s Jewish refugee ancestors were given a financial boost.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 15:37     Subject: Diversity, equity, inclusion but not for Jews?
If my name is David Horowitz, you’d have to be an idiot to not know I’m Jewish. What’s this BS with the supposed ease of fitting in?
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 15:30     Subject: Re:Diversity, equity, inclusion but not for Jews?
Anonymous wrote:Not Jewish but the sentiment I always got is that Jewish people 'blend' into the greater white demographic. Unless its a synagogue attacked you don't hear about people being discriminated against in hiring practices or home buying or on the streets because they're Jewish. No one knows you're Jewish.


I demur from your point.

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/dna-links-prove-jews-are-a-race-says-genetics-expert-1.5220113
Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People
Harry Ostrer, MD Professor of Medical Genetics and Medicine at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine (when Legacy was written)

Then there are the Hassidim and a serving IDF soldier cavorting/rapping respectively to the Youtube video, I'm Not White I'm Jewish.

Across thousands of years Jews have survived by / not / assimilating, by voluntarily remaining separate.

If you're speaking of the color, it's white. If you're speaking of the race, it's White.